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Post by Walter on Sept 15, 2019 13:41:29 GMT -5
And he deleted my second post now complaining about Nied-erhut's posts still being up... Unreal. At least he didn't delete your post, Cowboy. No...you have not. Quit lying. |
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3. All posts that cite a statistic or some statement by a person or entity must have a link to where the information or quote can be found. Posts or threads that violate these rules will either be deleted or moved to the wilder old politics board. Think you guys can do this?
We'll see.Read more: aolcfboutcasts.proboards.com/thread/37294/ol-college#ixzz5zYxwQmg9Obviously some of us can, but Walter and Nie der hut are not in that group.Willie fulfilled the requirement. He posted a link. Unfortunately for him, that requirement is thew undoing of his claim. Geez, Walter, let's review the facts one more time-- for delusional Cowboy Ra mey. (I'll omit the "football" scores.) 1) Both Robert Mueller and Dick Cheney admitted that there was no hard evidence linking Bin Laden to 9/11. Correct? 2) Osama Bin Laden denied in a September 16, 2001 Al Jazeera statement that he was involved in the 9/11 attacks. Correct? 3) Paul Bremer, Ehud Barak, and Henry Kissinger all mentioned Bin Laden, or "Bin Laden's organization" as suspects in 9/11 televised interviews. Correct? 4-0 |
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Post by Walter on Sept 15, 2019 15:23:09 GMT -5
Willie fulfilled the requirement. He posted a link. Unfortunately for him, that requirement is thew undoing of his claim. Geez, Walter, let's review the facts one more time-- for delusional Cowboy Ra mey. (I'll omit the "football" scores.) 1) Both Robert Mueller and Dick Cheney admitted that there was no hard evidence linking Bin Laden to 9/11. Correct? 2) Osama Bin Laden denied in a September 16, 2001 Al Jazeera statement that he was involved in the 9/11 attacks. Correct? 3) Paul Bremer, Ehud Barak, and Henry Kissinger all mentioned Bin Laden, or "Bin Laden's organization" as suspects in 9/11 televised interviews. Correct? 4-0 1. You have not posted Mueller or Cheney's statements. Show me where, dates and context. 2. You have not posted the AlJ statement. Post it. All you've posted so far is the Paki interview. And BTW, BFD if he denied it. So did OJ. 3. My cat mentioned Bin Laden as a suspect. So what? |
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Post by AlaCowboy on Sept 15, 2019 19:05:29 GMT -5
He's deleted plenty in the past. He has even used his Moderator status to alter some of my posts. I even caught him editing one of my posts to change some words. No...you have not. Quit lying. |
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No...you have not. Quit lying. I do remember your protestations at the time. |
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Post by AlaCowboy on Sept 15, 2019 21:07:13 GMT -5
Not lying. You edited one of my posts and your name was listed on the line for edited time. If I could go back farther than 8 months on my profile I would find it and post it. I called it to your attention at the time. I'm sure others remember. I do remember your protestations at the time. |
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Fact #2: FBI Director Robert Mueller later told Congress that he and the FBI "never found a single scrap of paper" linking Bin Laden to 9/11. Nor was he charged with a crime by the FBI.
Fact #3: Dick Cheney later admitted that evidence implicating Bin Laden in the 9/11 attacks "was never forthcoming."
FBI: Bin Laden Not Wanted for 9/11
The 'FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11'. Vice President Cheney says, 'We've never made the case, or argued the case, that somehow Osama Bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11'
by Enver Masud
The FBI's "Most Wanted Terrorists" web page does not state that Bin Laden is wanted for the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
The FBI page states: "Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world."
When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on the FBI's web page, Rex Tomb, the FBI's Chief of Investigative Publicity, is reported to have said, "The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11."
In the months leading up to the Septmber 11, 2001 attack, it is reported, the Taliban "outlined various ways bin Laden could be dealt with. He could be turned over to the EU, killed by the Taliban, or made available as a target for Cruise missiles." The Bush administration did not accept the Taliban's offer.
On September 16, 2001, CNN reported that in a statement issued to Al Jazeera, bin Laden said, "I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks".
"On September 20, 2001," according to the Guardian, "the Taliban offered to hand Osama bin Laden to a neutral Islamic country for trial if the US presented them with evidence that he was responsible for the attacks on New York and Washington. The US rejected the offer."
On September 23, 2001 the BBC reported that four of the hijack "suspects" - Waleed Al Shehri, Abdulaziz Al Omari, Saeed Alghamdi, and possibly Khalid Al Midhar - were alive, and that FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged "the identity of several of the suicide hijackers is in doubt."
Bin Laden, in a September 28, 2001 interview with the Pakistani newspaper Ummat, is reported to have said:
I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle.
