Wow...

[Buckeye Dale]

I read this, 

which led me to:


bleacherreport.com/articles/671695-aroldis-chapman-and-the-15-fastest-pitches-ever-recorded

[Mickey34jb]

May 2, 2022 5:58:36 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

I read this



which led me to:


bleacherreport.com/articles/671695-aroldis-chapman-and-the-15-fastest-pitches-ever-recorded

I wonder what brand was for the radar gun and if it could be calibrated or not. Otherwise its impressive.

[Buckeye Dale]

May 2, 2022 16:34:07 GMT -5 Mickey34jb said:

May 2, 2022 5:58:36 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

I read this



which led me to:


bleacherreport.com/articles/671695-aroldis-chapman-and-the-15-fastest-pitches-ever-recorded

I wonder what brand was for the radar gun and if it could be calibrated or not. Otherwise its impressive.

I wonder more about how they measured Feller in 1946.  www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-power-rankings-twins-angels-and-yankees-come-surging-into-may/

[Mickey34jb]

May 2, 2022 18:34:19 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

May 2, 2022 16:34:07 GMT -5 Mickey34jb said:

I wonder what brand was for the radar gun and if it could be calibrated or not. Otherwise its impressive.

I wonder more about how they measured Feller in 1946.  www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-power-rankings-twins-angels-and-yankees-come-surging-into-may/

I googled that very question__still couldnt understand it. velocity and physics was used a lot.....


A bigger question is how did Sandy Koufax's curveball start at 12 o'clock then dropped to 6 o'clock___And how come no pitcher since has duplicated it.....hmmmm

[Walter]

May 2, 2022 21:05:00 GMT -5 Mickey34jb said:

May 2, 2022 18:34:19 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

I wonder more about how they measured Feller in 1946.  www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-power-rankings-twins-angels-and-yankees-come-surging-into-may/

I googled that very question__still couldnt understand it. velocity and physics was used a lot.....


A bigger question is how did Sandy Koufax's curveball start at 12 o'clock then dropped to 6 o'clock___And how come no pitcher since has duplicated it.....hmmmm

I cannot tell you how many times I heard Vin Scully call strike three on a Koufax curve that literally bounced in front of home plate and still got the batter to swing.

In his prime, Kershaw got very close to that 12-6 curve, (his is more a 11-6 curve, but with the same bend), He still busts a good one now and then, but not like in his prime. His curve is as close to Koufax as any I have ever seen.

And right on queue, Kersh just became the all-time Dodger strikeout leader.

[Buckeye Dale]

May 2, 2022 21:05:00 GMT -5 Mickey34jb said:

May 2, 2022 18:34:19 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

I wonder more about how they measured Feller in 1946.  www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-power-rankings-twins-angels-and-yankees-come-surging-into-may/

I googled that very question__still couldnt understand it. velocity and physics was used a lot.....


A bigger question is how did Sandy Koufax's curveball start at 12 o'clock then dropped to 6 o'clock___And how come no pitcher since has duplicated it.....hmmmm

Pickin' hairs, but the old way was using a stop watch, timing from when the ball left the pitcher's hand until it hit the catcher's mitt...and was still just a SWAG.  

Jon Rauch of the Mets is 6'11"; the shortest pitcher of the modern era, 5'4" Dennis John (Dinty) Gearin pitched for the 1923 NY Giants.  I'd guess that their strides (& arm length) are quite a bit different.  The arguments with the radar gun is whether you want the speed when the ball leaves his hand or the speed when it crosses home plate....

[beuycek]

May 2, 2022 21:05:00 GMT -5 Mickey34jb said:

May 2, 2022 18:34:19 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

I wonder more about how they measured Feller in 1946.  www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-power-rankings-twins-angels-and-yankees-come-surging-into-may/

I googled that very question__still couldnt understand it. velocity and physics was used a lot.....


A bigger question is how did Sandy Koufax's curveball start at 12 o'clock then dropped to 6 o'clock___And how come no pitcher since has duplicated it.....hmmmm

Doc Gooden had a 12/6 curveball in his early years.

[Mickey34jb]

May 3, 2022 6:19:49 GMT -5 beuycek said:

May 2, 2022 21:05:00 GMT -5 Mickey34jb said:

I googled that very question__still couldnt understand it. velocity and physics was used a lot.....


A bigger question is how did Sandy Koufax's curveball start at 12 o'clock then dropped to 6 o'clock___And how come no pitcher since has duplicated it.....hmmmm

Doc Gooden had a 12/6 curveball in his early years.

Thats pretty impressive!

[Mickey34jb]

May 3, 2022 0:14:39 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

May 2, 2022 21:05:00 GMT -5 Mickey34jb said:

I googled that very question__still couldnt understand it. velocity and physics was used a lot.....


