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Post by Buckeye Dale on Jun 23, 2016 7:55:11 GMT -5
72 Anderson, Richard...................... 1964-65 Brown, Henry...................................1987 Campanella, Joseph A.....................1950 Carter, Chris......................2011-12-13-14 Conlin, Ray.......................................1984 Downing, T.J.............................. 2002-06 Fazio, Charles A......................... 1945-48 Howard, Fritz....................................1941 Hutchison, Charles..................... 1967-69 Jabbusch, Robert O... C.......................1942 Jentes, Charles A.............................1960 Kotterman, Larry........................ 1985-86 Larimore, Dexter..............2007-08-09-10 Lukens, Joseph... C....................... 1979-82 Machinsky, Mike..............................1983 Martin, John C........................... 1956-57 Matz, James F..................................1958 Mayes, Rufus L................................1966 McElheny, Norman E........................1944 Morehead, Lee.................................1962 Mountz, Gregory L............................1971 Newlin, John M......................... 1938-39 Pargo, Corey.....................................1990 Perez, Marcus............................ 1996-00 Schumacher, James W............... 1952-53 Schumacher, Kurt....................... 1972-74 Sika, Scott............................. 2008-09-10 Stungis, John J................................1943 Sullivan, Mark............................ 1975-78 Sumner, Jamie........................... 1994-95 Wilkinson, Dan........................... 1992-93 Dan "Big Daddy" Wilkinson, All America selection in 1993. Joe Lukens, All Big Ten selection 1980, 81, & 82 and Captain in 82. Kurt Schumacher, All Big Ten selection 1973 & 74. Also, T.J. Downing was selected All Big Ten in 2006, and Charles Hutchinson in 1969. I'd also add Robert Jabbusch, who excelled at Ohio State, went to war in General George S. Patton, Jr's Third Army, and came back to Columbus and was selected Captain. From his obituary (August 2008) - Robert Jabbusch, who played on Ohio State’s 1942 national championship team for legendary coach Paul Brown, has died at the age of 84. A 1973 inductee to the Elyria Hall of Fame, Jabbusch succumbed from heart disease and pancreatic cancer on Friday in San Diego. He is the second Elyria Hall of Fame football player from the same era to die this summer. Ed Czak, who was enshrined in 1993, died on June 11 at the age of 89 in Dearborn, Mich. “He was a tremendous man,” said Lynn Vandertie, 57, of San Diego, Jabbusch’s middle daughter. “But the pancreatic cancer did a number on him. He came from nothing and made a lot of himself.” The native Elyrian graduated from Elyria High in 1941. While playing for the Buckeyes, he earned All-America honors in 1944 and was named captain of the team in 1947. Also, the offensive lineman and engineering student was awarded the Big Ten Medal of Honor, as the senior demonstrating the greatest proficiency in scholarship and athletics for the 1947-48 school year. It was in that year that Brown called Jabbusch the best lineman in the country. Jabbusch also played in the 1944 College All-Star Game against the NFL champion Chicago Bears. His college career was interrupted by World War II, in which he served in the Third Army under General George S. Patton and earned a Bronze Star. He held a lifetime membership in Elyria VFW Post 1079. “I’m going to miss my old football buddy,” said John Sheldon of Amherst, who played at Elyria with Jabbusch in the 1940 season. “He played one guard and I played the other in the old single-wing.” Sheldon had a special tie with Jabbusch — he married his sister. Jabbusch was drafted by the NFL’s New York Giants while still in the Army, but elected to continue his education on his return to the United States. While at OSU, he earned the Western Conference Athletic and Scholarship Award, the Chic Harley Scholarship and was made a charter member of Pi Tau Sigma, a mechanical engineering honor society. “The thing he was most proud of was winning the scholarships,” said Vandertie. “That Western Conference award usually went to golfers or tennis players, not football players.” Jabbusch was born in Elyria on Sept. 21, 1923. He