RESULTS

[beuycek]

Dec 2, 2014 11:45:11 GMT -5 ETGator1 said:

Damn, two bucknuts in first and second place. Gatr, you gotta have a strong finish to get a second place finish for the Gators.

No.

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Dec 2, 2014 13:53:35 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Dec 2, 2014 13:49:44 GMT -5 oldgraylady said:

Wow, I am ahead of Max. I feel like Charlie Gordon when he beats Algernon in the maze race.

unfortunately, charly's advantage over algernon was short-lived...

 

Mark,


    Great God, Almighty...  I haven't been following the Grand Douche competition this year, so I'm astonished to see you at +27.  That's beyond impressive.  Were you using a good on-line handicapping source, or doing this on yer own?

     Also, any explanation for out-performing the field by such an astronomical margin?  That's a few standard deviations above the mean.  Was there a conference or group of teams that tended to beat the point spread in 2014?

      Not entirely surprised to see old Harry bringing up the rear...  

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I think Harry tried awfully hard to finish last.

[oldgraylady]

Dec 2, 2014 13:53:35 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Dec 2, 2014 13:49:44 GMT -5 oldgraylady said:

Wow, I am ahead of Max. I feel like Charlie Gordon when he beats Algernon in the maze race.

unfortunately, charly's advantage over algernon was short-lived...

Sad, sad, sad .

[mscott59]

Dec 2, 2014 14:01:31 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Dec 2, 2014 13:53:35 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

unfortunately, charly's advantage over algernon was short-lived...

 

Mark,


    Great God, Almighty...  I haven't been following the Grand Douche competition this year, so I'm astonished to see you at +27.  That's beyond impressive.  Were you using a good on-line handicapping source, or doing this on yer own?

     Also, any explanation for out-performing the field by such an astronomical margin?  That's a few standard deviations above the mean.  Was there a conference or group of teams that tended to beat the point spread in 2014?

      Not entirely surprised to see old Harry bringing up the rear...  

1. i believe i'm at +32.
2. curious why you ask right off the bat if i'm using some source. that made me laugh, thinking i would pay for a handicapper so i can win a season long pool which pays nothing. since i do some wagering, on a small level, throughout the year (i was up over $1200 at one point; i keep trying to bet sundays and it's killing me. currently $623 on the plus side for the season. which equals out to about $2/hour. lol), i do my homework. i also will learn/follow trends, both from the pros and from things i've seen since i started in the 80s.
3. explanation? combo of looking at more underdogs than favorites (the public loves favorites; that's why going against alabama in every game this year would put you 8-4 ats, for example; the 2 bcs teams from last year? auburn is 4-8 ats, fsu 3-8), and some luck.
4. here's a list of some teams who were really good vs the vegas line this year...

arkansas: 8-3
cincinnati: started 1-4, is now 7-4
colorado st: 7-4
duke: 7-4
ga tech: 8-3
kansas st.: 8-2
la tech: 9-2
marshall: 7-4
miami oh: 7-3-1 (even tho they went 2-10 su)
michigan st.: 7-4
minnesota: 7-4
mississippi: 7-3-1
miss st: 7-4
missouri: 8-3
nebraska: 8-3
nevada: 7-4
oregon: 7-3-1
rice: 8-4
tcu: 8-2
uab: 7-4
utah: 7-4
utep: 8-4
w. mich.: 9-2
texas st.: 8-3
ga. southern: 7-4

the common thread? nearly 100% of the teams who've been great against the spread are teams under the radar from a national perspective. the exceptions this year are oregon, michigan st, and probably the mississippi schools, who a lot of people thought would be improved this year.

[mscott59]

Dec 2, 2014 16:40:13 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Dec 2, 2014 14:01:31 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

 

Mark,


    Great God, Almighty...  I haven't been following the Grand Douche competition this year, so I'm astonished to see you at +27.  That's beyond impressive.  Were you using a good on-line handicapping source, or doing this on yer own?

     Also, any explanation for out-performing the field by such an astronomical margin?  That's a few standard deviations above the mean.  Was there a conference or group of teams that tended to beat the point spread in 2014?

      Not entirely surprised to see old Harry bringing up the rear...  

1. i believe i'm at +32.
2. curious why you ask right off the bat if i'm using some source. that made me laugh, thinking i would pay for a handicapper so i can win a season long pool which pays nothing. since i do some wagering, on a small level, throughout the year (i was up over $1200 at one point; i keep trying to bet sundays and it's killing me. currently $623 on the plus side for the season. which equals out to about $2/hour. lol), i do my homework. i also will learn/follow trends, both from the pros and from things i've seen since i started in the 80s.
3. explanation? combo of looking at more underdogs than favorites (the public loves favorites; that's why going against alabama in every game this year would put you 8-4 ats, for example; the 2 bcs teams from last year? auburn is 4-8 ats, fsu 3-8), and some luck.
4. here's a list of some teams who were really good vs the vegas line this year...

arkansas: 8-3
cincinnati: started 1-4, is now 7-4
colorado st: 7-4
duke: 7-4
ga tech: 8-3
kansas st.: 8-2
la tech: 9-2
marshall: 7-4
miami oh: 7-3-1 (even tho they went 2-10 su)
michigan st.: 7-4
minnesota: 7-4
mississippi: 7-3-1
miss st: 7-4
missouri: 8-3
nebraska: 8-3
nevada: 7-4
oregon: 7-3-1
rice: 8-4
tcu: 8-2
uab: 7-4
utah: 7-4
utep: 8-4
w. mich.: 9-2
texas st.: 8-3
ga. southern: 7-4

the common thread? nearly 100% of the teams who've been great against the spread are teams under the radar from a national perspective. the exceptions this year are oregon, michigan st, and probably the mississippi schools, who a lot of people thought would be improved this year.

hit send too quick. i believe there are 128 schools playing d-1 football. just 25, by my count, are at least 3 games above .500 vs the vegas line so far this year. 45 schools at the moment are 3 games or more above .500 on the scoreboard. there's a reason why las vegas still has a lot of buildings. lol

[bamorin]

Dec 2, 2014 11:45:11 GMT -5 ETGator1 said:

Damn, two bucknuts in first and second place. Gatr, you gotta have a strong finish to get a second place finish for the Gators.

