RUSSIAN SOURCE OF 'DIRTY' TRUMP DOSSIER FOUND DEAD IN MOSCOW

[daleko]

Feb 8, 2018 17:33:01 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Feb 8, 2018 16:43:25 GMT -5 daleko said:

Necro-posting at its finest.

Huh, Cheese Burgher?

I noticed that the Daily Beast published this story about Oleg Erovinkin's murder in a headline story last week.

I looked at the story and I thought, "Geez... I posted that story on CFB one year ago..."

You Trump trolls, in particular, are usually two or three years behind the curve in grasping the real news.

Then, when you finally realize that I was right all along, you pretend that the big news is a non-issue.

You being a MD probably know this but the USA ranks 177, with 77.97 deaths per 100,000, in the world for deaths by cardiac diseases with #1 being the worst. The top 13 are mostly populated by the old USSR, with Russia ranking # 9 with 320.40 deaths per 100,000. If you want to compare white males in Russia V White males in the US the disparity is probably even greater. A 61 yr old male in Russia having a cardiac event is three times more, maybe more, likely to happen there than here. And that wouldn't raise an overarching eyebrow here. The guy was found in his car slumped over. Though no cause was determined, it could have easily been just a heart attack as something nefarious. 

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Feb 8, 2018 18:21:39 GMT -5 daleko said:

Feb 8, 2018 17:33:01 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Huh, Cheese Burgher?

I noticed that the Daily Beast published this story about Oleg Erovinkin's murder in a headline story last week.

I looked at the story and I thought, "Geez... I posted that story on CFB one year ago..."

You Trump trolls, in particular, are usually two or three years behind the curve in grasping the real news.

Then, when you finally realize that I was right all along, you pretend that the big news is a non-issue.

You being a MD probably know this but the USA ranks 177, with 77.97 deaths per 100,000, in the world for deaths by cardiac diseases with #1 being the worst. The top 13 are mostly populated by the old USSR, with Russia ranking # 9 with 320.40 deaths per 100,000. If you want to compare white males in Russia V White males in the US the disparity is probably even greater. A 61 yr old male in Russia having a cardiac event is three times more, maybe more, likely to happen there than here. And that wouldn't raise an overarching eyebrow here. The guy was found in his car slumped over. Though no cause was determined, it could have easily been just a heart attack as something nefarious. 

O.K., Cheese Burgher, let's assume, for a moment, that Erovinkin just happened to have a fatal heart attack the day after his Steele dossier intelligence was made public.

What about all of the other dead Russian guys who knew Trump, Manafort, Page, Flynn, et.al. ??

We know that one of them was thrown off of a balcony, and another was gunned down in cold blood on a street in Kiev.

Just coincidences?

[daleko]

Feb 8, 2018 21:07:49 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Feb 8, 2018 18:21:39 GMT -5 daleko said:

You being a MD probably know this but the USA ranks 177, with 77.97 deaths per 100,000, in the world for deaths by cardiac diseases with #1 being the worst. The top 13 are mostly populated by the old USSR, with Russia ranking # 9 with 320.40 deaths per 100,000. If you want to compare white males in Russia V White males in the US the disparity is probably even greater. A 61 yr old male in Russia having a cardiac event is three times more, maybe more, likely to happen there than here. And that wouldn't raise an overarching eyebrow here. The guy was found in his car slumped over. Though no cause was determined, it could have easily been just a heart attack as something nefarious. 

O.K., Cheese Burgher, let's assume, for a moment, that Erovinkin just happened to have a fatal heart attack the day after his Steele dossier intelligence was made public.

What about all of the other dead Russian guys who knew Trump, Manafort, Page, Flynn, et.al. ??

We know that one of them was thrown off of a balcony, and another was gunned down in cold blood on a street in Kiev.

Just coincidences?

Well today, I'm inspirited that I don't know Trump, Manafort, Page, Flynn, though depending on the et.al., perhaps I should have some concern. The Ukraine, today is a dangerous country. Murder rate has exploded from a posted rate of 4.06 in 2010. Russia's  2010 number 11+. The US I believe was at 4.88. The criminal element rules and the courts don't help. Every month they have 124 acts of terrorism. With alcoholism as prevalent as it is perhaps he just fell over. 

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Feb 8, 2018 23:03:44 GMT -5 daleko said:

Feb 8, 2018 21:07:49 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

O.K., Cheese Burgher, let's assume, for a moment, that Erovinkin just happened to have a fatal heart attack the day after his Steele dossier intelligence was made public.

What about all of the other dead Russian guys who knew Trump, Manafort, Page, Flynn, et.al. ??

We know that one of them was thrown off of a balcony, and another was gunned down in cold blood on a street in Kiev.

Just coincidences?

Well today, I'm inspirited that I don't know Trump, Manafort, Page, Flynn, though depending on the et.al., perhaps I should have some concern. The Ukraine, today is a dangerous country. Murder rate has exploded from a posted rate of 4.06 in 2010. Russia's  2010 number 11+. The US I believe was at 4.88. The criminal element rules and the courts don't help. Every month they have 124 acts of terrorism. With alcoholism as prevalent as it is perhaps he just fell over. 

In the cases of the murdered Russiagate and JFK assassination witnesses, probability and actuarial statistics do not support your argument, Cheese Burgher.

My hunch is that you never studied the well-documented forensic and actuarial references I showed you about all of the many key JFK assassination "witnesses" who experienced untimely deaths.

I can lead you to data, but I can't make you think... 

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   It will be more fascinating than any fictional John LeCarre spy thriller if Robert Mueller's investigation ever gets to the bottom of this Trump-Putin Russia-gate scandal. 

   However, I doubt that Paul Manafort will ever spill the beans.

    For one thing, he knows that Trump will pardon him.

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Aug 24, 2018 18:31:50 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

   It will be more fascinating than any fictional John LeCarre spy thriller if Robert Mueller's investigation ever gets to the bottom of this Trump-Putin Russia-gate scandal. 

   However, I doubt that Paul Manafort will ever spill the beans.

    For one thing, he knows that Trump will pardon him.

Wow.  What a difference two months can make.

I guess we'll find out on November 9th what Manafort and Michael Cohen told Mueller.

Or will we? 

Manafort, allegedly, showed up in court last week in a wheelchair.

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Oct 22, 2018 10:10:15 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Aug 24, 2018 18:31:50 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

   It will be more fascinating than any fictional John LeCarre spy thriller if Robert Mueller's investigation ever gets to the bottom of this Trump-Putin Russia-gate scandal. 

   However, I doubt that Paul Manafort will ever spill the beans.

    For one thing, he knows that Trump will pardon him.

Wow.  What a difference two months can make.

I guess we'll find out on November 9th what Manafort and Michael Cohen told Mueller.

Or will we? 

Manafort, allegedly, showed up in court last week in a wheelchair.

And now we learn that Manafort did NOT spill the beans, after all.

Banking on a Trump pardon, he simply lied and violated the terms of his own plea bargain.

Meanwhile, I have noticed that some people here still don't seem to know that Oleg Erovinkin-- the source of the Steele Dossier intelligence-- was found dead in his Lexus in Moscow after Putin found out about the Dossier...