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Post by oujour76 on Jun 4, 2019 15:15:46 GMT -5
Dung-head,
While we're all waiting for Walter to respond to the list of WTC witnesses he demanded to see, perhaps you can answer a simple, critical question for us.
How did the Israeli Mossad agents described by witnesses-- and seen celebrating in the photos above-- know that the WTC towers were going to be demolished on 9/11?
Put on your pointy white thinking cap and explain.
(And, lest you dissemble further, we have film clips of these Mossad agents later admitting on Israeli television that they were in Liberty Park on 9/11 to "document" the WTC demolitions.)
So, can you produce even one person that can testify under oath that they saw CIA or Israeli agents planting explosives? Thousands of people passed through those buildings day and night. Surely at least one of them hasn't been eliminated by the CIA. CIA wouldn't kill them, my guess is they are all stashed at Mohammed Atta's house.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 15:38:25 GMT -5
So, can you produce even one person that can testify under oath that they saw CIA or Israeli agents planting explosives? Thousands of people passed through those buildings day and night. Surely at least one of them hasn't been eliminated by the CIA. CIA wouldn't kill them, my guess is they are all stashed at Mohammed Atta's house. Nice attempted dodge, fellas. Now, back to the critical question you just dodged. How did the "Dancing Israeli" Mossad agents arrested in NYC on 9/11 know that the WTC towers were going to be demolished on 9/11?
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Post by oujour76 on Jun 4, 2019 16:07:58 GMT -5
CIA wouldn't kill them, my guess is they are all stashed at Mohammed Atta's house. Nice attempted dodge, fellas. Now, back to the critical question you just dodged. How did the "Dancing Israeli" Mossad agents arrested in NYC on 9/11 know that the WTC towers were going to be demolished on 9/11? Does it seem odd to you that undercover Mossad agents would paint a van with an airliner going into the WTC and park it on the street prior to the actual attack, as has been alleged? Seems odd to me. Unbelievable, really.
Does it also seem odd that undercover agents would make themselves conspicuous by dancing around? Any idea why they would do such a thing?
Finally, why would undercover Mossad agents allow themselves to be caught and arrested? I've never worked for Mossad, but I'll go out on a limb here and say the prime objective in an undercover operation is stay low and don't get caught. Yet, these guys did just the opposite. Why?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 16:27:40 GMT -5
Nice attempted dodge, fellas. Now, back to the critical question you just dodged. How did the "Dancing Israeli" Mossad agents arrested in NYC on 9/11 know that the WTC towers were going to be demolished on 9/11? Does it seem odd to you that undercover Mossad agents would paint a van with an airliner going into the WTC and park it on the street prior to the actual attack, as has been alleged? Seems odd to me. Unbelievable, really.
Does it also seem odd that undercover agents would make themselves conspicuous by dancing around? Any idea why they would do such a thing?
Finally, why would undercover Mossad agents allow themselves to be caught and arrested? I've never worked for Mossad, but I'll go out on a limb here and say the prime objective in an undercover operation is stay low and don't get caught. Yet, these guys did just the opposite. Why?
It happened. They were seen filming and celebrating the demolitions of the WTC from Liberty Park by multiple American witnesses. My hunch is that these young Mossad demolition guys working for Dominick Suter and the Urban Moving Systems Mossad front in Weehawken had a narcissistic sense of invulnerability. They were raised to think that they were far too clever and superior a race to be caught by the stupid goyish Americans. The Israelis called 9/11 the "Wedding"-- the black op that would unite the U.S. with Israel, against Israel's Muslim enemies.
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Post by daleko on Jun 4, 2019 17:11:44 GMT -5
www.911myths.com/html/dancing_israelis.htmlIn 3-2-1, Willie will post this is a CIA disinformation site. This is classical Willie and other conspiracy sources. Take a piece of truth, add, as fact, something that isn't and move on to adding more "fact", which isn't. It's been estimated 500,000 people were taking pics and movies of the TTs after the first plane hit.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 18:06:23 GMT -5
Does it seem odd to you that undercover Mossad agents would paint a van with an airliner going into the WTC and park it on the street prior to the actual attack, as has been alleged? Seems odd to me. Unbelievable, really.
Does it also seem odd that undercover agents would make themselves conspicuous by dancing around? Any idea why they would do such a thing?
