Cleveland Curse strikes again

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Irving, fractured knee cap. Out 4 months

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Come on, Cleveland. Have a little faith.  Where's the fight?

LeBron can win this thing.

[snap infraction]

Jun 5, 2015 16:31:40 GMT -5 @cwgbuckeyes7ncs said:

Irving, fractured knee cap. Out 4 months

yes, the nba team that was won the nba lottery 3 times in 4 years, including having just a 1% chance last year...is cursed.  that same nba team that had the best player in the world over the last 20 years choose them in free agency over every other basketball team in the world is cursed.  

[mscott59]

Jun 8, 2015 7:44:16 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

Jun 5, 2015 16:31:40 GMT -5 @cwgbuckeyes7ncs said:

Irving, fractured knee cap. Out 4 months

yes, the nba team that was won the nba lottery 3 times in 4 years, including having just a 1% chance last year...is cursed.  that same nba team that had the best player in the world over the last 20 years choose them in free agency over every other basketball team in the world is cursed.  

really? do you think philly fans would feel better if they won the top pick in the draft vs winning a title? in any sport? in half a century? odds are against the cavs this year but the series has new hope after last night. sorry... you're analogy doesn't fit.

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Jun 8, 2015 9:17:31 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Jun 8, 2015 7:44:16 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

yes, the nba team that was won the nba lottery 3 times in 4 years, including having just a 1% chance last year...is cursed.  that same nba team that had the best player in the world over the last 20 years choose them in free agency over every other basketball team in the world is cursed.  

really? do you think philly fans would feel better if they won the top pick in the draft vs winning a title? in any sport? in half a century? odds are against the cavs this year but the series has new hope after last night. sorry... you're analogy doesn't fit.

philly fans would be as insufferable, if not worst than cleveland fans if they endured the same thing.  sports fans in general need better perspective.  cleveland or any other city is not cursed.  there is not some mysterious force making sure that cleveland fans, many of whom just experienced the glory of watching ohio state win the national title, never win a sports championship.  

[Buckeye Dale]

Jun 8, 2015 9:47:20 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

Jun 8, 2015 9:17:31 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

really? do you think philly fans would feel better if they won the top pick in the draft vs winning a title? in any sport? in half a century? odds are against the cavs this year but the series has new hope after last night. sorry... you're analogy doesn't fit.

philly fans would be as insufferable, if not worst than cleveland fans if they endured the same thing.  sports fans in general need better perspective.  cleveland or any other city is not cursed.  there is not some mysterious force making sure that cleveland fans, many of whom just experienced the glory of watching ohio state win the national title, never win a sports championship.  

What the HEKK are you talking about ... "WOULD BE???"

[mscott59]

Jun 8, 2015 9:47:20 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

Jun 8, 2015 9:17:31 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

really? do you think philly fans would feel better if they won the top pick in the draft vs winning a title? in any sport? in half a century? odds are against the cavs this year but the series has new hope after last night. sorry... you're analogy doesn't fit.

philly fans would be as insufferable, if not worst than cleveland fans if they endured the same thing.  sports fans in general need better perspective.  cleveland or any other city is not cursed.  there is not some mysterious force making sure that cleveland fans, many of whom just experienced the glory of watching ohio state win the national title, never win a sports championship.  

of course there's not a curse. i never said there was. but saying you're not just not cursed, but lucky, to win the nba lottery is just as ridiculous.... especially to a market of fans who haven't seen a pro sports trophy in town since lbj (lyndon johnson, not lebron james) was in office.

[snap infraction]

Jun 8, 2015 10:15:34 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Jun 8, 2015 9:47:20 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

philly fans would be as insufferable, if not worst than cleveland fans if they endured the same thing.  sports fans in general need better perspective.  cleveland or any other city is not cursed.  there is not some mysterious force making sure that cleveland fans, many of whom just experienced the glory of watching ohio state win the national title, never win a sports championship.  

of course there's not a curse. i never said there was. but saying you're not just not cursed, but lucky, to win the nba lottery is just as ridiculous.... especially to a market of fans who haven't seen a pro sports trophy in town since lbj (lyndon johnson, not lebron james) was in office.

the nba is an incredibly difficult league to win.  it is, imo, the hardest of the four major sports to build a championship team.  unlike other sports, you only have 5 players on the court.  the teams who have the most success at the teams that somehow acquire a superstar.  it's not the nfl where you can pluck a russell wilson or a tom brady later in the draft.  getting a super star in the nba is incredibly difficult.    you either have a high lottery pick, trade multiple assets or you have to convince a player to leave another city for often times less money.  cleveland built their team through both a high lottery picks, trading assets from other high lottery picks for a star player,  and signing a super star free agent.  how many nba teams would be able to build a team this way?  there's probably at least 2 dozen teams that could never sign an all star free agent in the first place.  

