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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 3, 2022 19:58:38 GMT -5
Well, Harry, I took the time this afternoon to listen to Ken Jenkins' lecture on the Pentagon evidence and cognitive biases. It was excellent, and also presented some data that I had never seen before, including the photo of the apparent 96 foot hole/aperture on the first floor of the Pentagon. So, naturally, I'm revising my skepticism about AA77 hitting the Pentagon. That said, if you and Walter listen carefully to Jenkins lecture here on cognitive biases, you will also realize that you need to revise your erroneous beliefs that the WTC was not demolished by explosives on 9/11, as General Stubblebine points out at the top of this thread. Welcome to 9/11 Truth, with Jenkins, at last! Glad you listened to it and happy to dig into all 3 WTC buildings with an open mind after we finish here with AA 77 and the Pentagon. How “revised” is your skepticism? Do you now believe that AA 77 hit the Pentagon? If yes, great to know. If no, what do you believe hit the building? Still a cruise missile? 9/11 Truther Jenkin's discussion of the Pentagon evidence impressed me. I'm revising my paradigm, especially based on the 96 foot hole on the first floor. As for the explosive WTC demolitions -- they are an empirically obvious, scientifically established fact. Take off your cognitive blinders and watch General Stubblebine's interview (and WTC film) at the top of this thread. You and Walter are blinded/ "anchored" to the false government/Jerome Hauer "jet fuel" WTC narrative, as described by Ken Jenkins. If you still can't grasp that scientific fact, you both need to listen carefully to Jenkins' lecture. |
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 3, 2022 20:30:42 GMT -5
Glad you listened to it and happy to dig into all 3 WTC buildings with an open mind after we finish here with AA 77 and the Pentagon. How “revised” is your skepticism? Do you now believe that AA 77 hit the Pentagon? If yes, great to know. If no, what do you believe hit the building? Still a cruise missile? 9/11 Truther Jenkin's discussion of the Pentagon evidence impressed me. I'm revising my paradigm, especially based on the 96 foot hole on the first floor. As for the explosive WTC demolitions -- they are an empirically obvious, scientifically established fact. Take off your cognitive blinders and watch General Stubblebine's interview (and WTC film) at the top of this thread. You and Walter are blinded/ "anchored" to the false government/Jerome Hauer "jet fuel" WTC narrative, as described by Ken Jenkins. If you still can't grasp that scientific fact, you both need to listen carefully to Jenkins' lecture. Revising your paradigm? Come on… lose the doublespeak. If you believe it was AA 77 say so. If you don’t, say so and explain what you do believe. |
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 3, 2022 21:56:10 GMT -5
9/11 Truther Jenkin's discussion of the Pentagon evidence impressed me. I'm revising my paradigm, especially based on the 96 foot hole on the first floor. As for the explosive WTC demolitions -- they are an empirically obvious, scientifically established fact. Take off your cognitive blinders and watch General Stubblebine's interview (and WTC film) at the top of this thread. You and Walter are blinded/ "anchored" to the false government/Jerome Hauer "jet fuel" WTC narrative, as described by Ken Jenkins. If you still can't grasp that scientific fact, you both need to listen carefully to Jenkins' lecture. Revising your paradigm? Come on… lose the doublespeak. If you believe it was AA 77 say so. If you don’t, say so and explain what you do believe. Nice deflection/hijacking of another thread, "No Collusion," Harry. But you jumped from the frying pan into the fire. First you ducked U.S. Major General Stubblebine's poignant commentary about 9/11 being a false flag op-- the central subject of the thread. Then you praised 9/11 Truth scientist Ken Jenkins' interesting lecture about "anchoring" and cognitive bias, without even realizing that he was illustrating and condemning your 21 year denial of the obvious WTC explosive demolitions! Hoist by your own petard. Now you'll have to come clean about the WTC demolitions and the vanishing Antarctic ice. As for AA77 and the Pentagon, Jenkins made some excellent points, in addition to showing the photos that led to Thierry Meyssan's original "no plane" theory, and the photo I had never seen of the 96 foot wide hole on the exterior wall of the first floor. Jenkin's point about the CIA/military 9/11 black ops people using planes vs. simulating plane crashes is a good one. A Raytheon remotely-piloted Boeing maneuvering into the Pentagon wall through a steep 270 degree descending rotation is far more credible than the Bush/Cheney/Zelikow narrative about Saudi goatherd Hanzi Hanjour piloting the AA77 through those virtually impossible maneuvers. Hanjour couldn't even fly a Cessna. |
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 3, 2022 22:09:03 GMT -5
