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Post by Walter on Sept 21, 2019 12:50:18 GMT -5
I have already addressed the problem with Chandler. It is not his presentation. Rather it is his decision to completely ignore the most salient aspects of the collapse before rendering his conclusion. Chandler is like the 14th century doctor who "empirically observes" that his patient lost a lot of blood yesterday but feels better today, and starts pondering what that might mean. And BTW, how does Chandler know if the video he is analyzing was shot with a camera that rolls at 30 frames/second or an earlier generation camera running at 24 frames/sec.? That alone could account for a 20% error in his calculation. Does he know? Would not a scientist want to know that before proceeding? Total bunk. Chandler's physics analysis is completely accurate. I should know. I taught physics to undergrads at Brown, and scored a perfect 15 on the Physics section of my MCATS. Meanwhile, 2,300 academic engineers and architects have debunked your pseudo-scientific Bush-Cheney NIST computer model that has no published data verifying it. The only guys who agree with your bullshit are delusional, dishonest trolls like Harry, Mutt, and Fred... Total bunk? Maybe. I have not "studied" his work. Apparently, you have. So please post evidence of how Chandler measures time in his analysis. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 13:03:01 GMT -5
Total bunk. Chandler's physics analysis is completely accurate. I should know. I taught physics to undergrads at Brown, and scored a perfect 15 on the Physics section of my MCATS. Meanwhile, 2,300 academic engineers and architects have debunked your pseudo-scientific Bush-Cheney NIST computer model that has no published data verifying it. The only guys who agree with your bullshit are delusional, dishonest trolls like Harry, Mutt, and Fred... Total bunk? Maybe. I have not "studied" his work. Apparently, you have. So please post evidence of how Chandler measures time in his analysis. Go back and watch the brief Chandler video in which he clearly exposes the NIST Report lies about the free fall collapse of WTC7. Chandler is a very good physics teacher. I'm tired of posting definitive analyses of the empirical evidence that you and the hairy Chicken refuse to even look at. Did you ever study the "Explosive Evidence" documentary that you deleted? NO. Did you study the definitive analyses debunking the NIST Report that I have posted here over the years-- endorsed by 2,300 academic and professional engineers and architects? NO. You are a 9/11 Truth dodger. |
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Post by Walter on Sept 21, 2019 13:33:20 GMT -5
Total bunk? Maybe. I have not "studied" his work. Apparently, you have. So please post evidence of how Chandler measures time in his analysis. Go back and watch the brief Chandler video in which he clearly exposes the NIST Report lies about the free fall collapse of WTC7. Chandler is a very good physics teacher. I'm tired of posting definitive analyses of the empirical evidence that you and the hairy Chicken refuse to even look at. Did you ever study the "Explosive Evidence" documentary that you deleted? NO. Did you study the definitive analyses debunking the NIST Report that I have posted here over the years-- endorsed by 2,300 academic and professional engineers and architects? NO. You are a 9/11 Truth dodger. I asked you a simple question. How does Chandler measure time? In his videos I've seen, he never discloses how he does that. IMO, that doesn't make him, or you, very good scientists. HOW DOES CHANDLER MEASURE TIME? It is critical to the veracity of the analysis, wouldn't you say, Professor? As for the "definitive analyses" debunking the NIST Report, I did read them, and posted precisely where I thought they were deficient. That's when you bailed. If you want to post them again, I'll be happy to kick your ass again. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 14:27:03 GMT -5
Go back and watch the brief Chandler video in which he clearly exposes the NIST Report lies about the free fall collapse of WTC7. Chandler is a very good physics teacher. I'm tired of posting definitive analyses of the empirical evidence that you and the hairy Chicken refuse to even look at. Did you ever study the "Explosive Evidence" documentary that you deleted? NO. Did you study the definitive analyses debunking the NIST Report that I have posted here over the years-- endorsed by 2,300 academic and professional engineers and architects? NO. You are a 9/11 Truth dodger. I asked you a simple question. How does Chandler measure time? In his videos I've seen, he never discloses how he does that. IMO, that doesn't make him, or you, very good scientists. HOW DOES CHANDLER MEASURE TIME? It is critical to the veracity of the analysis, wouldn't you say, Professor? As for the "definitive analyses" debunking the NIST Report, I did read them, and posted precisely where I thought they were deficient. That's when you bailed. If you want to post them again, I'll be happy to kick your ass again.
Walter,
If you read the three detailed analyses debunking of the NIST Report that I have posted here in recent years (by FOUR DIFFERENT SCIENTISTS !!) you obviously didn't understand them.
As for how Chandler measures time in his analysis of the free fall collapse of WTC7, you are truly grasping at straws now-- probably based on some bullshit you read on a government-funded disinformation website like metabunk.com or 911myths.com.
It's a stupid question. Chandler is measuring time with a clock.
Here's the video again. Watch it this time. Listen and learn.
