Guns Now the Leading Cause of Death For Children in U.S.

[dilligaf]

Apr 26, 2022 22:59:56 GMT -5 Walter said:

Apr 26, 2022 20:09:11 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

Yep, it's a tragedy that you and your drinking buddies didn't get to watch their minutes-old skulls get crushed and their brains sucked out. Might've avoided a dozen accidental deaths had y'all killed a million a year more.

WTF?
Are you drunk?

He is pointing out your hypocrisy of claiming you care about children's lives, when you do nothing to stop them from being murdered in the womb.

You deny science for your own selfish reasons.

[daleko]

Apr 25, 2022 16:20:23 GMT -5 Walter said:

Apr 25, 2022 14:20:12 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

Somebody needs to prosecute all those children in the inner cities as adults for anything which involves a gun.

Why just inner cities? Dead suburban kids don't matter?
Oh...right. I get it. "Inner Cities" is code.
Never mind.

Sure it is. It is, however, the significant component of the issue. Although Black children and teens made up only 14 percent of all children and teens in 2019, they accounted for 43 percent of child and teen gun deaths. Black children and teens were four times more likely to be killed with guns than their white peers, at least in 2019. Black boys were 18 times more likely to be killed in gun homicides than white boys. Eighty-five percent of child and teen gun deaths occurred among 15- to 19-year-olds by 15 to 19 yr olds. The by component are certainly at the age of legally being removed from circulation of the gen pop. 

Within the thread is the subset of the problem the thread's author is pointing out. Now whatever you or the threads author want to discuss, certainly the contention that removing the offending "shooters" from circulation in the inner city, that are involved in 43%, then, could be part of the solution of reducing crime against children and teens. Along w many other debatable solutions. If you want to turn a blind eye to solutions that don't fit your narrative. <shrug> And the solutions may range from eliminating guns to eugenics. Neither of which is going to happen. Not so funny you seem to take offense at focusing on the high % issue. 

Today, Black Americans make up 68% of homicide victims. And the shooters are Black. Why do you find offence starting w that demo segment?

[Panama pfRedd]

I wonder if wolly will demand a link and proclaim you're lying.... Sorta doubt it. He only reserves that right for "redhats", lol.

[Walter]

Apr 27, 2022 10:56:03 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Apr 26, 2022 9:29:40 GMT -5 Walter said:

Again, none of that changes the fact that children are dying by gunshot.

Do you care at all? No. If it meant you'd have even a single gun right abridged to end it, you do not.

Children, shot dead.
The "price of freedom".

Infringing on my gun rights does NOTHING to control criminals.

Infringing on my gun rights does NOTHING to control irresponsible gun owners.

Yes, I care about deaths of ANYONE for ANY reason, but let's put the blame where it BELONGS.

It is CRIMINALS, irresponsible gun owners, and irresponsible judges and prosecutors who are allowing these things to happen over and over.  

I and 99.9999% of law abiding gun owners will NEVER shoot anyone, on purpose or accidentally.

Therefore, there is NO valid reason to infringe on OUR rights.

Just like masks...............own a gun or not, at your discretion.

Do NOT place your fake guilt trip on ME.

99.9999% of airline passengers aren't hijackers, yet I have my private property searched to get on a plane.

Your argument doesn't hold water.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Apr 27, 2022 16:01:35 GMT -5 Walter said:

Apr 27, 2022 10:56:03 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Infringing on my gun rights does NOTHING to control criminals.

Infringing on my gun rights does NOTHING to control irresponsible gun owners.

Yes, I care about deaths of ANYONE for ANY reason, but let's put the blame where it BELONGS.

It is CRIMINALS, irresponsible gun owners, and irresponsible judges and prosecutors who are allowing these things to happen over and over.  

I and 99.9999% of law abiding gun owners will NEVER shoot anyone, on purpose or accidentally.

Therefore, there is NO valid reason to infringe on OUR rights.

Just like masks...............own a gun or not, at your discretion.

Do NOT place your fake guilt trip on ME.

99.9999% of airline passengers aren't hijackers, yet I have my private property searched to get on a plane.

Your argument doesn't hold water.

At this point in his loony MAGA life Mutt, himself, probably doesn't hold water.

Too many blows to the cabeza.

[Walter]

Apr 27, 2022 14:41:04 GMT -5 daleko said:

Apr 25, 2022 16:20:23 GMT -5 Walter said:

Why just inner cities? Dead suburban kids don't matter?
Oh...right. I get it. "Inner Cities" is code.
Never mind.

Sure it is. It is, however, the significant component of the issue. Although Black children and teens made up only 14 percent of all children and teens in 2019, they accounted for 43 percent of child and teen gun deaths. Black children and teens were four times more likely to be killed with guns than their white peers, at least in 2019. Black boys were 18 times more likely to be killed in gun homicides than white boys. Eighty-five percent of child and teen gun deaths occurred among 15- to 19-year-olds by 15 to 19 yr olds. The by component are certainly at the age of legally being removed from circulation of the gen pop. 