Revising your paradigm? Come on… lose the doublespeak. If you believe it was AA 77 say so. If you don’t, say so and explain what you do believe. Nice deflection/hijacking of another thread, "No Collusion," Harry. But you jumped from the frying pan into the fire. First you ducked U.S. Major General Stubblebine's poignant commentary about 9/11 being a false flag op-- the central subject of the thread. Then you praised 9/11 Truth scientist Ken Jenkins' interesting lecture about "anchoring" and cognitive bias, without even realizing that he was illustrating and condemning your 21 year denial of the obvious WTC explosive demolitions! Hoist by your own petard. Now you'll have to come clean about the WTC demolitions and the vanishing Antarctic ice. As for AA77 and the Pentagon, Jenkins made some excellent points, in addition to showing the photos that led to Thierry Meyssan's original "no plane" theory, and the photo I had never seen of the 96 foot wide hole on the exterior wall of the first floor. Jenkin's point about the CIA/military 9/11 black ops people using planes vs. simulating plane crashes is a good one. A Raytheon remotely-piloted Boeing maneuvering into the Pentagon wall through a steep 270 degree descending rotation is far more credible than the Bush/Cheney/Zelikow narrative about Saudi goatherd Hanzi Hanjour piloting the AA77 through those virtually impossible maneuvers. Hanjour couldn't even fly a Cessna. LOL. The words you’re looking for are “I was wrong all these years. AA 77 hit the Pentagon killing all 64 on board.” Man up and I’ll address your nonsense above. |
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 3, 2022 22:26:32 GMT -5
Nice deflection/hijacking of another thread, "No Collusion," Harry. But you jumped from the frying pan into the fire. First you ducked U.S. Major General Stubblebine's poignant commentary about 9/11 being a false flag op-- the central subject of the thread. Then you praised 9/11 Truth scientist Ken Jenkins' interesting lecture about "anchoring" and cognitive bias, without even realizing that he was illustrating and condemning your 21 year denial of the obvious WTC explosive demolitions! Hoist by your own petard. Now you'll have to come clean about the WTC demolitions and the vanishing Antarctic ice. As for AA77 and the Pentagon, Jenkins made some excellent points, in addition to showing the photos that led to Thierry Meyssan's original "no plane" theory, and the photo I had never seen of the 96 foot wide hole on the exterior wall of the first floor. Jenkin's point about the CIA/military 9/11 black ops people using planes vs. simulating plane crashes is a good one. A Raytheon remotely-piloted Boeing maneuvering into the Pentagon wall through a steep 270 degree descending rotation is far more credible than the Bush/Cheney/Zelikow narrative about Saudi goatherd Hanzi Hanjour piloting the AA77 through those virtually impossible maneuvers. Hanjour couldn't even fly a Cessna. LOL. The words you’re looking for are “I was wrong all these years. AA 77 hit the Pentagon killing all 64 on board.” Man up and I’ll address your nonsense above. Harry, You're an absolute joke, dude. You know it and I know it. For 21 years you have ridiculed the scientists, scholars, pilots, and engineers in the 9/11 Truth movement-- not realizing that they were absolutely right all along about the explosive demolitions of the World Trade Center skyscrapers. And you have consistently refused to admit that the serial explosions that demolished the towers and pulverized the concrete are clearly visible on the film! No wonder you have dodged General Stubblebine's film clip at the top of this thread! As for Ken Jenkins, go back and study your own film clip. Then apply his analysis of "anchoring" and confirmation bias to your own idiotic denial of the 9/11 scientific evidence. |
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 3, 2022 23:32:00 GMT -5
LOL. The words you’re looking for are “I was wrong all these years. AA 77 hit the Pentagon killing all 64 on board.” Man up and I’ll address your nonsense above. Harry, You're an absolute joke, dude. You know it and I know it. For 21 years you have ridiculed the scientists, scholars, pilots, and engineers in the 9/11 Truth movement-- not realizing that they were absolutely right all along about the explosive demolitions of the World Trade Center skyscrapers. And you have consistently refused to admit that the serial explosions that demolished the towers and pulverized the concrete are clearly visible on the film! No wonder you have dodged General Stubblebine's film clip at the top of this thread! As for Ken Jenkins, go back and study your own film clip. Then apply his analysis of "anchoring" and confirmation bias to your own idiotic denial of the 9/11 scientific evidence. Right all along? Just the opposite. Truth is Ken Jenkins, (“9-11 Truth Movement”) admitted he was wrong all along about what hit the Pentagon. And as an added bonus for you to choke on, I was right all along. Enjoy! |
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 3, 2022 23:56:05 GMT -5
Harry, You're an absolute joke, dude. You know it and I know it. For 21 years you have ridiculed the scientists, scholars, pilots, and engineers in the 9/11 Truth movement-- not realizing that they were absolutely right all along about the explosive demolitions of the World Trade Center skyscrapers. And you have consistently refused to admit that the serial explosions that demolished the towers and pulverized the concrete are clearly visible on the film! No wonder you have dodged General Stubblebine's film clip at the top of this thread! As for Ken Jenkins, go back and study your own film clip. Then apply his analysis of "anchoring" and confirmation bias to your own idiotic denial of the 9/11 scientific evidence. Right all along? Just the opposite. Truth is Ken Jenkins, (“9-11 Truth Movement”) admitted he was wrong all along about what hit the Pentagon. And as an added bonus for you to choke on, I was right all along. Enjoy! Harry, Get a clue. Ken Jenkins is part of the 9/11 Truth movement, along with thousands of other scientists, engineers, scholars, pilots, and military officers like the late Major General Albert Stubblebine. You, on the other hand, have always been a lying ass clown with no science background-- a denier of human caused climate change and of the obvious explosive demolitions of the WTC on 9/11. The CIA and U.S. military had successfully tested Raytheon's remote-piloting technology in Boeing jetliners by August of 2001. Jenkins point is a good one. It would have most likely been easier for Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz's PNAC 9/11 black ops guys to fly a Boeing 757 into the Pentagon than to simulate a plane crash. As Phillip Marshall and other pilots have pointed out, Hanjour could not have executed such a complex maneuver. The patsy couldn't even fly a Cessna. You still haven't even made it to first base in understanding the PNAC 9/11 op. I can post 1,000 facts that debunk your theory of 9/11. |