married Marian Roberts, who would be his wife of 62 years, on Sept. 30, 1945. Jabbusch worked for 32 years at the FMC Corporation. While with FMC, he earned a masters degree in business as well as several patents for food packing methods. During his business career, he resided in Hoopeston, Ill., Green Bay, Wis., Chicago and Madera, Calif. His job entailed world-wide travel to build and remodel manufacturing facilities. “He was smart as a whip,” said Sheldon, an assistant coach from 1949-79 for Elyria High. “He was an outstanding engineer. I remember he was a caring man, despite the fact he was so high up in business. A very caring individual.” What Jabbusch called in a Chronicle-Telegram article from 2004 “a family treasure,” is a ring commemorating Ohio State’s 1942 national championship. Jabbusch described it as made of gold “with a big, gaudy No. 1 and eight diamonds.” The circumstances were unique because the ’42 team got their rings the same year the 2002 OSU team got theirs. In fact, the rings Jabbusch and his teammates received were replicas of those the 2002 team earned, according to the C-T story. “The things Paul Brown taught him stayed with him the rest of his life,” said Vandertie. “He was the kind of guy who did things but never talked about them. We didn’t find out until years later what he had done in the Army. But that’s the kind of guy he was.” He finally settled in the San Diego area, where he died.
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Jun 23, 2016 18:42:39 GMT -5
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Jun 24, 2016 12:36:46 GMT -5
Well, JUNK... 71Bates, John................................ 1997-98 Bearss, James..................................1961 Bunnell, David..................................1959 Burrows, Scott...........................1979, 81 Cato, Byron... C.............................. 1975-78 Cusick, Peter... C........................... 1972-74 Fiers, Alan........................................1960 Himes, Richard D....................... 1966-67 Huddleston, Mike....................... 1990-91 Jennings, Jack W....................... 1947-49 Kasunic, Gerald S....................... 1963-64 Krisher, Gerald Glenn.......................1954 Linsley, Corey... C.......................... 2009-13 Logan, Richard L......................... 1950-51 Madro, Joseph........................... 1937-39 Maggs, Robert........................... 1983-86 Medovich, Fred................................1944 Myers, Robert C...............................1952 Olivea, Shane............................. 2001-03 Perry, Charles...................................1955 Pulfer, Ben.................................. 1997-99 Rader, Ted.........................................1953 Rehring, Steve............................ 2004-08 Schafrath, Richard P... C................ 1957-58 Sheets, Steve............................. 1992-94 Troha, Richard J...............................1969 Trout, Kyle........................................2014 Pete Cusick, All Big Ten in1973; All America, All Big Ten, and Team Captain in 1974. Pete Cusick, a three-year starter for the Ohio State football team from 1972-74, was a First Team All-American and team captain as a defensive tackle in 1974. A First Team All-Big Ten selection in 1973 and 1974, Cusick helped lead the Buckeyes to three-consecutive Big Ten championships and three-consecutive Rose Bowl appearances. Ohio State went 29-4-1 in Cusick’s three seasons as a starter and, incredibly, its defense allowed only 64 points in the 1973 campaign. Cusick recorded 242 career tackles, including 22 tackles-for-loss in his three seasons. He played in the Hula Bowl following his senior season before going on to play a season for the New England Patriots in the National Football League. In 2000, Cusick was selected to the Ohio State football All-Century Team by the Touchdown Club of Columbus. Picture at: grfx.cstv.com/schools/osu/graphics/pdf/m-footbl/1967/1967_guide.pdf, scroll down to page 9...(no easy way to do it, and I've already done it the hard way once) Dick Himes, All Big Ten selection in 1966 and 1967. Very versatile, starting at Offensive & Defensive tackle and Defensive End in three consecutive years. Went on to play 10 years for the Packers. Corey Linsley, All Big Ten and selected as Captain in 2013. Currently playing for the Packers. Bob Maggs, All Big Ten, 1986. Started at O Tackle, moved to center late in 1984 after Kirk Lowdermilk broke his leg. Attachments:
