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Post by Walter on Mar 9, 2018 18:38:34 GMT -5
How does that prove me wrong? Are you somehow disarmed if you only have (let's take it to its extreme) a 2 round magazine? Do you not "bear" a firearm and continue to have that right? . Banning "assault weapons" and high cap magazines is only their opening gambit. Don't be so naive.
LOL....Like I said to Fred, if you can't use the "they want to take away our guns" argument, then it is pretty obvious that you don't have an argument at all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 18:40:40 GMT -5
I'm sure you can find Democrats who want to repeal it. I said MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. Heck, the poll showed a bunch of conservatives who wanted to repeal the 2nd A as well. But altogether, only about 1 in 10 strongly favor the idea, and if the NRA and gun nuts were not such unreasonable assholes it would probably be far lower than that. Face it. The NRA has become a fringe, far-right political organization in addition to being a gun-advocacy group, and you can tout all the gun-safety classes they operate that you want, but by politicizing the issue, they are hurting the 2A more than helping it. Heck, I might vote to repeal the 2nd A just to shut LaPierre and his cohorts up and see the dumbass look on their faces when it went down.
I can't believe you just wrote that. WHO politicizes the issue every time a gun is MISused, before the bodies are even stiff and cold? Gimme a break .........................
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Post by Walter on Mar 9, 2018 18:58:54 GMT -5
I'm sure you can find Democrats who want to repeal it. I said MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. Heck, the poll showed a bunch of conservatives who wanted to repeal the 2nd A as well. But altogether, only about 1 in 10 strongly favor the idea, and if the NRA and gun nuts were not such unreasonable assholes it would probably be far lower than that. Face it. The NRA has become a fringe, far-right political organization in addition to being a gun-advocacy group, and you can tout all the gun-safety classes they operate that you want, but by politicizing the issue, they are hurting the 2A more than helping it. Heck, I might vote to repeal the 2nd A just to shut LaPierre and his cohorts up and see the dumbass look on their faces when it went down.
I can't believe you just wrote that. WHO politicizes the issue every time a gun is MISused, before the bodies are even stiff and cold? Gimme a break .........................Go watch LaPierre's speech at CPAC this year. He spouts all sorts of right-wing BS, and barely says a word about guns at all. Now you may agree with him, but that is a problem for those of you who actually care about the 2ndA. He is taking you down a road where at the very least, half the country would vote against freaking Santa Claus if LaPierre endorsed him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 19:03:35 GMT -5
I can't believe you just wrote that. WHO politicizes the issue every time a gun is MISused, before the bodies are even stiff and cold? Gimme a break .........................Go watch LaPierre's speech at CPAC this year. He spouts all sorts of right-wing BS, and barely says a word about guns at all. Now you may agree with him, but that is a problem for those of you who actually care about the 2ndA. He is taking you down a road where at the very least, half the country would vote against freaking Santa Claus if LaPierre endorsed him. You don't get it, and you never will. Without the 2nd Amendment, you would lose the others.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 19:37:46 GMT -5
Of course you pop in with that stale old liberal screed... Prove me wrong. Post the name of ANY member of Congress in the entire history of this nation who has introduced legislation to repeal the 2nd A. Heck, for all you know, there might be one or two. LOL
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Post by Walter on Mar 9, 2018 19:47:49 GMT -5
Go watch LaPierre's speech at CPAC this year. He spouts all sorts of right-wing BS, and barely says a word about guns at all. Now you may agree with him, but that is a problem for those of you who actually care about the 2ndA. He is taking you down a road where at the very least, half the country would vote against freaking Santa Claus if LaPierre endorsed him. You don't get it, and you never will. Without the 2nd Amendment, you would lose the others.If Ol' Wayne stuck to that, he'd be on firmer ground. Here's a taste of his speech. You tell me how many hearts and minds of Democrats he's winning over to support our gun rights with this kind of thing. "...Obama's promised fundamental transformation of our country began with his own national party—a party that is now infested with saboteurs who don't believe in capitalism, don't believe in the Constitution, don't believe in our freedom and don't believe in America as we know it. Obama may be gone, but their utopian dream for America marches on.
And President Trump's election, while critical, can't turn away the wave of these new European-style socialists bearing down upon us. I’m not just talking about Bernie Sanders—he's near the end of his career.
Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Bill DeBlasio, Andrew Cuomo, Corey Booker, Christopher Murphy and Keith Ellison. They are not Democrats in the mold of John F. Kennedy or Tip O'Neill. They hide behind labels like "Democrat," "left-wing" and "progressive" to make their socialist agenda more palatable.
That is terrifying. And that should terrify every citizen who values the American ideal of individual liberty...."Like I said, you may totally agree with him. I get that. But if you're trying to get ME to help you and him to protect gun rights, you better tell Ol' Wayne to STFU with the right-wing BS, or like I said, I might vote for MORE gun laws just to piss you both off.
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Post by daleko on Mar 9, 2018 20:47:24 GMT -5
Of course you pop in with that stale old liberal screed... Prove me wrong. Post the name of ANY member of Congress in the entire history of this nation who has introduced legislation to repeal the 2nd A. Heck, for all you know, there might be one or two. Repealing it would be a heavy lift but to answer your Q, I seem to remember a NY toadstool who did in the 103rd Session of Congress circa '93 or so. I'll look it up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 20:48:38 GMT -5
NRA's already filing a lawsuit in FL. You can bet there's a good reason. (Hint: it's not because they love dead children)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 21:17:27 GMT -5
NRA's already filing a lawsuit in FL. You can bet there's a good reason. (Hint: it's not because they love dead children) It's because they love dead children
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 21:18:14 GMT -5
NRA's already filing a lawsuit in FL. You can bet there's a good reason. (Hint: it's not because they love dead children) It's because they love dead children According to Mike according to them...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 21:19:10 GMT -5
It's because they love dead children According to Mike according to them... Guns or kids. Guns every time and twice on Sunday
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 21:21:44 GMT -5
According to Mike according to them... Guns or kids. Guns every time and twice on Sunday I'll send them over to your house to test your 'theory'...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 21:22:49 GMT -5
Guns or kids. Guns every time and twice on Sunday I'll send them over to your house to test your 'theory'... Sorry. No guns allowed in my house. Not now. Not ever.
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Post by daleko on Mar 9, 2018 21:58:20 GMT -5
Prove me wrong. Post the name of ANY member of Congress in the entire history of this nation who has introduced legislation to repeal the 2nd A. Heck, for all you know, there might be one or two. Repealing it would be a heavy lift but to answer your Q, I seem to remember a NY toadstool who did in the 103rd Session of Congress circa '93 or so. I'll look it up.103D CONGRESS 1ST SESSION H. J. RES. 81 Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States repealing the Second Amendment to the Constitution.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 22:05:21 GMT -5
Repealing it would be a heavy lift but to answer your Q, I seem to remember a NY toadstool who did in the 103rd Session of Congress circa '93 or so. I'll look it up. 103D CONGRESS 1ST SESSION H. J. RES. 81 Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States repealing the Second Amendment to the Constitution. So Walt's been making shit up this whole time? Say it ain't so!!
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