Finally, why would undercover Mossad agents allow themselves to be caught and arrested? I've never worked for Mossad, but I'll go out on a limb here and say the prime objective in an undercover operation is stay low and don't get caught. Yet, these guys did just the opposite. Why?
It happened. They were seen filming and celebrating the demolitions of the WTC from Liberty Park by multiple American witnesses. My hunch is that these young Mossad demolition guys working for Dominick Suter and the Urban Moving Systems Mossad front in Weehawken had a narcissistic sense of invulnerability. They were raised to think that they were far too clever and superior a race to be caught by the stupid goyish Americans. The Israelis called 9/11 the "Wedding"-- the black op that would unite the U.S. with Israel, against Israel's Muslim enemies. This FOIA-acquired FBI data is too important to allow Daleko to hijack the thread.
I want to hear Harry and Cowboy answer the critical question above.
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Post by daleko on Jun 4, 2019 22:11:07 GMT -5
It happened. They were seen filming and celebrating the demolitions of the WTC from Liberty Park by multiple American witnesses. My hunch is that these young Mossad demolition guys working for Dominick Suter and the Urban Moving Systems Mossad front in Weehawken had a narcissistic sense of invulnerability. They were raised to think that they were far too clever and superior a race to be caught by the stupid goyish Americans. The Israelis called 9/11 the "Wedding"-- the black op that would unite the U.S. with Israel, against Israel's Muslim enemies. This FOIA-acquired FBI data is too important to allow Daleko to hijack the thread.
I want to hear Harry and Cowboy answer the critical question above. How did the Israeli Mossad agents described by multiple American witnesses-- and seen celebrating in the photos above-- know that the WTC towers were going to be demolished on 9/11?
They didn't Willie. Read the link. Your conspirator cartels and you have had 18 yrs to refine the tale. Each year you add "facts" to build on already made up "facts". Off course, they aren't facts. In this case they didn't know. Read through all of the sections within the link. It covers most of your fictional adventures. Hijack? Hardly. Your positions re 9/11 are misguided and have been for some time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 0:00:04 GMT -5
It happened. They were seen filming and celebrating the demolitions of the WTC from Liberty Park by multiple American witnesses. My hunch is that these young Mossad demolition guys working for Dominick Suter and the Urban Moving Systems Mossad front in Weehawken had a narcissistic sense of invulnerability. They were raised to think that they were far too clever and superior a race to be caught by the stupid goyish Americans. The Israelis called 9/11 the "Wedding"-- the black op that would unite the U.S. with Israel, against Israel's Muslim enemies. This FOIA-acquired FBI data is too important to allow Daleko to hijack the thread.
I want to hear Harry and Cowboy answer the critical question above.
11 hours and counting since I posted the question for Cowboy, Harry, and the forum. The FBI evidence, and their own testimony on Israeli television, proves that the "Dancing Israeli" Mossad agents arrested on 9/11 in NYC knew that the WTC towers were going to be demolished. How did they know? And why were they celebrating? And why did their Urban Moving Systems employer Dominick Suter flee to Israel before the FBI could question him? ANSWER THE QUESTION, FELLAS.
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Post by AlaCowboy on Jun 5, 2019 8:41:49 GMT -5
Dung-head,
While we're all waiting for Walter to respond to the list of WTC witnesses he demanded to see, perhaps you can answer a simple, critical question for us.
How did the Israeli Mossad agents described by witnesses-- and seen celebrating in the photos above-- know that the WTC towers were going to be demolished on 9/11?
Put on your pointy white thinking cap and explain.
(And, lest you dissemble further, we have film clips of these Mossad agents later admitting on Israeli television that they were in Liberty Park on 9/11 to "document" the WTC demolitions.)
You're waiting for me? Oh... So are you claiming that elevator repair is evidence of explosives being installed? LOL...Okay. I was thinking about the real danger this morning as I read the sign at the downtown building dept building, (twin towers it turns out) saying the north bank of elevators was closed for upgrade and repair.. Then I realized that elevator inspection is required by code, and felt a wave of relief. Ahh. But is that some secret Mossad/CIA code for the explosive experts?
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Post by Walter on Jun 5, 2019 8:45:51 GMT -5
This FOIA-acquired FBI data is too important to allow Daleko to hijack the thread.
