DAMN!!!!!!

[Lee The Locksmith]

Jun 25, 2017 6:44:40 GMT -5 bamorin said:

Jun 24, 2017 10:55:25 GMT -5 @kelliers said:

Is thiss the magical Hornady you're talking about, Bam?
I've heard good things about this bullet but haven't tried them so far.
www.hornady.com/store/ELD-X-New

I wasn't commenting on a hornady bullet outside of the A-Max 50 cal bullet in which they state a BC of 1.05. which is above the 1.01 of John Brownings original design. I commented on your question about about the ability of the 50BMG to get that far down range to explode a head.
The 416 round that Daleko mentioned that achieved a BC above what the A-Max 50 does I called into question. Until there is verifiable doppler measurements from a standardized environment, I'll remain a bit skeptical.

As I posted from the very beginning of this thread, the .50 cal doesn't disappoint....when that bullet SLAMMED into him from that distance, it was like getting hit with a flying VW...See ya rag head....

[bamorin]

Jun 25, 2017 8:26:19 GMT -5 @muttthemaster said:

Jun 25, 2017 6:44:40 GMT -5 bamorin said:

I wasn't commenting on a hornady bullet outside of the A-Max 50 cal bullet in which they state a BC of 1.05. which is above the 1.01 of John Brownings original design. I commented on your question about about the ability of the 50BMG to get that far down range to explode a head.
The 416 round that Daleko mentioned that achieved a BC above what the A-Max 50 does I called into question. Until there is verifiable doppler measurements from a standardized environment, I'll remain a bit skeptical.

How many battles are fought at 59^oF with a barometric pressure of 29.92 mbs at sea level?   [And there is no standard established for relative humidity.]
Just curious.

what the f-word does that have to do with anything? the advantage of increased ballistic coefficient of a spire point bullet over a round nose bullet will remain an advantage regardless of the atmospheric conditions. the only place there is zero advantage of the bullet shape in in an absolute vacuum.

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Jun 25, 2017 9:20:42 GMT -5 bamorin said:

Jun 25, 2017 8:26:19 GMT -5 @muttthemaster said:

How many battles are fought at 59^oF with a barometric pressure of 29.92 mbs at sea level?   [And there is no standard established for relative humidity.]
Just curious.

what the f-word does that have to do with anything? the advantage of increased ballistic coefficient of a spire point bullet over a round nose bullet will remain an advantage regardless of the atmospheric conditions. the only place there is zero advantage of the bullet shape in in an absolute vacuum.

You tell ME.   You are the one who brought up environment.

[bamorin]

Jun 25, 2017 11:28:56 GMT -5 @muttthemaster said:

Jun 25, 2017 9:20:42 GMT -5 bamorin said:

what the f-word does that have to do with anything? the advantage of increased ballistic coefficient of a spire point bullet over a round nose bullet will remain an advantage regardless of the atmospheric conditions. the only place there is zero advantage of the bullet shape in in an absolute vacuum.

You tell ME.   You are the one who brought up environment.

you're coloring outside the lines again.......practice

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Jun 25, 2017 14:05:04 GMT -5 bamorin said:

Jun 25, 2017 11:28:56 GMT -5 @muttthemaster said:

You tell ME.   You are the one who brought up environment.

you're coloring outside the lines again.......practice

I think you need to tell that to HORNADY, and then start your own bullet manufacturing company.
As for me, I figure the pros know what they are talking about.

[bamorin]

Jun 25, 2017 14:10:09 GMT -5 @muttthemaster said:

Jun 25, 2017 14:05:04 GMT -5 bamorin said:

you're coloring outside the lines again.......practice

I think you need to tell that to HORNADY, and then start your own bullet manufacturing company.
As for me, I figure the pros know what they are talking about.

yer still babbling........you still don't understand the words you read.........of course there is no "absolute B.C." kinda would defeat the "Co" in coefficient wouldn't it. Ever wonder why fast airplanes dont have a flat front end on them?

[Lee The Locksmith]

I DONE TOLD YOU NIQQERS HOW IT WENT DOWN ALREADY !!!!

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Jun 25, 2017 14:18:26 GMT -5 bamorin said:

Jun 25, 2017 14:10:09 GMT -5 @muttthemaster said:

I think you need to tell that to HORNADY, and then start your own bullet manufacturing company.
As for me, I figure the pros know what they are talking about.

yer still babbling........you still don't understand the words you read.........of course there is no "absolute B.C." kinda would defeat the "Co" in coefficient wouldn't it. Ever wonder why fast airplanes dont have a flat front end on them?

And you are still trying to claim that a bullet with a higher B.C. is somehow "better" than a lower one, despite the FACT that Hornady says this is not true?

Go ahead and tell my why fast airplanes don't have blunt noses.   I don't know much about airplanes at all.  Then tell my why an F-16 is "better" than an A-10 or an AH-64 helicopter.

[bamorin]

Jun 25, 2017 17:21:29 GMT -5 @muttthemaster said:

And you are still trying to claim that a bullet with a higher B.C. is somehow "better" than a lower one, despite the FACT that Hornady says this is not true?

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No, Hornady says no such thing. If they believed all bullet shapes were equal, they would make all of the shapes equal. you just can't read.
so until you learn any basic understanding of a firearm.......you can go f-word off

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Jun 25, 2017 20:47:16 GMT -5 bamorin said:

Jun 25, 2017 17:21:29 GMT -5 @muttthemaster said:

And you are still trying to claim that a bullet with a higher B.C. is somehow "better" than a lower one, despite the FACT that Hornady says this is not true?