[Lee The Locksmith]

Jun 8, 2015 10:25:50 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

Jun 8, 2015 10:15:34 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

of course there's not a curse. i never said there was. but saying you're not just not cursed, but lucky, to win the nba lottery is just as ridiculous.... especially to a market of fans who haven't seen a pro sports trophy in town since lbj (lyndon johnson, not lebron james) was in office.

the nba is an incredibly difficult league to win.  it is, imo, the hardest of the four major sports to build a championship team.  unlike other sports, you only have 5 players on the court.  the teams who have the most success at the teams that somehow acquire a superstar.  it's not the nfl where you can pluck a russell wilson or a tom brady later in the draft.  getting a super star in the nba is incredibly difficult.    you either have a high lottery pick, trade multiple assets or you have to convince a player to leave another city for often times less money.  cleveland built their team through both a high lottery picks, trading assets from other high lottery picks for a star player,  and signing a super star free agent.  how many nba teams would be able to build a team this way?  there's probably at least 2 dozen teams that could never sign an all star free agent in the first place.  

Fine, but Patrick Ewing proved it still takes more....Last night, the Cavs rose to the occasion and it showed ....Will it last ? They are still considered the underdog....

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Jun 8, 2015 10:50:56 GMT -5 Lee The Locksmith said:

Jun 8, 2015 10:25:50 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

the nba is an incredibly difficult league to win.  it is, imo, the hardest of the four major sports to build a championship team.  unlike other sports, you only have 5 players on the court.  the teams who have the most success at the teams that somehow acquire a superstar.  it's not the nfl where you can pluck a russell wilson or a tom brady later in the draft.  getting a super star in the nba is incredibly difficult.    you either have a high lottery pick, trade multiple assets or you have to convince a player to leave another city for often times less money.  cleveland built their team through both a high lottery picks, trading assets from other high lottery picks for a star player,  and signing a super star free agent.  how many nba teams would be able to build a team this way?  there's probably at least 2 dozen teams that could never sign an all star free agent in the first place.  

Fine, but Patrick Ewing proved it still takes more....Last night, the Cavs rose to the occasion and it showed ....Will it last ? They are still considered the underdog....

yea i think cleveland surprised everyone last nite.  but where was mozgov at the end of the game?  he's got a nice offensive game and looks to be a reliable second option down the stretch.   it seems like when the game comes down to the wire, all cleveland does is iso lebron.  and lebron is going to have a more difficult time b/c the refs don't want to call a foul with the game on line.  

also, how the hell does cleveland put up with jr smith.  if he were on the 76ers, he'd be the most hated player.  he can't shoot that great.  he can't play defense.  he takes really dumb fouls.  he doesn't like to pass.  it's just mindboggling to me that he's out there.  

[oujour76]

Jun 8, 2015 10:15:34 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Jun 8, 2015 9:47:20 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

philly fans would be as insufferable, if not worst than cleveland fans if they endured the same thing.  sports fans in general need better perspective.  cleveland or any other city is not cursed.  there is not some mysterious force making sure that cleveland fans, many of whom just experienced the glory of watching ohio state win the national title, never win a sports championship.  

of course there's not a curse. i never said there was. but saying you're not just not cursed, but lucky, to win the nba lottery is just as ridiculous.... especially to a market of fans who haven't seen a pro sports trophy in town since lbj (lyndon johnson, not lebron james) was in office.

I smell a CIA conspiracy.