I want to hear Harry and Cowboy answer the critical question above. 11 hours and counting since I posted the question for Cowboy, Harry, and the forum. The FBI evidence, and their own testimony on Israeli television, proves that the "Dancing Israeli" Mossad agents arrested on 9/11 in NYC knew that the WTC towers were going to be demolished. How did they know? And why were they celebrating? And why did their Urban Moving Systems employer Dominick Suter flee to Israel before the FBI could question him? ANSWER THE QUESTION, FELLAS. It was answered.
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Post by AlaCowboy on Jun 5, 2019 8:48:39 GMT -5
Does it seem odd to you that undercover Mossad agents would paint a van with an airliner going into the WTC and park it on the street prior to the actual attack, as has been alleged? Seems odd to me. Unbelievable, really.
Does it also seem odd that undercover agents would make themselves conspicuous by dancing around? Any idea why they would do such a thing?
Finally, why would undercover Mossad agents allow themselves to be caught and arrested? I've never worked for Mossad, but I'll go out on a limb here and say the prime objective in an undercover operation is stay low and don't get caught. Yet, these guys did just the opposite. Why?
It happened. They were seen filming and celebrating the demolitions of the WTC from Liberty Park by multiple American witnesses. My hunch is that these young Mossad demolition guys working for Dominick Suter and the Urban Moving Systems Mossad front in Weehawken had a narcissistic sense of invulnerability.They were raised to think that they were far too clever and superior a race to be caught by the stupid goyish Americans. The Israelis called 9/11 the "Wedding"-- the black op that would unite the U.S. with Israel, against Israel's Muslim enemies. Well, I reckon a narcissist like you can easily recognize a fellow traveler.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 11:41:18 GMT -5
22 hours and counting...
Cowboy, Harry, Walter, and Daleko have still not answered the BIG QUESTION.
All they have done is post deflective comments and inaccurate claims.
Here's the BIG QUESTION again...
It is a well-documented (and photographed) FACT that the "Dancing Israeli" Mossad agents arrested in NYC on 9/11 were in Liberty Park, New Jersey filming and celebrating the WTC demolitions on 9/11.
The Israelis even announced on Israeli T.V. that they were in Liberty Park to "document the event."
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Post by Walter on Jun 5, 2019 13:16:09 GMT -5
22 hours and counting... Cowboy, Harry, Walter, and Daleko have still not answered the BIG QUESTION.
All they have done is post deflective comments and inaccurate claims.
Here's the BIG QUESTION again...
It is a well-documented (and photographed) FACT that the "Dancing Israeli" Mossad agents arrested in NYC on 9/11 were in Liberty Park, New Jersey filming and celebrating the WTC demolitions on 9/11.
The Israelis even announced on Israeli T.V. that they were in Liberty Park to "document the event." www.911myths.com/html/dancing_israelis.htmlDeal with it.
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Post by daleko on Jun 5, 2019 13:20:39 GMT -5
22 hours and counting... Cowboy, Harry, Walter, and Daleko have still not answered the BIG QUESTION.
All they have done is post deflective comments and inaccurate claims.
Here's the BIG QUESTION again...
It is a well-documented (and photographed) FACT that the "Dancing Israeli" Mossad agents arrested in NYC on 9/11 were in Liberty Park, New Jersey filming and celebrating the WTC demolitions on 9/11.
The Israelis even announced on Israeli T.V. that they were in Liberty Park to "document the event." THEY DIDN'T KNOW. www.911myths.com/html/dancing_israelis.html
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 16:10:48 GMT -5
22 hours and counting... Cowboy, Harry, Walter, and Daleko have still not answered the BIG QUESTION.
All they have done is post deflective comments and inaccurate claims.
Here's the BIG QUESTION again...
It is a well-documented (and photographed) FACT that the "Dancing Israeli" Mossad agents arrested in NYC on 9/11 were in Liberty Park, New Jersey filming and celebrating the WTC demolitions on 9/11.
The Israelis even announced on Israeli T.V. that they were in Liberty Park to "document the event." www.911myths.com/html/dancing_israelis.htmlDeal with it.
WALTER HAS POSTED DEBUNKED 9/11 DISINFORMATION
HERE ARE THE ACTUAL PROVEN FACTS-- WITH PHOTOS... Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks
New information released by the FBI has brought fresh scrutiny to the possibility that the “Dancing Israelis,” at least two of whom were known Mossad operatives, had prior knowledge of the attacks on the World Trade Center.
