Experts-- Bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki Was Unnecessary

[DrSchadenfreude]

Aug 18, 2020 14:03:09 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Speaking of "pivoting," Cheese Burgher, answer my question...  

Geez.  Even Curtis "Bombs Away" LeMay admitted that nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a war crime. 

If you want scholarly references, read Kuznick.  (I read his Untold History text cover-to-cover.)  Do you even know who he is?

Would you three blockheads have considered it a war crime if the Japanese had dropped atomic bombs on Baton Rouge, Cleveland, and St. Louis in August of 1945?

[Buckeye Dale]

Aug 18, 2020 21:02:43 GMT -5 daleko said:

Aug 18, 2020 14:03:09 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Speaking of "pivoting," Cheese Burgher, answer my question...  

Geez.  Even Curtis "Bombs Away" LeMay admitted that nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a war crime. 

If you want scholarly references, read Kuznick.  (I read his Untold History text cover-to-cover.)  Do you even know who he is?

Would you three blockheads have considered it a war crime if the Japanese had dropped atomic bombs on Baton Rouge, Cleveland, and St. Louis in August of 1945?

You do know the Japs were working on the Bomb, don't you? And they were trying to create an atomic weapon to ??  Ya I know to take a picture and send it to the Emperor. Jeez get a grip. They would have, if they could have and had we given them enough time, they would have.  They fucked w the Bull and got the horn. At that time, in that time, f-word Em. 

You know, maybe Ike was thinking ahead to when HE used option 3 and we should of just eliminated the Emperor. Health Alteration. Different ROE. 

Even the initial attack was not restricted to military targets & personnel... (regardless, you know it's a waste of time trying to reason with an idiot)


Civilian Casualties

www.nps.gov/valr/learn/historyculture/civilian-casualties.htm

[daleko]

Aug 19, 2020 18:41:41 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Aug 18, 2020 14:03:09 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Speaking of "pivoting," Cheese Burgher, answer my question...  

Geez.  Even Curtis "Bombs Away" LeMay admitted that nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a war crime. 

If you want scholarly references, read Kuznick.  (I read his Untold History text cover-to-cover.)  Do you even know who he is?

Would you three blockheads have considered it a war crime if the Japanese had dropped atomic bombs on Baton Rouge, Cleveland, and St. Louis in August of 1945?

Start another thread if you want to pivot to the use of the ABomb creating a war crime charge in 1945. Which is another political decision, where LeMay has no seat at the discussion table- His opinion carries no weight. In this thread, your title is without merit in a political climate of requiring an unconditional surrender.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Aug 19, 2020 22:11:51 GMT -5 daleko said:

Aug 19, 2020 18:41:41 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Start another thread if you want to pivot to the use of the ABomb creating a war crime charge in 1945. Which is another political decision, where LeMay has no seat at the discussion table- His opinion carries no weight. In this thread, your title is without merit in a political climate of requiring an unconditional surrender.

Get a clue, Cheese Burgher.

The two issues are intimately related.

1)  The facts (above) are clear about the atomic bombs being unnecessary to end the war.

2)  It is also obvious that the nuking of the civilian populations of two entire cities-- including women, children, and the elderly-- was one of the worst war crimes in world history.

You strike out again, even while repeatedly dodging my question, like a cheese ball.

[daleko]

Aug 19, 2020 22:59:08 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Aug 19, 2020 22:11:51 GMT -5 daleko said:

Start another thread if you want to pivot to the use of the ABomb creating a war crime charge in 1945. Which is another political decision, where LeMay has no seat at the discussion table- His opinion carries no weight. In this thread, your title is without merit in a political climate of requiring an unconditional surrender.

Get a clue, Cheese Burgher.

The two issues are intimately related.

1)  The facts (above) are clear about the atomic bombs being unnecessary to end the war.

2)  It is also obvious that the nuking of the civilian populations of two entire cities-- including women, children, and the elderly-- was one of the worst war crimes in world history.

You strike out again, even while repeatedly dodging my question, like a cheese ball.

You lost this one. If you want to go again, start another thread that deals w your specific contention. This one is done.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Aug 19, 2020 23:09:22 GMT -5 daleko said:

Aug 19, 2020 22:59:08 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Get a clue, Cheese Burgher.

The two issues are intimately related.

1)  The facts (above) are clear about the atomic bombs being unnecessary to end the war.

2)  It is also obvious that the nuking of the civilian populations of two entire cities-- including women, children, and the elderly-- was one of the worst war crimes in world history.

You strike out again, even while repeatedly dodging my question, like a cheese ball.

You lost this one. If you want to go again, start another thread that deals w your specific contention. This one is done.

Get your head examined, fella.

I don't want to waste any more time trying to enlighten a guy who is, obviously, incapable of learning anything.

Try studying American University Professor Peter Kuznick's text, The Untold History of the United States.

[daleko]

Aug 20, 2020 16:32:12 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Aug 19, 2020 23:09:22 GMT -5 daleko said:

You lost this one. If you want to go again, start another thread that deals w your specific contention. This one is done.

Get your head examined, fella.

I don't want to waste any more time trying to enlighten a guy who is, obviously, incapable of learning anything.

Try studying American University Professor Peter Kuznick's text, The Untold History of the United States.

Nice FOLD. As you usually do.

Paddle off now into the shallow end before your inner tube loses its hot air. 

[DrSchadenfreude]

Aug 20, 2020 17:36:00 GMT -5 daleko said:

Aug 20, 2020 16:32:12 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Get your head examined, fella.

I don't want to waste any more time trying to enlighten a guy who is, obviously, incapable of learning anything.

Try studying American University Professor Peter Kuznick's text, The Untold History of the United States.

Nice FOLD. As you usually do.

Paddle off now into the shallow end before your inner tube loses its hot air. 

Daleko,

    You just got your ass kicked, as always.

    I don't want to waste any more time trying to knock some sense into a blockhead.

    Try reading the references I post for you in our debates.  Don't remain a clueless idiot forever.

[daleko]

Aug 22, 2020 16:59:58 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Aug 20, 2020 17:36:00 GMT -5 daleko said:

Nice FOLD. As you usually do.

Paddle off now into the shallow end before your inner tube loses its hot air. 

Daleko,

    You just got your ass kicked, as always.

    I don't want to waste any more time trying to knock some sense into a blockhead.

    Try reading the references I post for you in our debates.  Don't remain a clueless idiot forever.

You gave it up, said it was a waste of time and yet here you are. You are like that little dog next door, yapping then running, yapping then running. Your points of discussion were misguided and incomplete. You conflated two SEPARATE channels of operations that were involved in the War effort V the Japs. Now if you want to start another thread challenging the need for an UNCONDITIONAL surrender, that'd be a good starting point. Perhaps even add the morality of an unconditional surrender. But you lost this one, easily. Want another spanking? Come on back to this thread, loser. This side is open to the WWW and the fools you invited to view your losing performance all are laughing at you.

[Buckeye Dale]

Some of my friends & acquaintances have a sick sense of humor...

Most common wood furniture in 1945 Hiroshima? Ash.