[mscott59]

Jun 8, 2015 11:11:15 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

Jun 8, 2015 10:50:56 GMT -5 Lee The Locksmith said:

Fine, but Patrick Ewing proved it still takes more....Last night, the Cavs rose to the occasion and it showed ....Will it last ? They are still considered the underdog....

yea i think cleveland surprised everyone last nite.  but where was mozgov at the end of the game?  he's got a nice offensive game and looks to be a reliable second option down the stretch.   it seems like when the game comes down to the wire, all cleveland does is iso lebron.  and lebron is going to have a more difficult time b/c the refs don't want to call a foul with the game on line.  

also, how the hell does cleveland put up with jr smith.  if he were on the 76ers, he'd be the most hated player.  he can't shoot that great.  he can't play defense.  he takes really dumb fouls.  he doesn't like to pass.  it's just mindboggling to me that he's out there.  

mozgov was on the bench, for the most part, because kerr went small w/his squad for most of the 2nd half. draymont green was the biggest player the warriors had on the floor, so blatt countered by not playing a 5.

[mscott59]

Jun 8, 2015 10:25:50 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

Jun 8, 2015 10:15:34 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

of course there's not a curse. i never said there was. but saying you're not just not cursed, but lucky, to win the nba lottery is just as ridiculous.... especially to a market of fans who haven't seen a pro sports trophy in town since lbj (lyndon johnson, not lebron james) was in office.

the nba is an incredibly difficult league to win.  it is, imo, the hardest of the four major sports to build a championship team.  unlike other sports, you only have 5 players on the court.  the teams who have the most success at the teams that somehow acquire a superstar.  it's not the nfl where you can pluck a russell wilson or a tom brady later in the draft.  getting a super star in the nba is incredibly difficult.    you either have a high lottery pick, trade multiple assets or you have to convince a player to leave another city for often times less money.  cleveland built their team through both a high lottery picks, trading assets from other high lottery picks for a star player,  and signing a super star free agent.  how many nba teams would be able to build a team this way?  there's probably at least 2 dozen teams that could never sign an all star free agent in the first place.  

and you can put cleveland on that list. james is the only star in the last 30 years who, in his prime, has chosen to go to cleveland. the first time he went was luck, fate, good fortune. as for where mozgov, shumpert, smith, dellavenova, thompson came from? how the cavs got this far w/o love and irving's injuries in the playoffs is nothing short of impressive.

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Jun 8, 2015 7:44:16 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

Jun 5, 2015 16:31:40 GMT -5 @cwgbuckeyes7ncs said:

Irving, fractured knee cap. Out 4 months

yes, the nba team that was won the nba lottery 3 times in 4 years, including having just a 1% chance last year...is cursed.  that same nba team that had the best player in the world over the last 20 years choose them in free agency over every other basketball team in the world is cursed.  

Please tell me you're joking. This has got to be a joke.

You're insane. Beyond insane. You thinking winning the draft lottery is what Cleveland fans want? You think winning the NBA draft lottery gets you banners and a trophy???

I and every single Cleveland fan would trade winning the NBA lottery for a Championship quicker than you can say Penn St got screwed over the Sandusky stuff.

Lebron coming back to Cleveland was great. Again, I'd take a championship over that any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

The city of Cleveland hasn't won a championship in 18,427 days, or 51 years, 5 months and 13 days. Which ever you prefer.

And the ways Cleveland has lost championships. Time and time again being so close, so close you could touch the trophy, in any of the big 3 sports only to lose in some of the most unreal fashions.

You think we're lucky??? You are brain dead.

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Jun 8, 2015 12:10:22 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Jun 8, 2015 10:25:50 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

the nba is an incredibly difficult league to win.  it is, imo, the hardest of the four major sports to build a championship team.  unlike other sports, you only have 5 players on the court.  the teams who have the most success at the teams that somehow acquire a superstar.  it's not the nfl where you can pluck a russell wilson or a tom brady later in the draft.  getting a super star in the nba is incredibly difficult.    you either have a high lottery pick, trade multiple assets or you have to convince a player to leave another city for often times less money.  cleveland built their team through both a high lottery picks, trading assets from other high lottery picks for a star player,  and signing a super star free agent.  how many nba teams would be able to build a team this way?  there's probably at least 2 dozen teams that could never sign an all star free agent in the first place.  

and you can put cleveland on that list. james is the only star in the last 30 years who, in his prime, has chosen to go to cleveland. the first time he went was luck, fate, good fortune. as for where mozgov, shumpert, smith, dellavenova, thompson came from? how the cavs got this far w/o love and irving's injuries in the playoffs is nothing short of impressive.

Last night was the 1st time in NBA history a team won a Finals game without 2 of their top 3 regular season scorers.