Experts dismiss the video tape "found in a house in Jalalabad", Afghanistan, which allegedly shows Bin Laden confessing to the September 11 attacks. In a December 20, 2001, broadcast by German TV channel Das Erste "two independent translators and an expert on oriental studies found the White House's translation not only to be inaccurate, but manipulative."
FBI Director Robert Mueller, in a speech at the Commonwealth Club on April 19, 2002, said: "In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper - either here in the United States, or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere - that mentioned any aspect of the September 11 plot."
In fact there are no Arab names on the list of passengers on the 9/11 flights (AA11, AA77, UA93, UA175).
Yet on September 12, 2001 ABC News reported that "investigators have identified all the hijackers". Among those identified was "Satan Suqami, a Saudi national on American Airlines Flight 11, whose passport was recovered in the rubble."
Bin Laden is the "prime suspect" in the September 11 attacks, said President Bush on September 17, 2001, and he pledged to capture him "dead or alive."
"I am absolutely convinced that the al-Qaida network, which he heads, was responsible for this attack," Secretary of State Colin Powell said on NBC's "Meet the Press."
Powell said the government would "put before the world, the American people, a persuasive case that ... it is al-Qaida, led by Osama bin Laden, who has been responsible."
On October 7, 2001, the U.S. military began operation Operation Enduring Freedom - a war on Afghanistan.
The evidence against Bin Laden, promised by Secretary of State Colin Powell on September 23, 2001, has yet to be made available to the public.
On March 29, 2006, on The Tony Snow Show, Vice President Dick Cheney stated: "We've never made the case, or argued the case, that somehow Osama Bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming."
Back on September 16, 2001, Cheney had said he would willingly accept bin Laden's "head on a platter".
9/11 Facts, History — Not Propaganda
Re-posting these dates and quotes by Mueller and Cheney for Walter. Walt, you obviously missed these facts the first time I posted them yesterday. |
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Post by Walter on Sept 16, 2019 4:55:16 GMT -5
Fact #2: FBI Director Robert Mueller later told Congress that he and the FBI "never found a single scrap of paper" linking Bin Laden to 9/11. Nor was he charged with a crime by the FBI.
Fact #3: Dick Cheney later admitted that evidence implicating Bin Laden in the 9/11 attacks "was never forthcoming."
FBI: Bin Laden Not Wanted for 9/11
The 'FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11'. Vice President Cheney says, 'We've never made the case, or argued the case, that somehow Osama Bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11'
by Enver Masud
The FBI's "Most Wanted Terrorists" web page does not state that Bin Laden is wanted for the September 11, 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
The FBI page states: "Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world."
When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on the FBI's web page, Rex Tomb, the FBI's Chief of Investigative Publicity, is reported to have said, "The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11."
In the months leading up to the Septmber 11, 2001 attack, it is reported, the Taliban "outlined various ways bin Laden could be dealt with. He could be turned over to the EU, killed by the Taliban, or made available as a target for Cruise missiles." The Bush administration did not accept the Taliban's offer.
On September 16, 2001, CNN reported that in a statement issued to Al Jazeera, bin Laden said, "I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks".
"On September 20, 2001," according to the Guardian, "the Taliban offered to hand Osama bin Laden to a neutral Islamic country for trial if the US presented them with evidence that he was responsible for the attacks on New York and Washington. The US rejected the offer."
On September 23, 2001 the BBC reported that four of the hijack "suspects" - Waleed Al Shehri, Abdulaziz Al Omari, Saeed Alghamdi, and possibly Khalid Al Midhar - were alive, and that FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged "the identity of several of the suicide hijackers is in doubt."
Bin Laden, in a September 28, 2001 interview with the Pakistani newspaper Ummat, is reported to have said:
I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle.
Experts dismiss the video tape "found in a house in Jalalabad", Afghanistan, which allegedly shows Bin Laden confessing to the September 11 attacks. In a December 20, 2001, broadcast by German TV channel Das Erste "two independent translators and an expert on oriental studies found the White House's translation not only to be inaccurate, but manipulative."
FBI Director Robert Mueller, in a speech at the Commonwealth Club on April 19, 2002, said: "In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper - either here in the United States, or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere - that mentioned any aspect of the September 11 plot."
In fact there are no Arab names on the list of passengers on the 9/11 flights (AA11, AA77, UA93, UA175).
Yet on September 12, 2001 ABC News reported that "investigators have identified all the hijackers". Among those identified was "Satan Suqami, a Saudi national on American Airlines Flight 11, whose passport was recovered in the rubble."
Bin Laden is the "prime suspect" in the September 11 attacks, said President Bush on September 17, 2001, and he pledged to capture him "dead or alive."
"I am absolutely convinced that the al-Qaida network, which he heads, was responsible for this attack," Secretary of State Colin Powell said on NBC's "Meet the Press."
Powell said the government would "put before the world, the American people, a persuasive case that ... it is al-Qaida, led by Osama bin Laden, who has been responsible."