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Post by Walter on Sept 21, 2019 15:02:55 GMT -5
I asked you a simple question. How does Chandler measure time? In his videos I've seen, he never discloses how he does that. IMO, that doesn't make him, or you, very good scientists. HOW DOES CHANDLER MEASURE TIME? It is critical to the veracity of the analysis, wouldn't you say, Professor? As for the "definitive analyses" debunking the NIST Report, I did read them, and posted precisely where I thought they were deficient. That's when you bailed. If you want to post them again, I'll be happy to kick your ass again. Walter,
If you read the three detailed analyses debunking of the NIST Report that I have posted here in recent years (by FOUR DIFFERENT SCIENTISTS !!) you obviously didn't understand them. As for how Chandler measures time in his analysis of the free fall collapse of WTC7, you are truly grasping at straws now-- probably based on some bullshit you read on a government-funded disinformation website like metabunk.com or 911myths.com. It's a stupid question. Chandler is measuring time with a clock. Here's the video again. Watch it this time. Listen and learn.
In his own words, he says he is tracking the building position, "frame by frame". How much time does each frame take? He doesn't say. Also, you will notice that in his own video there is an input button for "FPS", which means his program can manipulate the speed of the playback to be whatever he wants. This tells us that (1) the program doesn't give a shit about the actual FPS, only the relative FPS, and (2) that his only way of knowing true time is if he knows the FPS of the original video. He never states how he knows or if he has even considered that there are many which are commonly used. There are all sorts of frame rates for cameras. 24 FPS, 25 FPS, 30 FPS are all used for so-called "live-action". Most TV news is shot at 24 FPS, but not always. It is often shot at 25 FPS depending on the equipment, and if clarity of picture is desired, sometimes 30 FPS, and for long shots, of which this one, clarity does matter because of the lens length, so it very well could have been a 30fps camera. So, to measure time, it is a critical piece of information to know. Chandler, I'm guessing, has no clue about this variable. If he assumed 24 fps, and it was shot at 25fps (or vice versa), his graph of time will be off by 4%. If it was shot at 30, it will be off by 20%. Wouldn't you consider it important that he knows for certain what the frame rate was prior to evaluating the time it took for the building to collapse? I would. Ah, but the click-baiters don't give a shit about stuff like that. They're selling a product to a hungry group of willing acolytes hoping to keep the flame of "conspiracy" alive. But hey, go ahead and ignore my question, or change the subject and pretend what I wrote didn't happen. It's what you normally do rather than admitting, "Hmmm....maybe you're right. Maybe this guy is just a well-meaning fellow who may or may not have gotten it wrong." |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 20:02:55 GMT -5
If you don't accept Chandler's video footage of the collapse, get a stop watch, Wally. Then time the free fall collapse of WTC7 on the 9/11 CBS film (above) as Dan Rather rolls the footage.
And, while you're at it, let's also hear you and greasy Harry explain this 9/11 video (below) from the owner of WTC7...
Larry Silverstein, the World Trade Center leaseholder, was shown on television saying: "I remember getting a call from the ER, Fire Department Commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made the decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."
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Post by Walter on Sept 21, 2019 23:04:30 GMT -5
If you don't accept Chandler's video footage of the collapse, get a stop watch, Wally. Then time the free fall collapse of WTC7 on the 9/11 CBS film (above) as Dan Rather rolls the footage. And, while you're at it, let's also hear you and greasy Harry explain this 9/11 video (below) from the owner of WTC7... Larry Silverstein, the World Trade Center leaseholder, was shown on television saying: "I remember getting a call from the ER, Fire Department Commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made the decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 9:15:42 GMT -5
If you don't accept Chandler's video footage of the collapse, get a stop watch, Wally. Then time the free fall collapse of WTC7 on the 9/11 CBS film (above) as Dan Rather rolls the footage. And, while you're at it, let's also hear you and greasy Harry explain this 9/11 video (below) from the owner of WTC7... Larry Silverstein, the World Trade Center leaseholder, was shown on television saying: "I remember getting a call from the ER, Fire Department Commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made the decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."
Irrelevant.
Huh?
It's not irrelevant at all, Wally. Larry Silverstein, a close personal friend of Bibi Netanyahu, built WTC7, and he had architectural plans for a new WTC7 drafted BEFORE 9/11.
From the obvious video evidence, we all know that WTC7 collapsed in a perfectly executed free fall demolition on 9/11.
This expert demolition of WTC7 was confirmed by a Dutch demolitions expert, Danny Jowenko, after 9/11.
BUT, we also have direct testimonial evidence (above) that the WTC7 demolition occurred right after the owner of the building, Larry Silverstein, "told them to pull it" on 9/11.
Game. Set. Match.
(Tell the hairy chicken for me.)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 17:34:04 GMT -5
If you don't accept Chandler's video footage of the collapse, get a stop watch, Wally. Then time the free fall collapse of WTC7 on the 9/11 CBS film (above) as Dan Rather rolls the footage. And, while you're at it, let's also hear you and greasy Harry explain this 9/11 video (below) from the owner of WTC7... Larry Silverstein, the World Trade Center leaseholder, was shown on television saying: "I remember getting a call from the ER, Fire Department Commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made the decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."
Irrelevant.
It simply means "pull back from efforts to save the building, we can't afford to lose any more lives of first responders." It's the same as saying "stand down."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 17:48:55 GMT -5
Dumbass doesn't even understand what "pull" means.