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Post by mscott59 on Jun 24, 2016 13:03:19 GMT -5
Well, JUNK... 71Bates, John................................ 1997-98 Bearss, James..................................1961 Bunnell, David..................................1959 Burrows, Scott...........................1979, 81 Cato, Byron... C.............................. 1975-78 Cusick, Peter... C........................... 1972-74 Fiers, Alan........................................1960 Himes, Richard D....................... 1966-67 Huddleston, Mike....................... 1990-91 Jennings, Jack W....................... 1947-49 Kasunic, Gerald S....................... 1963-64 Krisher, Gerald Glenn.......................1954 Linsley, Corey... C.......................... 2009-13 Logan, Richard L......................... 1950-51 Madro, Joseph........................... 1937-39 Maggs, Robert........................... 1983-86 Medovich, Fred................................1944 Myers, Robert C...............................1952 Olivea, Shane............................. 2001-03 Perry, Charles...................................1955 Pulfer, Ben.................................. 1997-99 Rader, Ted.........................................1953 Rehring, Steve............................ 2004-08 Schafrath, Richard P... C................ 1957-58 Sheets, Steve............................. 1992-94 Troha, Richard J...............................1969 Trout, Kyle........................................2014 View AttachmentPete Cusick, All Big Ten in1973; All America, All Big Ten, and Team Captain in 1974. Pete Cusick, a three-year starter for the Ohio State football team from 1972-74, was a First Team All-American and team captain as a defensive tackle in 1974. A First Team All-Big Ten selection in 1973 and 1974, Cusick helped lead the Buckeyes to three-consecutive Big Ten championships and three-consecutive Rose Bowl appearances. Ohio State went 29-4-1 in Cusick’s three seasons as a starter and, incredibly, its defense allowed only 64 points in the 1973 campaign. Cusick recorded 242 career tackles, including 22 tackles-for-loss in his three seasons. He played in the Hula Bowl following his senior season before going on to play a season for the New England Patriots in the National Football League. In 2000, Cusick was selected to the Ohio State football All-Century Team by the Touchdown Club of Columbus. Picture at: grfx.cstv.com/schools/osu/graphics/pdf/m-footbl/1967/1967_guide.pdf, scroll down to page 9...(no easy way to do it, and I've already done it the hard way once) Dick Himes, All Big Ten selection in 1966 and 1967. Very versatile, starting at Offensive & Defensive tackle and Defensive End in three consecutive years. Went on to play 10 years for the Packers. View AttachmentCorey Linsley, All Big Ten and selected as Captain in 2013. Currently playing for the Packers. Bob Maggs, All Big Ten, 1986. Started at O Tackle, moved to center late in 1984 after Kirk Lowdermilk broke his leg. maybe a little minor but i think maggs was all big 10 in both '85 and '86. and dick schafrath was a legend at osu and in the nfl. played both o and d on the '57 title team. drafted in the 1st rd by the browns, blocked for legends jim brown and leroy kelly, won a nfl title, made 6 pro bowls, and a few years ago the plain dealer called him the 8th best player in browns history. how 'bout that? also spent 16 years as an ohio state senator, was infamous for be willing to do just about anything, like canoeing across lake erie (first to ever do it, i believe), running from cleveland stadium to wooster (his hometown, 62 miles away, simply to win a bet), and he wrote an autobiography a decade ago titled 'heart of a mule', which i have in my den library, autographed by said mule. jim brown called him one of the most extraordinary human beings he's ever met. bobby knight said he epitomized what intelligence, toughness and competitiveness are all about. ex-browns wr gary collins says he should be in the hof in canton. i agree. one other point; 50 years after leaving osu for the nfl, he returned to campus and finished his degree.