For nearly two decades, one of the most overlooked and little known arrests made in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks was that of the so-called “High Fivers,” or the “Dancing Israelis.” However, new information released by the FBI on May 7 has brought fresh scrutiny to the possibility that the “Dancing Israelis,” at least two of whom were known Mossad operatives, had prior knowledge of the attacks on the World Trade Center.
Shortly after 8:46 a.m. on the day of the attacks, just minutes after the first plane struck the World Trade Center, five men — later revealed to be Israeli nationals — had positioned themselves in the parking lot of the Doric Apartment Complex in Union City, New Jersey, where they were seen taking pictures and filming the attacks while also celebrating the destruction of the towers and “high fiving” each other. At least one eyewitness interviewed by the FBI had seen the Israelis’ van in the parking lot as early as 8:00 a.m. that day, more than 40 minutes prior to the attack. The story received coverage in U.S. mainstream media at the time but has since been largely forgotten.
The men — Sivan Kurzberg, Paul Kurzberg, Oded Ellner, Yaron Shimuel and Omar Marmari — were subsequently apprehended by law enforcement and claimed to be Israeli tourists on a “working holiday” in the United States where they were employed by a moving company, Urban Moving Systems. Upon his arrest, Sivan Kurzberg told the arresting officer, “We are Israeli; we are not your problem. Your problems are our problems, The Palestinians are the problem.”
For years, the official story has been that these individuals, while they had engaged in “immature” behavior by celebrating and being “visibly happy” in their documenting of the attacks, had no prior knowledge of the attack. However, newly released FBI copies of the photos taken by the five Israelis strongly suggest that these individuals had prior knowledge of the attacks
According to a former high-ranking American intelligence official who spoke to the Jewish Daily Forward in 2002, the FBI concluded in its investigation that the five Israelis arrested “were conducting a Mossad surveillance mission and that their employer, Urban Moving Systems of Weehawken, NJ, served as a front.” At least two of the men arrested were determined to have direct links to the Mossad after their names appeared in a CIA-FBI database of foreign intelligence operatives. According to one of their lawyers, one of the men, Paul Kurzberg, had previously worked for the Mossad in another country prior to arriving in the United States. Another of those arrested, Oded Ellner, subsequently stated on Israeli TV that the five Israelis had been in New York at the time “to document the event,” meaning the attack on the World Trade Center.
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The FOIA release of the photos is notable because responses to prior FOIA requests to the Department of Justice, which oversees the FBI, had previously claimed that all of the photos taken by the Israeli nationals had been destroyed in January 2014. The photos themselves are heavily redacted, making it impossible to see the Israelis’ facial expressions. However, previously declassified yet heavily redacted FBI reports state that the Israelis are “visibly happy” in nearly every photo, even when the burning towers are in the background. The photos released are also not original copies and instead appear to be photocopies of photocopies of the original pictures. In addition, of the original 76 pictures developed by authorities from the camera in the Israelis’ possession, only 14 were released.
However, three of these photos — despite the heavy redaction and poor quality — are damning. Since 2001, even though the photos were never released until now, it had been known that one of the Israelis arrested — Sivan Kurzberg — was seen in a photo “holding a lighted lighter in the foreground, with the smoldering wreckage [of the twin towers] in the background,” according to Steven Noah Gordon, then-lawyer for the five Israelis, as cited in a New York Times report from November 2001.
The picture of Kurzberg with the lit lighter appears to be photo #5 in the new FOIA release. Yet, the picture released includes a visible date of September 10, 2001, the day before the attacks, as do two other photos — images #7 and #8 in the collection — whereas all other photos with dates show only the month and the year (9 ‘01). The FOIA release did not provide any information as to the apparent discrepancy in dates.
While this could be explained away as the camera in question being programmed with a slightly inaccurate date, that doesn’t seem to be the case for two reasons. First, only two out of the 14 pictures carry that date and, second, previously declassified FBI reports report an eyewitness adamantly stating that Sivan Kurzberg had visited the Doric Apartments on September 10, 2001 at around 3 p.m. with at least one other man, with whom he was conversing in a foreign language, and had identified himself as a “construction worker” to a tenant (page 61 of declassified FBI report).
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