No, Hornady says no such thing. If they believed all bullet shapes were equal, they would make all of the shapes equal. you just can't read.
so until you learn any basic understanding of a firearm.......you can go f-word off


Last time, then I'm done.   I'll let you experts argue with Hornady.


The Ballistic Coefficient

Before discussing this topic in more detail, let's dispel some myths surrounding it. Whatever you may have heard before, these are the facts:
There is no such thing as an absolute and invariable ballistic coefficient (B. C.)
Ballistic coefficients are only one factor in bullet selection for different kinds of shooting.
A ballistic coefficient can change with reference to (1) altitude, (2) temperature, (3) atmospheric pressure, and (4) relative humidity.
Ballistic coefficients are measures of a bullet's relative efficiency.
Ballistic coefficients are not measures of a bullet's "goodness."
Higher B.C.s do not necessarily make a bullet "better."
Lower B.C.s do not necessarily make a bullet "worse."

www.hornady.com/ballistics-resource/external

[nitronole]

[quote author="Lee The Locksmith" source="/post/363044/thread" As I posted from the very beginning of this thread, the .50 cal doesn't disappoint....when that bullet SLAMMED into him from that distance, it was like getting hit with a flying VW...See ya rag head....[/font][/font]

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Actually, before the bullet slammed into him, the sonic shock waves/air displacement , in front of the bullet, begin to rip and tear apart his flesh at the entry point before the bullet even hits. Some have suggested these bullets can simply go by your head within inches, and still kill you w/o even hitting you due to the above.

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Jun 26, 2017 12:40:28 GMT -5 nitronole said:

[quote author="Lee The Locksmith " source="/post/363044/thread" As I posted from the very beginning of this thread, the .50 cal doesn't disappoint....when that bullet SLAMMED into him from that distance, it was like getting hit with a flying VW...See ya rag head....

Actually, before the bullet slammed into him, the sonic shock waves/air displacement , in front of the bullet, begin to rip and tear apart his flesh at the entry point before the bullet even hits. Some have suggested these bullets can simply go by your head within inches, and still kill you w/o even hitting you due to the above.


Oh now THAT is hilarious!!!
Here we see a guy shooting through a stack of plastic cups AND a house of playing cards with a .50 BMG, and the cups & cards that are not struck by the bullet are totally undisturbed. 

Why weren't the cup and the card blown out of the way by that magic powerful shock wave before the bullet could reach them?   They weigh NOTHING.
You shouldn't listen to the "internet experts."

[nitronole]

Jun 26, 2017 13:37:19 GMT -5 @muttthemaster said:

Jun 26, 2017 12:40:28 GMT -5 nitronole said:

[quote author="Lee The Locksmith " source="/post/363044/thread" As I posted from the very beginning of this thread, the .50 cal doesn't disappoint....when that bullet SLAMMED into him from that distance, it was like getting hit with a flying VW...See ya rag head....

Actually, before the bullet slammed into him, the sonic shock waves/air displacement , in front of the bullet, begin to rip and tear apart his flesh at the entry point before the bullet even hits. Some have suggested these bullets can simply go by your head within inches, and still kill you w/o even hitting you due to the above.


Oh now THAT is hilarious!!!
Here we see a guy shooting through a stack of plastic cups AND a house of playing cards with a .50 BMG, and the cups & cards that are not struck by the bullet are totally undisturbed. 

Why weren't the cup and the card blown out of the way by that magic powerful shock wave before the bullet could reach them?   They weigh NOTHING.
You shouldn't listen to the "internet experts."

LAUGH AT THE HISTORY CHANNEL ,SHOWING IT IN SLOW MOTION, NOT ME. IT CAME FROM THEM.BTW, I am sure the guy in the video was using the same bullets as our snipers in the military do. was his ammo "super sonic', probably not. CAVITATION.....look it up. Upon impact of a 50 cal. to the body, you are cut in half, not by the bullet, but by cavitation, super sonic waves, etc.

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Not trying to be a buzzkill but I doubt any .50 BMG round is less than supersonic (1,126 ft/sec or more).
.50 cal is great at creating the fabled pink mist upon impact with organic tissue.

[Buckeye Dale]

Jun 22, 2017 11:44:29 GMT -5 nitronole said:

Report: Record 2-mile sniper shot kills ISIS militant in Iraq




A Canadian soldier in Iraq has killed an ISIS militant from more than two miles away, shattering the world record for a confirmed sniper kill in military history.

According to Toronto’s Globe and Mail newspaper, the gun specialist from the elite Joint Task Force 2 achieved the feat with a shot from a high-rise during an operation within the past 30 days.

“The shot in question actually disrupted a Daesh (Islamic State) attack on Iraqi security forces,” a military source — who requested anonymity because the unit’s operations are classified — told the paper. “Instead of dropping a bomb that could potentially kill civilians in the area, it is a very precise application of force and because it was so far way, the bad guys didn’t have a clue what was happening.”

The 3,450-meter shot, which took about 10 seconds to reach its target, was independently verified by a video camera and other data, the source said.


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Besides being a hell of a shot, quite a bit of luck involved in this as well...