Basketball Coaches Arrested

[Mickey34jb]

Sept 26, 2017 19:37:02 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Sept 26, 2017 16:20:07 GMT -5 daleko said:

Not saying he's involved but Pearl is a snake going back to his days as an Iowa asst coach. There were always local Qs when he was at Wisky-Milw but given the low profile of the program, there was never any traction. You'd think he'd be immune at Aubarn from any temptation. Low expectations, what.

Rick Pitino is shocked to find out Louisville is part of the investigation. Well, that does it for me! Clearly nothing to see here...if you can't believe Rick Pitino, who can you believe?

www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20830030/rick-pitino-says-louisville-involvement-corruption-investigation-complete-shock

I cant see Pitino surviving the stripper/prostitute scandal and this current bribe scandal. He should be gone.

[Walter]

Is there any coincidence that a Super64 team like USC is today being seen of as a top25 team?
I hate to bring up the coincidence, but I was surprised that a program like USC jumped into national prominance.
I hope there is no there there, but....

[snap infraction]

Sept 26, 2017 19:37:02 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Sept 26, 2017 16:20:07 GMT -5 daleko said:

Not saying he's involved but Pearl is a snake going back to his days as an Iowa asst coach. There were always local Qs when he was at Wisky-Milw but given the low profile of the program, there was never any traction. You'd think he'd be immune at Aubarn from any temptation. Low expectations, what.

Rick Pitino is shocked to find out Louisville is part of the investigation. Well, that does it for me! Clearly nothing to see here...if you can't believe Rick Pitino, who can you believe?

www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20830030/rick-pitino-says-louisville-involvement-corruption-investigation-complete-shock

if i'm understanding this correctly, it seems that adidas had a 160 million dollar apparel deal with louisville over 10 years.  then an adidas marketing guy conspired to secretly funnel $100,000 to the family of a five star recruit who abruptly committed to louisville around the same time.  and this is just the minimum info released. 

obviously adidas expects this guy to sign marketing deals with them when he is eligible.  is it possible that the basketball program had no idea a big shoe company was paying recruits to play for its university?  or did they know but looked the other way?  or were they involved in the scheme? u have to believe they were somehow involved.  

since the fbi is involved...you have to assume there will be evidence that the ncaa would be unable to obtain (wires, recordings, transcripts, etc).  

[oujour76]

Sept 27, 2017 7:25:41 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

if i'm understanding this correctly, it seems that adidas had a 160 million dollar apparel deal with louisville over 10 years.  then an adidas marketing guy conspired to secretly funnel $100,000 to the family of a five star recruit who abruptly committed to louisville around the same time.  and this is just the minimum info released. 

obviously adidas expects this guy to sign marketing deals with them when he is eligible.  is it possible that the basketball program had no idea a big shoe company was paying recruits to play for its university?  or did they know but looked the other way?  or were they involved in the scheme? u have to believe they were somehow involved.  

since the fbi is involved...you have to assume there will be evidence that the ncaa would be unable to obtain (wires, recordings, transcripts, etc).  

In Louisville's case, it was an Adidas school. The other schools weren't. And for Adidas, it didn't matter about the school shoe contract, it was about after the player left school. The school(s) got the one-and-done type player with the understanding that Adidas would get a shoe deal with that player when he turned pro. Coaches and schools want players and they leave the details up to the assistant coaches, iow...they don't want to know. The schools and coaches will be on their soap boxes shortly proclaiming they were duped, led astray by a rogue employee, etc. On an interesting note, I saw where your buddy Louis Freeh has been hired as a consultant by one of the schools...USC, I think.