On October 7, 2001, the U.S. military began operation Operation Enduring Freedom - a war on Afghanistan.
The evidence against Bin Laden, promised by Secretary of State Colin Powell on September 23, 2001, has yet to be made available to the public.
On March 29, 2006, on The Tony Snow Show, Vice President Dick Cheney stated: "We've never made the case, or argued the case, that somehow Osama Bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming."
Back on September 16, 2001, Cheney had said he would willingly accept bin Laden's "head on a platter".
9/11 Facts, History — Not Propaganda
Re-posting these dates and quotes by Mueller and Cheney for Walter. Walt, you obviously missed these facts the first time I posted them yesterday. Mueller's comments, in context: "What emerged from our massive investigation was a sobering portrait of 19 hijackers who carried out their attacks with meticulous planning, extraordinary secrecy, and extensive knowledge of how America works. The plans were hatched and financed overseas, beginning as long as five years ago. Each of the hijackers came from abroad: fifteen from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, and one each from Lebanon and Egypt. All 19 entered our country legally, and only three had overstayed the legal limits of their visas on the day of the attacks. While here, the hijackers did all they could to stay below our radar. They contacted no known terrorist sympathizers. They committed no egregious crimes. They dressed and acted like Americans, shopping and eating at places like Wal-Mart and Pizza Hut, blending into the woodwork all the while. When four got speeding tickets in the days leading up to September 11th, they remained calm and aroused no suspicion. Since none were known terrorists, law enforcement had no reason to question or detain them. The hijackers also left no paper trail. In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper – either here in the U.S. or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere – that mentioned any aspect of the September 11th plot. The hijackers had no computers, no laptops, no storage media of any kind. They used hundreds of different pay phones and cell phones, often with prepaid calling cards that are extremely difficult to trace. And they made sure that all the money sent to them to fund their attacks was wired in small amounts to avoid detection. In short, the terrorists had managed to exploit loopholes and vulnerabilities in our systems, to stay out of sight, and to not let anyone know what they were up to beyond a very closed circle. The investigation was enormously helpful in figuring out who and what to look for as we worked to prevent attacks. It allowed us to see where we as a nation needed to close gaps in our security. And it gave us clear and definitive proof that al Qaeda was behind the strikes." So Mueller's comments, in context, tell a completely different story than conspiracy kooks hope to portray. You, of course, have never read his speech to the Commonwealth Club. Just as you have never read the NIST report, you rely on assholes who want your clicks to lie for you. You are a stupid, brainless robot. Nothing more. |
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Post by Walter on Sept 16, 2019 5:00:48 GMT -5
Speaking of that report, how are you coming along with your reading of the NIST report about the collapse of WTC7?
Have you finished studying it yet?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 10:54:26 GMT -5
Speaking of that report, how are you coming along with your reading of the NIST report about the collapse of WTC7? Have you finished studying it yet? Read my response on the History board.
The NIST Report never even tried to explain how the 47 floor steel WTC7 skyscraper collapsed in an abrupt, symmetrical free fall on 9/11-- right after the owner, Larry Silverstein, "told them to pull it."
Who is "THEM?" Not the NYFD, according to the NYFD.
And Bibi Netanyahu's good friend Larry Silverstein already had architectural plans for a new WTC7 drafted BEFORE 9/11.
As for the Cheney and Mueller quotes -- with dates-- I'll re-post them a THIRD TIME for you and Cowboy Ra mey.
PAY ATTENTION THIS TIME. Perhaps the THIRD TIME will be the charm for the light bulbs to finally turn on in your heads.
TWO FACTS FOR WALLY & RA MEY
I. On March 29, 2006, on The Tony Snow Show, Vice President Dick Cheney stated: "We've never made the case, or argued the case, that somehow Osama Bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming."
II. FBI Director Robert Mueller, in a speech at the Commonwealth Club on April 19, 2002, said: "In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper - either here in the United States, or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere - that mentioned any aspect of the September 11 plot."
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Post by Walter on Sept 16, 2019 11:09:39 GMT -5
Speaking of that report, how are you coming along with your reading of the NIST report about the collapse of WTC7? Have you finished studying it yet? Read my response on the History board. The NIST Report never even tried to explain how the 47 floor steel WTC7 skyscraper collapsed in an abrupt, symmetrical free fall on 9/11-- right after the owner, Larry Silverstein, "told them to pull it." Who is "THEM?" Not the NYFD, according to the NYFD. And Bibi Netanyahu's good friend Larry Silverstein already had architectural plans for a new WTC7 drafted BEFORE 9/11. As for the Cheney and Mueller quotes -- with dates-- I'll re-post them a THIRD TIME for you and Cowboy Ra mey. PAY ATTENTION THIS TIME. Perhaps the THIRD TIME will be the charm for the light bulbs to finally turn on in your heads. TWO FACTS FOR WALLY & RA MEY
I. On March 29, 2006, on The Tony Snow Show, Vice President Dick Cheney stated: "We've never made the case, or argued the case, that somehow Osama Bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming."