HA!!! ...... something you musta missed.......all the Buckeyes playing are on the + side. The sEC folks really suck at this.

[Lee The Locksmith]

Dec 2, 2014 14:01:31 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Not entirely surprised to see old Harry bringing up the rear...

Wrong again Billy....YOU (the coward no-show) bring up the rear...You have the NERVE (not the balls) to call out Harry as you sit on the porch with the puppies

Dr Fraudmiester = FAIL

[gatr55555]

Dec 2, 2014 11:45:11 GMT -5 ETGator1 said:

Damn, two bucknuts in first and second place. Gatr, you gotta have a strong finish to get a second place finish for the Gators.

I'm pedalin as fast as I can.

[Deleted]

Dec 2, 2014 16:45:46 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Dec 2, 2014 16:40:13 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

1. i believe i'm at +32.
2. curious why you ask right off the bat if i'm using some source. that made me laugh, thinking i would pay for a handicapper so i can win a season long pool which pays nothing. since i do some wagering, on a small level, throughout the year (i was up over $1200 at one point; i keep trying to bet sundays and it's killing me. currently $623 on the plus side for the season. which equals out to about $2/hour. lol), i do my homework. i also will learn/follow trends, both from the pros and from things i've seen since i started in the 80s.
3. explanation? combo of looking at more underdogs than favorites (the public loves favorites; that's why going against alabama in every game this year would put you 8-4 ats, for example; the 2 bcs teams from last year? auburn is 4-8 ats, fsu 3-8), and some luck.
4. here's a list of some teams who were really good vs the vegas line this year...

arkansas: 8-3
cincinnati: started 1-4, is now 7-4
colorado st: 7-4
duke: 7-4
ga tech: 8-3
kansas st.: 8-2
la tech: 9-2
marshall: 7-4
miami oh: 7-3-1 (even tho they went 2-10 su)
michigan st.: 7-4
minnesota: 7-4
mississippi: 7-3-1
miss st: 7-4
missouri: 8-3
nebraska: 8-3
nevada: 7-4
oregon: 7-3-1
rice: 8-4
tcu: 8-2
uab: 7-4
utah: 7-4
utep: 8-4
w. mich.: 9-2
texas st.: 8-3
ga. southern: 7-4

the common thread? nearly 100% of the teams who've been great against the spread are teams under the radar from a national perspective. the exceptions this year are oregon, michigan st, and probably the mississippi schools, who a lot of people thought would be improved this year.

hit send too quick. i believe there are 128 schools playing d-1 football. just 25, by my count, are at least 3 games above .500 vs the vegas line so far this year. 45 schools at the moment are 3 games or more above .500 on the scoreboard. there's a reason why las vegas still has a lot of buildings. lol

That record against the point spread looks like a pretty good index of teams being over- or underrated on the season.  (In comparison, for example, with Stassen's index based on pre- and postseason rankings, etc.)

And, no, I was wondering whether you had found a great FREE source of info for your stellar picks this year.

[Lee The Locksmith]

Dec 2, 2014 18:10:05 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

And, no, I was wondering whether you had found a great FREE source of info for your stellar picks this year.

Wrong again Billy....YOU (the coward no-show) bring up the rear...You have the NERVE (not the balls) to call out Harry as you sit on the porch with the puppies

Dr Fraudmiester = FAIL

[oujour76]

Dec 2, 2014 17:15:03 GMT -5 Lee The Locksmith said:

Dec 2, 2014 14:01:31 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Not entirely surprised to see old Harry bringing up the rear...

Wrong again Billy....YOU (the coward no-show) bring up the rear...You have the NERVE (not the balls) to call out Harry as you sit on the porch with the puppies

Dr Fraudmiester = FAIL

Damn right! EYE approve of this message.

[Coaltrain]

Dec 2, 2014 11:55:06 GMT -5 Lee The Locksmith said:

Dec 2, 2014 9:48:39 GMT -5 @chadgristlethrob said:

I'm at -24!

I'm trying 2 catch up 2U as fast as eye kann pa !!!

I'm shocked!!

[mscott59]

Dec 2, 2014 18:10:05 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Dec 2, 2014 16:45:46 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

hit send too quick. i believe there are 128 schools playing d-1 football. just 25, by my count, are at least 3 games above .500 vs the vegas line so far this year. 45 schools at the moment are 3 games or more above .500 on the scoreboard. there's a reason why las vegas still has a lot of buildings. lol

That record against the point spread looks like a pretty good index of teams being over- or underrated on the season.  (In comparison, for example, with Stassen's index based on pre- and postseason rankings, etc.)

And, no, I was wondering whether you had found a great FREE source of info for your stellar picks this year.

Re overrated I would disagree 100%. Alabama is a good example. Are they overrated? Most experts say they're the best team in the country, yet if you bet $100 on the tide very week this year you'd be down around $480. Just because a team doesn't beat the spread doesn't mean they're overrated.

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billy should GTFO of here. That son-of-a-bitch shouldn't be allowed to bring his stench into the tournament forum.