[Walter]

Sept 27, 2017 8:08:29 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Sept 27, 2017 7:25:41 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

if i'm understanding this correctly, it seems that adidas had a 160 million dollar apparel deal with louisville over 10 years.  then an adidas marketing guy conspired to secretly funnel $100,000 to the family of a five star recruit who abruptly committed to louisville around the same time.  and this is just the minimum info released. 

obviously adidas expects this guy to sign marketing deals with them when he is eligible.  is it possible that the basketball program had no idea a big shoe company was paying recruits to play for its university?  or did they know but looked the other way?  or were they involved in the scheme? u have to believe they were somehow involved.  

since the fbi is involved...you have to assume there will be evidence that the ncaa would be unable to obtain (wires, recordings, transcripts, etc).  

In Louisville's case, it was an Adidas school. The other schools weren't. And for Adidas, it didn't matter about the school shoe contract, it was about after the player left school. The school(s) got the one-and-done type player with the understanding that Adidas would get a shoe deal with that player when he turned pro. Coaches and schools want players and they leave the details up to the assistant coaches, iow...they don't want to know. The schools and coaches will be on their soap boxes shortly proclaiming they were duped, led astray by a rogue employee, etc. On an interesting note, I saw where your buddy Louis Freeh has been hired as a consultant by one of the schools...USC, I think.

This all starting to remind me of the worst kept secret in the history of the world; that shoe companies paid Olympic "amateur" athletes.
And it should be brought above the table in the same way.
If high schooler Johnny Slamajama can land a shoe deal, good for him. That has nothing to do with the NCAA or whatever school Johnny decides to attend. Hell, the net effect might be that he stays in school and gets a degree. Wouldn't that be better than poor JS hurrying to a payday and losing the education opportunity?

[oujour76]

Sept 27, 2017 9:22:41 GMT -5 Walter said:

This all starting to remind me of the worst kept secret in the history of the world; that shoe companies paid Olympic "amateur" athletes.
And it should be brought above the table in the same way.
If high schooler Johnny Slamajama can land a shoe deal, good for him. That has nothing to do with the NCAA or whatever school Johnny decides to attend. Hell, the net effect might be that he stays in school and gets a degree. Wouldn't that be better than poor JS hurrying to a payday and losing the education opportunity?

Not the same thing, Track and Field is an individual sport. And if JS signs with Adidas, the school can't sign an exclusive deal with Nike or Under Armour, etc. Not to mention that often times head coaches get a big check for that apparel deal.

[Walter]

Sept 27, 2017 9:37:07 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Sept 27, 2017 9:22:41 GMT -5 Walter said:

This all starting to remind me of the worst kept secret in the history of the world; that shoe companies paid Olympic "amateur" athletes.
And it should be brought above the table in the same way.
If high schooler Johnny Slamajama can land a shoe deal, good for him. That has nothing to do with the NCAA or whatever school Johnny decides to attend. Hell, the net effect might be that he stays in school and gets a degree. Wouldn't that be better than poor JS hurrying to a payday and losing the education opportunity?

Not the same thing, Track and Field is an individual sport. And if JS signs with Adidas, the school can't sign an exclusive deal with Nike or Under Armour, etc. Not to mention that often times head coaches get a big check for that apparel deal.

So what? Johnny has a Nike deal, your school has an Adidas deal, but Johnny can slam it with his left foot, is a nightly triple double threat with lockdown D talent and wants to commit to your school. What would you do? As AD, I renegotiate my apparel deal for the Bball program immediately.

[snap infraction]

Sept 27, 2017 8:08:29 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Sept 27, 2017 7:25:41 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

if i'm understanding this correctly, it seems that adidas had a 160 million dollar apparel deal with louisville over 10 years.  then an adidas marketing guy conspired to secretly funnel $100,000 to the family of a five star recruit who abruptly committed to louisville around the same time.  and this is just the minimum info released. 

obviously adidas expects this guy to sign marketing deals with them when he is eligible.  is it possible that the basketball program had no idea a big shoe company was paying recruits to play for its university?  or did they know but looked the other way?  or were they involved in the scheme? u have to believe they were somehow involved.  

since the fbi is involved...you have to assume there will be evidence that the ncaa would be unable to obtain (wires, recordings, transcripts, etc).  