II. FBI Director Robert Mueller, in a speech at the Commonwealth Club on April 19, 2002, said: "In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper - either here in the United States, or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere - that mentioned any aspect of the September 11 plot."
I posted Mueller's speech in context. Why haven't you addressed it? What are you afraid of? Here they are again: "What emerged from our massive investigation was a sobering portrait of 19 hijackers who carried out their attacks with meticulous planning, extraordinary secrecy, and extensive knowledge of how America works.
The plans were hatched and financed overseas, beginning as long as five years ago. Each of the hijackers came from abroad: fifteen from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, and one each from Lebanon and Egypt. All 19 entered our country legally, and only three had overstayed the legal limits of their visas on the day of the attacks.
While here, the hijackers did all they could to stay below our radar. They contacted no known terrorist sympathizers. They committed no egregious crimes. They dressed and acted like Americans, shopping and eating at places like Wal-Mart and Pizza Hut, blending into the woodwork all the while. When four got speeding tickets in the days leading up to September 11th, they remained calm and aroused no suspicion. Since none were known terrorists, law enforcement had no reason to question or detain them.
The hijackers also left no paper trail. In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper – either here in the U.S. or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere – that mentioned any aspect of the September 11th plot. The hijackers had no computers, no laptops, no storage media of any kind. They used hundreds of different pay phones and cell phones, often with prepaid calling cards that are extremely difficult to trace. And they made sure that all the money sent to them to fund their attacks was wired in small amounts to avoid detection.
In short, the terrorists had managed to exploit loopholes and vulnerabilities in our systems, to stay out of sight, and to not let anyone know what they were up to beyond a very closed circle.
The investigation was enormously helpful in figuring out who and what to look for as we worked to prevent attacks. It allowed us to see where we as a nation needed to close gaps in our security. And it gave us clear and definitive proof that al Qaeda was behind the strikes." |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 11:26:04 GMT -5
Wally, did you get those two dates for the Cheney and Mueller quotes you requested?
March 29, 2006?
April 29, 2002?
Yes or no?
Did you get the September 16, 2001 date for Osama Bin Laden's Al Jazeera statement denying involvement in the 9/11 attacks?
Yes or no?
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Post by Walter on Sept 16, 2019 11:59:43 GMT -5
Wally, did you get those two dates for the Cheney and Mueller quotes you requested?
March 29, 2006?
April 29, 2002?
Yes or no?
Did you get the September 16, 2001 date for Osama Bin Laden's Al Jazeera statement denying involvement in the 9/11 attacks?
Yes or no?
Did you read Mueller's speech in its entirety? Of course you didn't. Like everything else you never read about 9/11...and it's becoming apparent that what you haven't read on the subject is voluminous. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 13:19:12 GMT -5
Wally, did you get those two dates for the Cheney and Mueller quotes you requested?
March 29, 2006?
April 29, 2002?
Yes or no?
Did you get the September 16, 2001 date for Osama Bin Laden's Al Jazeera statement denying involvement in the 9/11 attacks?
Yes or no?
Did you read Mueller's speech in its entirety? Of course you didn't. Like everything else you never read about 9/11...and it's becoming apparent that what you haven't read on the subject is voluminous. Quit moving the goal posts, Wally. We were discussing the 4 Facts I posted toward the top of the thread. Do you admit that Bin Laden, Cheney, and Mueller made the statements above-- facts 1, 2, and 3? Yea or nay? As for 9/11, you're years behind me in studying and understanding what happened. In fact, you're persistently, willfully ignorant about 9/11. It's frightening, especially considering that you know more about 9/11 than the other guys on the forum. |
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Post by Walter on Sept 16, 2019 13:48:21 GMT -5
Did you read Mueller's speech in its entirety? Of course you didn't. Like everything else you never read about 9/11...and it's becoming apparent that what you haven't read on the subject is voluminous. Quit moving the goal posts, Wally. We were discussing the 4 Facts I posted toward the top of the thread. Do you admit that Bin Laden, Cheney, and Mueller made the statements above-- facts 1, 2, and 3? Yea or nay? As for 9/11, you're years behind me in studying and understanding what happened. In fact, you're persistently, willfully ignorant about 9/11. It's frightening, especially considering that you know more about 9/11 than the other guys on the forum. You've never read the NIST report. I'll guess you've never read the 9/11 Commission Report either. Every time I post something to rebut your nonsense, we discover that you've never read it. We discovered another one today. You've never read Mueller's speech that you keep citing. You got a funny way of "studying and understanding", dude. Tell me. Are you an investor in any of those idiotic clickbait websites? |
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