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Jun 24, 2016 16:42:04 GMT -5
Well, JUNK... 71Bates, John................................ 1997-98 Bearss, James..................................1961 Bunnell, David..................................1959 Burrows, Scott...........................1979, 81 Cato, Byron... C.............................. 1975-78 Cusick, Peter... C........................... 1972-74 Fiers, Alan........................................1960 Himes, Richard D....................... 1966-67 Huddleston, Mike....................... 1990-91 Jennings, Jack W....................... 1947-49 Kasunic, Gerald S....................... 1963-64 Krisher, Gerald Glenn.......................1954 Linsley, Corey... C.......................... 2009-13 Logan, Richard L......................... 1950-51 Madro, Joseph........................... 1937-39 Maggs, Robert........................... 1983-86 Medovich, Fred................................1944 Myers, Robert C...............................1952 Olivea, Shane............................. 2001-03 Perry, Charles...................................1955 Pulfer, Ben.................................. 1997-99 Rader, Ted.........................................1953 Rehring, Steve............................ 2004-08 Schafrath, Richard P... C................ 1957-58 Sheets, Steve............................. 1992-94 Troha, Richard J...............................1969 Trout, Kyle........................................2014 Pete Cusick, All Big Ten in1973; All America, All Big Ten, and Team Captain in 1974. Pete Cusick, a three-year starter for the Ohio State football team from 1972-74, was a First Team All-American and team captain as a defensive tackle in 1974. A First Team All-Big Ten selection in 1973 and 1974, Cusick helped lead the Buckeyes to three-consecutive Big Ten championships and three-consecutive Rose Bowl appearances. Ohio State went 29-4-1 in Cusick’s three seasons as a starter and, incredibly, its defense allowed only 64 points in the 1973 campaign. Cusick recorded 242 career tackles, including 22 tackles-for-loss in his three seasons. He played in the Hula Bowl following his senior season before going on to play a season for the New England Patriots in the National Football League. In 2000, Cusick was selected to the Ohio State football All-Century Team by the Touchdown Club of Columbus. Picture at: grfx.cstv.com/schools/osu/graphics/pdf/m-footbl/1967/1967_guide.pdf, scroll down to page 9...(no easy way to do it, and I've already done it the hard way once) Dick Himes, All Big Ten selection in 1966 and 1967. Very versatile, starting at Offensive & Defensive tackle and Defensive End in three consecutive years. Went on to play 10 years for the Packers. Corey Linsley, All Big Ten and selected as Captain in 2013. Currently playing for the Packers. Bob Maggs, All Big Ten, 1986. Started at O Tackle, moved to center late in 1984 after Kirk Lowdermilk broke his leg. maybe a little minor but i think maggs was all big 10 in both '85 and '86. and dick schafrath was a legend at osu and in the nfl. played both o and d on the '57 title team. drafted in the 1st rd by the browns, blocked for legends jim brown and leroy kelly, won a nfl title, made 6 pro bowls, and a few years ago the plain dealer called him the 8th best player in browns history. how 'bout that? also spent 16 years as an ohio state senator, was infamous for be willing to do just about anything, like canoeing across lake erie (first to ever do it, i believe), running from cleveland stadium to wooster (his hometown, 62 miles away, simply to win a bet), and he wrote an autobiography a decade ago titled 'heart of a mule', which i have in my den library, autographed by said mule. jim brown called him one of the most extraordinary human beings he's ever met. bobby knight said he epitomized what intelligence, toughness and competitiveness are all about. ex-browns wr gary collins says he should be in the hof in canton. i agree. one other point; 50 years after leaving osu for the nfl, he returned to campus and finished his degree. You know, I kept thinking, Dick Schafrath...why do I know that name? I must have read something somewhere over the years...But with no All America or All Big Ten, I was beginning to think I'd been mistaken when I saw him on the Captains list. Add to that, him not being listed on the Legends and Greats list... Thanks for filling in the blanks.
