Hackers Altered 2016 Presidential Campaign Voter Data

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Hackers Reported to Have Altered 2016 Presidential Voter Data

www.mediaite.com/uncategorized/hackers-reported-to-have-altered-2016-presidential-campaign-voter-information/



June 22, 2017


According to a report by Time Magazine on Thursday, current and former officials said that hackers were a lot more involved in the 2016 election than previously stated, including a successful attempt to change voter information and steal voter information.

This hack was discovered and changed back, according to officials. But so far they have not connected it to Russia, despite previous speculation. Russian President Vladimir Putin said he did not order the hack, but some “patriotically minded” citizens might have. Putin continued the next day said it’s very possible any hacker, from any part of the world, could have done it and blamed it on Russia.

However, the article by Time attributes the 90,000 records stolen in Illinois to Russian state actors, which contained driver’s license numbers and the last four digits of Social Security numbers, according to Ken Menzel, the General Counsel of the Illinois State Board Elections.

The investigation continues though, as officials look to see if either side of the presidential campaign obtained this stolen information. According to CNN last week, House investigators are planning to call Brad Parscale, Trump’s campaign digital director, for testimony and documents.

Talk of the Russian’s involvement in the campaign has not died down, as just yesterday reporters asked Trump’s press secretary Sean Spicer in a press briefing about the Russian involvement. Spicer’s answer remained vague as he just said “I’ve not asked the president about that.”

Thursday, the House and Senate Intelligence committees held hearings about the U.S. election system’s flaws and addressing the fear of more hacks in the future. According to the officials though, the hacks did not impact the vote count.

Congressman Adam Schiff was not convinced, saying (via Time), “There’s no evidence they were able to effect the counting within the machines, the effect on the election is quite a different matter.”

Michael Bahar with the House Intelligence Committee, says he plans to continue this investigation so it doesn’t happen again.

“The integrity of the entire system is in question,” Bahar said, “So you need the system to push back and find out what happened and why, so it never happens again.”

[AlaCowboy]

No article yet published claims that one single vote was altered by these alleged hacks. When you find one that can prove that, we can discuss it.

[oujour76]

Jun 23, 2017 0:01:13 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

No article yet published claims that one single vote was altered by these alleged hacks. When you find one that can prove that, we can discuss it.

That is the issue, isn't it?

[AlaCowboy]

Jun 23, 2017 7:51:46 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Jun 23, 2017 0:01:13 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

No article yet published claims that one single vote was altered by these alleged hacks. When you find one that can prove that, we can discuss it.

That is the issue, isn't it?

Not if all one wants to do is stir a pot of shit to enjoy the smell.

[Walter]

Jun 23, 2017 0:01:13 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

No article yet published claims that one single vote was altered by these alleged hacks. When you find one that can prove that, we can discuss it.

Are you claiming that only an altered vote proves anything?
If a voter role was altered and a voter denied access to vote, would that count? And if altered voter rolls only occurred in blue counties, would that count?

That is some of what is being found was being attempted.

That doesn't worry you?

[Buckeye Dale]

Jun 23, 2017 9:06:26 GMT -5 Walter said:

Jun 23, 2017 0:01:13 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

No article yet published claims that one single vote was altered by these alleged hacks. When you find one that can prove that, we can discuss it.

Are you claiming that only an altered vote proves anything?
If a voter role was altered and a voter denied access to vote, would that count? And if altered voter rolls only occurred in blue counties, would that count?

That is some of what is being found was being attempted.

That doesn't worry you?

Those people (in most states, from what I've read) are offered a provisional ballot that is accepted, recorded, and stored until their claim is investigated (& I'm sure, checked against the recorded votes to see if it would have any affect on the election).  Bottom Line, it doesn't matter, as far as that election is concerned.

[Walter]

Jun 23, 2017 10:25:00 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

Jun 23, 2017 9:06:26 GMT -5 Walter said:

Are you claiming that only an altered vote proves anything?
If a voter role was altered and a voter denied access to vote, would that count? And if altered voter rolls only occurred in blue counties, would that count?