A bigger question is how did Sandy Koufax's curveball start at 12 o'clock then dropped to 6 o'clock___And how come no pitcher since has duplicated it.....hmmmm

Pickin' hairs, but the old way was using a stop watch, timing from when the ball left the pitcher's hand until it hit the catcher's mitt...and was still just a SWAG.  

Jon Rauch of the Mets is 6'11"; the shortest pitcher of the modern era, 5'4" Dennis John (Dinty) Gearin pitched for the 1923 NY Giants.  I'd guess that their strides (& arm length) are quite a bit different.  The arguments with the radar gun is whether you want the speed when the ball leaves his hand or the speed when it crosses home plate....

Pitchers like Feller and Walter Johnson back in the day passed the eye test for scouts as well

[canefan]

May 3, 2022 0:14:39 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

May 2, 2022 21:05:00 GMT -5 Mickey34jb said:

I googled that very question__still couldnt understand it. velocity and physics was used a lot.....


A bigger question is how did Sandy Koufax's curveball start at 12 o'clock then dropped to 6 o'clock___And how come no pitcher since has duplicated it.....hmmmm

Pickin' hairs, but the old way was using a stop watch, timing from when the ball left the pitcher's hand until it hit the catcher's mitt...and was still just a SWAG.  

Jon Rauch of the Mets is 6'11"; the shortest pitcher of the modern era, 5'4" Dennis John (Dinty) Gearin pitched for the 1923 NY Giants.  I'd guess that their strides (& arm length) are quite a bit different.  The arguments with the radar gun is whether you want the speed when the ball leaves his hand or the speed when it crosses home plate....

There used to be a documentary on Netflix called "Fastball." Or close to that. One thing I remember was them talking about measuring Ryan when they took the reading just as it reached home. Someone calculated what the velocity of that pitch out of his hand would be and came up with 108.

[Walter]

All I know is when we went to batting cages BITD, we'd always take a shot at the 90 MPH machines.
I could barely even see the ball, let alone hit it.
I cannot imagine what 100 MPH is like.

[beuycek]

May 9, 2022 16:28:49 GMT -5 Walter said:

All I know is when we went to batting cages BITD, we'd always take a shot at the 90 MPH machines.
I could barely even see the ball, let alone hit it.
I cannot imagine what 100 MPH is like.

How about a 90mph slider? I would spin myself into the ground trying to hit one of those.

[Walter]

May 10, 2022 10:43:00 GMT -5 beuycek said:

May 9, 2022 16:28:49 GMT -5 Walter said:

All I know is when we went to batting cages BITD, we'd always take a shot at the 90 MPH machines.
I could barely even see the ball, let alone hit it.
I cannot imagine what 100 MPH is like.

How about a 90mph slider? I would spin myself into the ground trying to hit one of those.

I can't even imagine being able to hit such stuff.
I couldn't hit average high school stuff, which is why the baseball coach asked me if perhaps I needed told me to think about another sport, and though I loved baseball and really wanted to play it, voila, a HS swimmer was born!

EDIT: In hindsight, it's pretty funny that a HS kid like me is told that and thinks, "well, heck, I'm a pretty good fielder. Perhaps I'll just be a late inning, no-hit utility infielder in the pros". Ah, kids and dreams...

[daleko]

May 9, 2022 16:28:49 GMT -5 Walter said:

All I know is when we went to batting cages BITD, we'd always take a shot at the 90 MPH machines.
I could barely even see the ball, let alone hit it.
I cannot imagine what 100 MPH is like.

500 good swings a day. For years. Easier w that kind of work effort if you had Ted Williams' eyes and reaction. Then, it looks easy. Ted Williams V Bob Feller. Williams batted .344. Same as his career average.

[beuycek]

May 10, 2022 11:44:58 GMT -5 Walter said:

May 10, 2022 10:43:00 GMT -5 beuycek said:

How about a 90mph slider? I would spin myself into the ground trying to hit one of those.

I can't even imagine being able to hit such stuff.
I couldn't hit average high school stuff, which is why the baseball coach asked me if perhaps I needed told me to think about another sport, and though I loved baseball and really wanted to play it, voila, a HS swimmer was born!

EDIT: In hindsight, it's pretty funny that a HS kid like me is told that and thinks, "well, heck, I'm a pretty good fielder. Perhaps I'll just be a late inning, no-hit utility infielder in the pros". Ah, kids and dreams...

I also grew up playing baseball but was never much of a hitter. I could fly on the base paths and was an above average catcher and average outfielder but I couldn't hit a lick so I knew my time in the game was short and switched to basketball in high school. Worked out ok as I ended up playing in college but the love of baseball never left me.

My senior year, I asked the baseball coach what he thought about me trying out for the team. He asked if I was giving up basketball as he didn't have room for someone that wasn't committed 100% to his team. Mind you, I had two teammates on the basketball team that also played baseball (one that played football and ran track, too) and he knew I wasn't giving up basketball so I took that as him trying to politely me tell me he didn't want me on the team.