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Jun 24, 2016 19:53:21 GMT -5
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Jun 24, 2016 19:58:24 GMT -5
maybe a little minor but i think maggs was all big 10 in both '85 and '86. and dick schafrath was a legend at osu and in the nfl. played both o and d on the '57 title team. drafted in the 1st rd by the browns, blocked for legends jim brown and leroy kelly, won a nfl title, made 6 pro bowls, and a few years ago the plain dealer called him the 8th best player in browns history. how 'bout that? also spent 16 years as an ohio state senator, was infamous for be willing to do just about anything, like canoeing across lake erie (first to ever do it, i believe), running from cleveland stadium to wooster (his hometown, 62 miles away, simply to win a bet), and he wrote an autobiography a decade ago titled 'heart of a mule', which i have in my den library, autographed by said mule. jim brown called him one of the most extraordinary human beings he's ever met. bobby knight said he epitomized what intelligence, toughness and competitiveness are all about. ex-browns wr gary collins says he should be in the hof in canton. i agree. one other point; 50 years after leaving osu for the nfl, he returned to campus and finished his degree. You know, I kept thinking, Dick Schafrath...why do I know that name? I must have read something somewhere over the years...But with no All America or All Big Ten, I was beginning to think I'd been mistaken when I saw him on the Captains list. Add to that, him not being listed on the Legends and Greats list... Thanks for filling in the blanks. Let me add this feature for Dick Schafrath:
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Post by bamorin on Jun 25, 2016 6:47:18 GMT -5
Pete Cusick, All Big Ten in1973; All America, All Big Ten, and Team Captain in 1974. Pete Cusick, a three-year starter for the Ohio State football team from 1972-74, was a First Team All-American and team captain as a defensive tackle in 1974. A First Team All-Big Ten selection in 1973 and 1974, Cusick helped lead the Buckeyes to three-consecutive Big Ten championships and three-consecutive Rose Bowl appearances. Ohio State went 29-4-1 in Cusick’s three seasons as a starter and, incredibly, its defense allowed only 64 points in the 1973 campaign. Cusick recorded 242 career tackles, including 22 tackles-for-loss in his three seasons. He played in the Hula Bowl following his senior season before going on to play a season for the New England Patriots in the National Football League. In 2000, Cusick was selected to the Ohio State football All-Century Team by the Touchdown Club of Columbus. 21 of those 64 points came in the Rose Bowl..............or 43 divided by 10 = 4.3 Minnesota 56-7 TCU 37-3 Wash St 27-3 Wisconsin 24-0 Indiana 37-7 Northwestern 60-0 Illinois 30-0 MSU 35-0 Iowa 55-13 meatchicken 10-10 ( to me, as bad as the '69 24-12 game) USC (R/B) 42-21 413-64
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Jun 25, 2016 12:49:50 GMT -5
Pete Cusick, All Big Ten in1973; All America, All Big Ten, and Team Captain in 1974. Pete Cusick, a three-year starter for the Ohio State football team from 1972-74, was a First Team All-American and team captain as a defensive tackle in 1974. A First Team All-Big Ten selection in 1973 and 1974, Cusick helped lead the Buckeyes to three-consecutive Big Ten championships and three-consecutive Rose Bowl appearances. Ohio State went 29-4-1 in Cusick’s three seasons as a starter and, incredibly, its defense allowed only 64 points in the 1973 campaign. Cusick recorded 242 career tackles, including 22 tackles-for-loss in his three seasons. He played in the Hula Bowl following his senior season before going on to play a season for the New England Patriots in the National Football League. In 2000, Cusick was selected to the Ohio State football All-Century Team by the Touchdown Club of Columbus. 21 of those 64 points came in the Rose Bowl..............or 43 divided by 10 = 4.3 Minnesota 56-7 TCU 37-3 Wash St 27-3 Wisconsin 24-0 Indiana 37-7 Northwestern 60-0 Illinois 30-0 MSU 35-0 Iowa 55-13 meatchicken 10-10 ( to me, as bad as the '69 24-12 game) USC (R/B) 42-21 413-64 No coincidence where those games were played...