That is some of what is being found was being attempted.

That doesn't worry you?

Those people (in most states, from what I've read) are offered a provisional ballot that is accepted, recorded, and stored until their claim is investigated (& I'm sure, checked against the recorded votes to see if it would have any affect on the election).  Bottom Line, it doesn't matter, as far as that election is concerned.

So, when there are irregularities in the roles caused by external sources driven by bad intent; serious enough that it might require some polls to stay open sometimes an hour, maybe two hours later than usual, you don't think anyone, at 8p...9p...might decide. "Oh, F-this. Screw it. I'm going home." ?
Never happen...even once, eh?

Seriously?
Because Senators and Congressmen seem to think it might be a problem.

[Deleted]

Jun 23, 2017 0:01:13 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

No article yet published claims that one single vote was altered by these alleged hacks. When you find one that can prove that, we can discuss it.

I can tell that the subject of possibly altered vote tallies in 2016 is deeply disturbing to you, Dung-head.

It should be.

[AlaCowboy]

Jun 23, 2017 9:06:26 GMT -5 Walter said:

Jun 23, 2017 0:01:13 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

No article yet published claims that one single vote was altered by these alleged hacks. When you find one that can prove that, we can discuss it.

Are you claiming that only an altered vote proves anything?
If a voter role was altered and a voter denied access to vote, would that count? And if altered voter rolls only occurred in blue counties, would that count?

That is some of what is being found was being attempted.

That doesn't worry you?

Is there proof that people were denied the right to vote due to alleged meddling by the Russians? I would like to see proof that happened. What about the Department of Homeland Security attempting to hack voting records in several states? Don't you find it disturbing that federal officials under the direct control of Obama tied to "meddle" with the 2016 election? Apparently not, since those Democrats tried to elect an unelectable piece of trash.

[Walter]

Jun 23, 2017 12:06:57 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

Jun 23, 2017 9:06:26 GMT -5 Walter said:

Are you claiming that only an altered vote proves anything?
If a voter role was altered and a voter denied access to vote, would that count? And if altered voter rolls only occurred in blue counties, would that count?

That is some of what is being found was being attempted.

That doesn't worry you?

Is there proof that people were denied the right to vote due to alleged meddling by the Russians? I would like to see proof that happened. What about the Department of Homeland Security attempting to hack voting records in several states? Don't you find it disturbing that federal officials under the direct control of Obama tied to "meddle" with the 2016 election? Apparently not, since those Democrats tried to elect an unelectable piece of trash.

Stay focused. Forget about 2016. It's done. Stop trying to defend Trump's win by denying that there were attempts to subvert the vote. Trump won. Get over it.
Going forward, are you concerned that foreign governments could attempt to meddle in the American election process?
Yes or no?

Does it concern you that there is evidence that computers in Russia attempted to hack the blue Dallas County, TX voter roles, (unsuccessfully, it turned out) but not any of the red surrounding jurisdictions?

www.therepublic.com/2017/06/15/us-russia-hacking-elections-dallas/

Cuz it should. The Russians weren't hacking random voter roles. Empirically speaking, they seemed to have had a very particular aim in mind.

[AlaCowboy]

Jun 23, 2017 12:22:10 GMT -5 Walter said:

Jun 23, 2017 12:06:57 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

Is there proof that people were denied the right to vote due to alleged meddling by the Russians? I would like to see proof that happened. What about the Department of Homeland Security attempting to hack voting records in several states? Don't you find it disturbing that federal officials under the direct control of Obama tied to "meddle" with the 2016 election? Apparently not, since those Democrats tried to elect an unelectable piece of trash.

Stay focused. Forget about 2016. It's done. Stop trying to defend Trump's win by denying that there were attempts to subvert the vote. Trump won. Get over it.
Going forward, are you concerned that foreign governments could attempt to meddle in the American election process?
Yes or no?