It simply means "pull back from efforts to save the building, we can't afford to lose any more lives of first responders." It's the same as saying "stand down."
Nice try, Psycho Mutt, but no cigar. Here is what Silverstein said. Read the part in bold print again...
Larry Silverstein, the World Trade Center leaseholder, was shown on television saying: "I remember getting a call from the ER, Fire Department Commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made the decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."
NOW... Silverstein said... "they made the decision to pull and we watched the building collapse," right?
Who is THEY?
The NYFD does not "pull" skyscrapers. THEY (the NYFD) did not pull WTC7. So who "pulled" it? Who planned the expert demolition of WTC7?
Secondly, tell us why the Five "Dancing Israeli" Mossad agents working for Urban Moving Systems (and Mossad agent Dominick Suter) were arrested at the Holland Tunnel on 9/11, after witnesses saw them filming and celebrating the demolitions of the WTC towers.
(The FBI was recently forced to release their photos of the "Dancing Israelis"-- by an FOIA request.)
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Post by Walter on Sept 24, 2019 17:58:08 GMT -5
Dumbass doesn't even understand what "pull" means.
It simply means "pull back from efforts to save the building, we can't afford to lose any more lives of first responders." It's the same as saying "stand down."
Nice try, Psycho Mutt, but no cigar. Here is what Silverstein said. Read the part in bold print again... Larry Silverstein, the World Trade Center leaseholder, was shown on television saying: "I remember getting a call from the ER, Fire Department Commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made the decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."
NOW... Silverstein said... "they made the decision to pull and we watched the building collapse," right? Who is THEY? The NYFD does not "pull" skyscrapers. THEY (the NYFD) did not pull WTC7. So who "pulled" it? Who planned the expert demolition of WTC7?
Secondly, tell us why the Five "Dancing Israeli" Mossad agents working for Urban Moving Systems (and Mossad agent Dominick Suter) were arrested at the Holland Tunnel on 9/11, after witnesses saw them filming and celebrating the demolitions of the WTC towers. (The FBI was recently forced to release their photos of the "Dancing Israelis"-- by an FOIA request.)
He is referring to NYFD fire-fighting activities being pulled from the building That's obvious. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 19:16:58 GMT -5
Nice try, Psycho Mutt, but no cigar. Here is what Silverstein said. Read the part in bold print again... Larry Silverstein, the World Trade Center leaseholder, was shown on television saying: "I remember getting a call from the ER, Fire Department Commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made the decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."
NOW... Silverstein said... "they made the decision to pull and we watched the building collapse," right? Who is THEY? The NYFD does not "pull" skyscrapers. THEY (the NYFD) did not pull WTC7. So who "pulled" it? Who planned the expert demolition of WTC7?
Secondly, tell us why the Five "Dancing Israeli" Mossad agents working for Urban Moving Systems (and Mossad agent Dominick Suter) were arrested at the Holland Tunnel on 9/11, after witnesses saw them filming and celebrating the demolitions of the WTC towers. (The FBI was recently forced to release their photos of the "Dancing Israelis"-- by an FOIA request.)
He is referring to NYFD fire-fighting activities being pulled from the building That's obvious.
Wrong. Bibi Netanyahu's close friend and fund-raiser, Larry Silverstein, said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it."
"Pull IT."
What is, "IT?" The building. WTC7...
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Post by Walter on Sept 24, 2019 19:27:28 GMT -5
He is referring to NYFD fire-fighting activities being pulled from the building That's obvious. Wrong. Bibi Netanyahu's close friend and fund-raiser, Larry Silverstein, said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it."
"Pull IT." What is, "IT?" The building. WTC7...
Again, "it" is the effort by NYFD to put out the fire. What else would NYFD be pulling? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 20:04:53 GMT -5
Wrong. Bibi Netanyahu's close friend and fund-raiser, Larry Silverstein, said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it."
"Pull IT." What is, "IT?" The building. WTC7...
Again, "it" is the effort by NYFD to put out the fire. What else would NYFD be pulling?
Geez, Walt... don't twist yourself into such a PNAC pretzel. Listen to what Larry Silverstein said, in context.
Also, you have never been able to explain why Silverstein had architectural plans for a new WTC7 building drafted BEFORE 9/11.
Nor have you and Harry ever been able to explain why the "Dancing Israeli" Mossad agents were filming and celebrating the WTC demolitions on 9/11.
You're still living in LA LA land...
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Post by Walter on Sept 24, 2019 23:37:14 GMT -5
Again, "it" is the effort by NYFD to put out the fire. What else would NYFD be pulling? Geez, Walt... don't twist yourself into such a PNAC pretzel. Listen to what Larry Silverstein said, in context. Also, you have never been able to explain why Silverstein had architectural plans for a new WTC7 building drafted BEFORE 9/11. Nor have you and Harry ever been able to explain why the "Dancing Israeli" Mossad agents were filming and celebrating the WTC demolitions on 9/11. You're still living in LA LA land...
Cannot tell you how many plans I have drawn for buildings to replace buildings. It is very common and not once was it about dancing Israelis. You are grasping at straws. Stop doing that. |
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