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Jun 25, 2016 15:15:47 GMT -5
Here we go again... 70 Bonhaus, Matt... C........................ 1991-95 Browning, Bryant... C..........2006-08-09-10 Collins, Mike....................................1997 Cornsweet, Harold..................... 1939-40 Engle, Floyd......................................1944 Foley, David... C............................. 1966-68 France, Steve...................................1989 Green, Mark............................... 1964-65 Hasenohrl, George... C ................ 1970-72 Hershberger, Peter J........................1941 Hilinski, Richard......................... 1953-54 Hodick, Mike....................................1938 Hullinger, Dennis..............................1963 Koegel, Stephen......................... 1974-75 Kuhnheim, Scott......................... 1998-02 Laskoski, Richard D..........................1961 Leshner, Robert................................1958 Maupin, Brandon....................... 2003-04 Michael, Richard J...........................1959 ***Middleton, Richard R................. 1971-73 *** Miller, William G..............................1943 Miller, William M....................... 1948-50 Moldea, Emil....................................1947 Nagy, Alex........................................1957 Pawlikowski, William......................1997 Roberts, William... C..................... 1980-83 Robinson, Joseph....................... 1976-78 Schiller, Richard T.............................1952 Schnittker, Max A....................... 1945-46 Simpson, Steve................................1979 Trummer, Tim....................................2011 White, John T...................................1942 Willard, Robert.................................1973 Dave Foley, AA selection in 1968. Selected as Captain (to provide some senior leadership for the Super Sophs). He was a three-year starter for Woody, moving from RT to LT for his senior year, & was elected to the Ohio State Varsity O Hall of Fame in 1984. He played for the Jets & Bills in the NFL, and was selected for the Pro Bowl in 1973. George Hasenhorl, All Big Ten in 1971 & 72 and selected as Captain in 72. Brief career in the NFL cut short by injury. Joe Robinson, All Big Ten in 1978. Two-year starter after dividing his time in '76 between OT & TE. Others of note; Dick Hilinski was All Big Ten in 1954, and there are other names we may remember that bring back pleasant (& not so) memories of our time as fans. *** I commented last week about discrepancies on the Official Site...Richard Middleton (Rick) is one of those. Old timers may remember his name as being All Big Ten in the early 70s, but according to Roster available on that same site, he never wore #70. Some pix of former players that I believe to be worthy of recognition representing their number are not readily available on line. I've pulled a couple out of Jack Park's Football Encyclopedia and a couple from the team guide from the official site (two of those today). If interested, click on the pic, it should expand to be able to read more of the player, if you're interested.
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Post by kaz on Jun 25, 2016 15:26:52 GMT -5
21 of those 64 points came in the Rose Bowl..............or 43 divided by 10 = 4.3 Minnesota 56-7 TCU 37-3 Wash St 27-3 Wisconsin 24-0 Indiana 37-7 Northwestern 60-0 Illinois 30-0 MSU 35-0 Iowa 55-13 meatchicken 10-10 ( to me, as bad as the '69 24-12 game) USC (R/B) 42-21 413-64 No coincidence where those games were played... Same place last year's game was played. What's your point?
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Jun 25, 2016 15:36:37 GMT -5
No coincidence where those games were played... Same place last year's game was played. What's your point? Obviously, that Marc doesn't like games on the road...I thought that was pretty obvious. But thanks for visiting and taking an interest...help yourself to a mint...
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Post by kaz on Jun 25, 2016 16:01:11 GMT -5
Same place last year's game was played. What's your point? Obviously, that Marc doesn't like games on the road...I thought that was pretty obvious. But thanks for visiting and taking an interest...help yourself to a mint... So Marc obviously didn't like last year's game? Try again. Maybe he just doesn't like not winning. That seems a little more obvious to me... but it's something he'll have to get used to.
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