Does it concern you that there is evidence that computers in Russia attempted to hack the blue Dallas County, TX voter roles, (unsuccessfully, it turned out) but not any of the red surrounding jurisdictions?

www.therepublic.com/2017/06/15/us-russia-hacking-elections-dallas/

Cuz it should. The Russians weren't hacking random voter roles. Empirically speaking, they seemed to have had a very particular aim in mind.

Of course it would bother me that anyone, from any country, tried to hack our election system. It also bothers me that some of those hacking attempts came from Obama operatives in our own federal government. Until FACTS are produced to confirm that the system was successfully hacked and votes altered or changed, I will also be thankful that our election system, rudimentary though it may be, was NOT breached and no votes or vote totals changed or cancelled.
But what bothers me most is that you and other Losing Loony Liberals like you and your cohorts in here aren't bothered a bit that Obama might have been directly involved in trying to fix the 2016 national election.

[Walter]

Jun 23, 2017 13:50:41 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

Jun 23, 2017 12:22:10 GMT -5 Walter said:

Stay focused. Forget about 2016. It's done. Stop trying to defend Trump's win by denying that there were attempts to subvert the vote. Trump won. Get over it.
Going forward, are you concerned that foreign governments could attempt to meddle in the American election process?
Yes or no?

Does it concern you that there is evidence that computers in Russia attempted to hack the blue Dallas County, TX voter roles, (unsuccessfully, it turned out) but not any of the red surrounding jurisdictions?

www.therepublic.com/2017/06/15/us-russia-hacking-elections-dallas/

Cuz it should. The Russians weren't hacking random voter roles. Empirically speaking, they seemed to have had a very particular aim in mind.

Of course it would bother me that anyone, from any country, tried to hack our election system. It also bothers me that some of those hacking attempts came from Obama operatives in our own federal government. Until FACTS are produced to confirm that the system was successfully hacked and votes altered or changed, I will also be thankful that our election system, rudimentary though it may be, was NOT breached and no votes or vote totals changed or cancelled.
But what bothers me most is that you and other Losing Loony Liberals like you and your cohorts in here aren't bothered a bit that Obama might have been directly involved in trying to fix the 2016 national election.

Go ahead and post evidence of it.
I'll be glad to take a look.

[AlaCowboy]

Jun 23, 2017 15:22:35 GMT -5 Walter said:

Jun 23, 2017 13:50:41 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

Of course it would bother me that anyone, from any country, tried to hack our election system. It also bothers me that some of those hacking attempts came from Obama operatives in our own federal government. Until FACTS are produced to confirm that the system was successfully hacked and votes altered or changed, I will also be thankful that our election system, rudimentary though it may be, was NOT breached and no votes or vote totals changed or cancelled.
But what bothers me most is that you and other Losing Loony Liberals like you and your cohorts in here aren't bothered a bit that Obama might have been directly involved in trying to fix the 2016 national election.

Go ahead and post evidence of it.
I'll be glad to take a look.

I'll do that. Right after you post evidence (not conjecture or accusations) that Russians hacked into various election systems and changed votes or deleted people from voting roles.
By the way, I've already posted statements from state election officials in several states that the Obama Department of Homeland Security attempted to hack into their voting records.

[Lee The Locksmith]

Jun 23, 2017 9:06:26 GMT -5 Walter said:

That doesn't worry you?

Yes, Walter....This worries EVERONE....

[Walter]

Jun 23, 2017 15:53:25 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

Jun 23, 2017 15:22:35 GMT -5 Walter said:

Go ahead and post evidence of it.
I'll be glad to take a look.

I'll do that. Right after you post evidence (not conjecture or accusations) that Russians hacked into various election systems and changed votes or deleted people from voting roles.
By the way, I've already posted statements from state election officials in several states that the Obama Department of Homeland Security attempted to hack into their voting records.

Quit trying to defend what isn't being attacked.
Trump won election.
Get over it.

I already posted evidence that the Russians tried to hack the voter roles in Texas.
To not be alarmed is like not being alarmed that someone shot at you...because they missed.

But hey, since you won't do it, I will do it for you.
Here's an article that explains Feds accessing to local voting systems. Go ahead and tell us what you fear about it.

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-13/russian-breach-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-elections