Within the thread is the subset of the problem the thread's author is pointing out. Now whatever you or the threads author want to discuss, certainly the contention that removing the offending "shooters" from circulation in the inner city, that are involved in 43%, then, could be part of the solution of reducing crime against children and teens. Along w many other debatable solutions. If you want to turn a blind eye to solutions that don't fit your narrative. <shrug> And the solutions may range from eliminating guns to eugenics. Neither of which is going to happen. Not so funny you seem to take offense at focusing on the high % issue. 

Today, Black Americans make up 68% of homicide victims. And the shooters are Black. Why do you find offence starting w that demo segment?

Your numbers aren't quite accurate, but regardless, the point remains. While the rate is higher for black boys, the total number certainly involves other races and other places NOT in the inner city.
Why would you want to ignore or downplay those deaths?

[dilligaf]

Apr 27, 2022 16:01:35 GMT -5 Walter said:

Apr 27, 2022 10:56:03 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Infringing on my gun rights does NOTHING to control criminals.

Infringing on my gun rights does NOTHING to control irresponsible gun owners.

Yes, I care about deaths of ANYONE for ANY reason, but let's put the blame where it BELONGS.

It is CRIMINALS, irresponsible gun owners, and irresponsible judges and prosecutors who are allowing these things to happen over and over.  

I and 99.9999% of law abiding gun owners will NEVER shoot anyone, on purpose or accidentally.

Therefore, there is NO valid reason to infringe on OUR rights.

Just like masks...............own a gun or not, at your discretion.

Do NOT place your fake guilt trip on ME.

99.9999% of airline passengers aren't hijackers, yet I have my private property searched to get on a plane.

Your argument doesn't hold water.

Nonsense.

You do NOT have the RIGHT to fly on an airliner.   That is a privilege.
WHY do you insist on arguing with me and getting shot down over and over?   My argument holds so much water I drown you.

You are wrong.
I am right.

Deal with it.

[Panama pfRedd]

Apr 27, 2022 17:05:33 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Apr 27, 2022 16:01:35 GMT -5 Walter said:

99.9999% of airline passengers aren't hijackers, yet I have my private property searched to get on a plane.

Your argument doesn't hold water.

Nonsense.

You do NOT have the RIGHT to fly on an airliner.   That is a privilege.
WHY do you insist on arguing with me and getting shot down over and over?   My argument holds so much water I drown you.

You are wrong.
I am right.

Deal with it.

I wonder if dickface is going to post a link disputing daleko's numbers, or is he "making it up"?

[dilligaf]

Apr 27, 2022 16:17:40 GMT -5 Walter said:

Apr 27, 2022 14:41:04 GMT -5 daleko said:

Sure it is. It is, however, the significant component of the issue. Although Black children and teens made up only 14 percent of all children and teens in 2019, they accounted for 43 percent of child and teen gun deaths. Black children and teens were four times more likely to be killed with guns than their white peers, at least in 2019. Black boys were 18 times more likely to be killed in gun homicides than white boys. Eighty-five percent of child and teen gun deaths occurred among 15- to 19-year-olds by 15 to 19 yr olds. The by component are certainly at the age of legally being removed from circulation of the gen pop. 

Within the thread is the subset of the problem the thread's author is pointing out. Now whatever you or the threads author want to discuss, certainly the contention that removing the offending "shooters" from circulation in the inner city, that are involved in 43%, then, could be part of the solution of reducing crime against children and teens. Along w many other debatable solutions. If you want to turn a blind eye to solutions that don't fit your narrative. <shrug> And the solutions may range from eliminating guns to eugenics. Neither of which is going to happen. Not so funny you seem to take offense at focusing on the high % issue. 

Today, Black Americans make up 68% of homicide victims. And the shooters are Black. Why do you find offence starting w that demo segment?

Your numbers aren't quite accurate, but regardless, the point remains. While the rate is higher for black boys, the total number certainly involves other races and other places NOT in the inner city.
Why would you want to ignore or downplay those deaths?

The FACT remains that no GUN has ever shot another person.
A gun is an inanimate object that cannot move or function all by itself.
Stop pointing your finger TOTALLY in the wrong direction.

You and Putin both wish there no guns in the hands of Ukrainians or American citizens.

[Walter]

Apr 27, 2022 17:13:30 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

Apr 27, 2022 17:05:33 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Nonsense.

You do NOT have the RIGHT to fly on an airliner.   That is a privilege.
WHY do you insist on arguing with me and getting shot down over and over?   My argument holds so much water I drown you.

You are wrong.
I am right.

Deal with it.

I wonder if dickface is going to post a link disputing daleko's numbers, or is he "making it up"?

