3 ucla BB Players Arrested - In China

[mscott59]

Nov 16, 2017 12:21:03 GMT -5 daleko said:

Nov 16, 2017 8:36:04 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

cowboy i know they were designer-wear. what they did was stupid, disrespectful anywhere, but especially so when in a foreign land, and how it hurts the reputation of americans abroad. that said, being kicked out of school would not be a punishment which fits the crime.

Not that I'm suggesting that getting suspended a week, month or for the season, ie a paid vacation of sorts, is an appropriate level but what kind of theft would suggest the harsher penalty of expulsion? Certainly at least one of these young men didn't come from a ghetto environment. But his father's casual attitude re the issue seems to indicate a lack of an appropriate concern.

In many schools felony theft is grounds for expulsion. Is grounds for scholarship loss. Should it make a difference what sport the athlete plays? Or the revenue that sport contributes?

Does credit card fraud allow disposal of the individual from the U? Is there a dollar figure you would agree to? How about illegally selling T-Shirts (ie Catholics V Convicts)? Or any illegal business?

They got lucky that the theft happened in China and not in Singapore, tied to a pole in a public square and whipped, or the Kingdom as they'd be thumbless today.

to be honest, i'm not sure. i heard coach k on the radio this week talking a little about the ucla thing and he said something interesting, focusing more on standards and less on rules w.his teams and players. i thought that made a lot of sense, in trying to say it's important to do the right thing as opposed to simply marching because someone told you you have to march. agree that their punishment could have been much worse in other countries. i think being convicted of a felony would certainly warrant expulsion. i think committing multiple misdemeanors, or an academic student code violation could certainly do the same. what do you think?

[daleko]

Nov 16, 2017 16:22:27 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Nov 16, 2017 12:21:03 GMT -5 daleko said:

Not that I'm suggesting that getting suspended a week, month or for the season, ie a paid vacation of sorts, is an appropriate level but what kind of theft would suggest the harsher penalty of expulsion? Certainly at least one of these young men didn't come from a ghetto environment. But his father's casual attitude re the issue seems to indicate a lack of an appropriate concern.

In many schools felony theft is grounds for expulsion. Is grounds for scholarship loss. Should it make a difference what sport the athlete plays? Or the revenue that sport contributes?

Does credit card fraud allow disposal of the individual from the U? Is there a dollar figure you would agree to? How about illegally selling T-Shirts (ie Catholics V Convicts)? Or any illegal business?

They got lucky that the theft happened in China and not in Singapore, tied to a pole in a public square and whipped, or the Kingdom as they'd be thumbless today.

to be honest, i'm not sure. i heard coach k on the radio this week talking a little about the ucla thing and he said something interesting, focusing more on standards and less on rules w.his teams and players. i thought that made a lot of sense, in trying to say it's important to do the right thing as opposed to simply marching because someone told you you have to march. agree that their punishment could have been much worse in other countries. i think being convicted of a felony would certainly warrant expulsion. i think committing multiple misdemeanors, or an academic student code violation could certainly do the same. what do you think?

We are talking felony theft in most states. And in this case, no one will be expelled. That's the reality.

Further, if anyone thinks this is the first and only time this has happened, well, they've bumped their heads. Chances are they've been dodging bullets for some time. At least once anyway.

What discipline is appropriate to help them grow and understand that this was extremely poor judgement, and is a BIG deal, no matter what your daddy thinks. Or your mother, auntie, sister, girlfriend. Growing up is about making or only being allowed to make little mistakes and learning from them. They made a big one and hopefully they learn. For me, they should be done for the semester permitting to begin again at the start of the second semester. If they lose the option of being a one and done because their 1 semester body of work isn't big enough, shrug. It'd cost them 5 mil in their back pocket but they can recover. I hope the glasses were worth it.

If Big Baller dad wants to get huffy, bye.