In Louisville's case, it was an Adidas school. The other schools weren't. And for Adidas, it didn't matter about the school shoe contract, it was about after the player left school. The school(s) got the one-and-done type player with the understanding that Adidas would get a shoe deal with that player when he turned pro. Coaches and schools want players and they leave the details up to the assistant coaches, iow...they don't want to know. The schools and coaches will be on their soap boxes shortly proclaiming they were duped, led astray by a rogue employee, etc. On an interesting note, I saw where your buddy Louis Freeh has been hired as a consultant by one of the schools...USC, I think.

i saw the freeh hiring by usc.  i have a strange suspicion that whoever hired freeh will somehow avoid any scrutiny in whatever freeh finds.   

[Walter]

Heard this morning that they actually have tape recordings of conversation by the people involved setting up the bribery schemes.
IMO, this is going to rock the BBall world.
As an FBI spokesman said this morning, "We have your playbook".

Alas, I see sanctions in USC's future over this and probably a new head coach or three.

[beuycek]

Pitino is toast.. finally.

[daleko]

Sept 27, 2017 10:02:29 GMT -5 Walter said:

Sept 27, 2017 9:37:07 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Not the same thing, Track and Field is an individual sport. And if JS signs with Adidas, the school can't sign an exclusive deal with Nike or Under Armour, etc. Not to mention that often times head coaches get a big check for that apparel deal.

So what? Johnny has a Nike deal, your school has an Adidas deal, but Johnny can slam it with his left foot, is a nightly triple double threat with lockdown D talent and wants to commit to your school. What would you do? As AD, I renegotiate my apparel deal for the Bball program immediately.

And then after he's done in a yr? Ya I know change back. You must have been every mom's dream for their daughters, back in your dating years. (Hinting you're a MILF stalker)  

[daleko]

Sept 27, 2017 10:58:35 GMT -5 beuycek said:

Pitino is toast.. finally.

Yep, he's officially gone.

[oujour76]

Sept 27, 2017 10:02:29 GMT -5 Walter said:

Sept 27, 2017 9:37:07 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Not the same thing, Track and Field is an individual sport. And if JS signs with Adidas, the school can't sign an exclusive deal with Nike or Under Armour, etc. Not to mention that often times head coaches get a big check for that apparel deal.

So what? Johnny has a Nike deal, your school has an Adidas deal, but Johnny can slam it with his left foot, is a nightly triple double threat with lockdown D talent and wants to commit to your school. What would you do? As AD, I renegotiate my apparel deal for the Bball program immediately.

The "so what" is apparel companies only want exclusive deals with college teams and that includes shoes. A non-exclusive deal is worth less to the company and, in turn, the school gets less as well.

[Walter]

Sept 27, 2017 11:13:07 GMT -5 daleko said:

Sept 27, 2017 10:02:29 GMT -5 Walter said:

So what? Johnny has a Nike deal, your school has an Adidas deal, but Johnny can slam it with his left foot, is a nightly triple double threat with lockdown D talent and wants to commit to your school. What would you do? As AD, I renegotiate my apparel deal for the Bball program immediately.

And then after he's done in a yr? Ya I know change back. You must have been every mom's dream for their daughters, back in your dating years. (Hinting you're a MILF stalker)  

You are missing the point. The NCAA needs to change the nature of school apparel deals to cut off that conflict of interest. That is the problem, not the deal with the kid.
No school should be allowed to give out carte blanche exclusivity. A kid with a Nike deal should be free to play in his Nikes. If the school's deal is different, pound sand. Too bad. the kid's well-being should come before the school's or the apparel vendor's.

In a way, isn't that what the Lavar Ball escapades are all about?

[oujour76]

Sept 27, 2017 10:06:18 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

i saw the freeh hiring by usc.  i have a strange suspicion that whoever hired freeh will somehow avoid any scrutiny in whatever freeh finds.   

And I have a "sneakingier" (nice made up word, huh?) suspicion that the other schools are kicking themselves in the ass for not hiring Freeh first.