HSFSE

[Walter]

Apr 27, 2022 18:12:14 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Apr 27, 2022 16:17:40 GMT -5 Walter said:

Your numbers aren't quite accurate, but regardless, the point remains. While the rate is higher for black boys, the total number certainly involves other races and other places NOT in the inner city.
Why would you want to ignore or downplay those deaths?

The FACT remains that no GUN has ever shot another person.
A gun is an inanimate object that cannot move or function all by itself.
Stop pointing your finger TOTALLY in the wrong direction.

You and Putin both wish there no guns in the hands of Ukrainians or American citizens.

If you don't care about a little kid blowing away a young sibling, I guess I don't either. After all, it's not the gun's fault.
Fair enough.

[dilligaf]

Apr 27, 2022 19:19:49 GMT -5 Walter said:

Apr 27, 2022 18:12:14 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

The FACT remains that no GUN has ever shot another person.
A gun is an inanimate object that cannot move or function all by itself.
Stop pointing your finger TOTALLY in the wrong direction.

You and Putin both wish there no guns in the hands of Ukrainians or American citizens.

If you don't care about a little kid blowing away a young sibling, I guess I don't either. After all, it's not the gun's fault.
Fair enough.

I care, but it is the PARENTS' responsibility if the kid does that.

Not mine, not yours, not the gun's.

YOU don't care about doctors murdering children who are never born.

I don't understand you.  I keep whipping you and you keep coming back for more.
WHY???

[Panama pfRedd]

Apr 27, 2022 19:25:12 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Apr 27, 2022 19:19:49 GMT -5 Walter said:

If you don't care about a little kid blowing away a young sibling, I guess I don't either. After all, it's not the gun's fault.
Fair enough.

I care, but it is the PARENTS' responsibility if the kid does that.

Not mine, not yours, not the gun's.

YOU don't care about doctors murdering children who are never born.

I don't understand you.  I keep whipping you and you keep coming back for more.
WHY???

Obsessive/compulsive disorder combined with a massive case of TDS.

[daleko]

Apr 27, 2022 16:17:40 GMT -5 Walter said:

Apr 27, 2022 14:41:04 GMT -5 daleko said:

Sure it is. It is, however, the significant component of the issue. Although Black children and teens made up only 14 percent of all children and teens in 2019, they accounted for 43 percent of child and teen gun deaths. Black children and teens were four times more likely to be killed with guns than their white peers, at least in 2019. Black boys were 18 times more likely to be killed in gun homicides than white boys. Eighty-five percent of child and teen gun deaths occurred among 15- to 19-year-olds by 15 to 19 yr olds. The by component are certainly at the age of legally being removed from circulation of the gen pop. 

Within the thread is the subset of the problem the thread's author is pointing out. Now whatever you or the threads author want to discuss, certainly the contention that removing the offending "shooters" from circulation in the inner city, that are involved in 43%, then, could be part of the solution of reducing crime against children and teens. Along w many other debatable solutions. If you want to turn a blind eye to solutions that don't fit your narrative. <shrug> And the solutions may range from eliminating guns to eugenics. Neither of which is going to happen. Not so funny you seem to take offense at focusing on the high % issue. 

Today, Black Americans make up 68% of homicide victims. And the shooters are Black. Why do you find offence starting w that demo segment?

Your numbers aren't quite accurate, but regardless, the point remains. While the rate is higher for black boys, the total number certainly involves other races and other places NOT in the inner city.
Why would you want to ignore or downplay those deaths?

Why not focus on the biggest, by a large margin, area of occurence? N St L is a killing zone. Black leaders agree with noted 2019 numbers, agree the issue, should be focused on there and solved and should take priority, given the % of the population being impacted. There is NO DOUBT that the issue is there in the Black Community by a wide margin. The only Q is what to do about it. With eliminating guns and eugenics being the polar opposites and poles that can never be accomplished in our lifetimes..... What can you do in both the short term and over the next 5-15 yrs. You maybe don't support incarceration. While other social programs can be initiated to redirect many before they get the itch to kill someone, after the fact incarceration is what this society has used as a tool. Alone it appears to not be working but in combination.............. Holding those who have stepped over the line up as examples of what will happen if you do.

Your Q is misguided. As it usually is when you need a spin. Never said that and you have to start somewhere. John Dillinger robbed banks because that was where the money was. 

[AlaCowboy]

Apr 26, 2022 22:59:56 GMT -5 Walter said:

Apr 26, 2022 20:09:11 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

Yep, it's a tragedy that you and your drinking buddies didn't get to watch their minutes-old skulls get crushed and their brains sucked out. Might've avoided a dozen accidental deaths had y'all killed a million a year more.

WTF?
Are you drunk?

Nope. Do you scramble those infant brains with eggs and sausage after you slaughter those babies?