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 4, 2022 1:52:39 GMT -5
Right all along? Just the opposite. Truth is Ken Jenkins, (“9-11 Truth Movement”) admitted he was wrong all along about what hit the Pentagon. And as an added bonus for you to choke on, I was right all along. Enjoy! Harry, Get a clue. Ken Jenkins is part of the 9/11 Truth movement, along with thousands of other scientists, engineers, scholars, pilots, and military officers like the late Major General Albert Stubblebine. You, on the other hand, have always been a lying ass clown with no science background-- a denier of human caused climate change and of the obvious explosive demolitions of the WTC on 9/11. The CIA and U.S. military had successfully tested Raytheon's remote-piloting technology in Boeing jetliners by August of 2001. Jenkins point is a good one. It would have most likely been easier for Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz's PNAC 9/11 black ops guys to fly a Boeing 757 into the Pentagon than to simulate a plane crash. As Phillip Marshall and other pilots have pointed out, Hanjour could not have executed such a complex maneuver. The patsy couldn't even fly a Cessna. You still haven't even made it to first base in understanding the PNAC 9/11 op. I can post 1,000 facts that debunk your theory of 9/11. Aww…bless your heart. You’re cute when you’re angry. BTW Bill Nye, here’s something we both know about 9-11… I was right about the Pentagon all along and you were dead wrong. |
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 4, 2022 9:51:56 GMT -5
As for Ken Jenkins, go back and study your own film clip. Then apply his analysis of "anchoring" and confirmation bias to your own idiotic denial of the 9/11 scientific evidence. I agree with his point that we all have anchoring and confirmation bias. So, if we get into the WTC discussion, you will also be losing yours, right?
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 4, 2022 10:28:50 GMT -5
As for Ken Jenkins, go back and study your own film clip. Then apply his analysis of "anchoring" and confirmation bias to your own idiotic denial of the 9/11 scientific evidence. I agree with his point that we all have anchoring and confirmation bias. So, if we get into the WTC discussion, you will also be losing yours, right?
Harry, using your Bush/Cheney/Al Qaeda-Did-It paradigm, tell the forum how you explain the obvious, visible serial explosions that demolished the WTC Twin Towers on 9/11-- explosively pulverizing hundreds of thousands of tons of concrete into the atmosphere over Manhattan, and liquefying the steel girders.
No more of your endless bullshit and deflections.
Let's see if you can finally get to first base on 9/11.
Your explanation of the visible explosive demolitions goes here:
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 4, 2022 11:14:14 GMT -5
What a joke.
Harry, using your Bush/Cheney/Al Qaeda-Did-It paradigm, tell the forum how you explain the obvious, visible serial explosions that demolished the WTC Twin Towers on 9/11-- explosively pulverizing hundreds of thousands of tons of concrete into the atmosphere over Manhattan, and liquefying the steel girders.
No more of your endless bullshit and deflections.
Let's see if you can finally get to first base on 9/11.
Your explanation of the visible explosive demolitions goes here:
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Post by daleko on Nov 4, 2022 12:00:40 GMT -5
Major General Stubblebine: 9/11 Was a False Flag
Stubblebine:A key sponsor of the Stargate Project (a remote viewing project) at Fort Meade, Maryland, Stubblebine was convinced of the reality of a wide variety of psychic phenomena. He required that all of his battalion commanders learn how to bend spoons in the manner of celebrity psychic Uri Geller, and he himself attempted several psychic feats, in addition to walking through walls, such as levitation and dispersing distant clouds with his mind.
He thought it possible to create "a breed of 'super soldier'" who would "have the ability to become invisible at will and to walk through walls". BTW, a character in the movie The Men Who Stare at Goats was based on him.
After some controversy involving the experiments with psychic phenomena, Stubblebine took "early retirement" from the Army in 1984.
CIA Psy Ops campaign against Stubblebine contention by Willie in 3-2-1................. |
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 4, 2022 12:46:47 GMT -5
Major General Stubblebine: 9/11 Was a False Flag
Stubblebine:A key sponsor of the Stargate Project (a remote viewing project) at Fort Meade, Maryland, Stubblebine was convinced of the reality of a wide variety of psychic phenomena. He required that all of his battalion commanders learn how to bend spoons in the manner of celebrity psychic Uri Geller, and he himself attempted several psychic feats, in addition to walking through walls, such as levitation and dispersing distant clouds with his mind.
He thought it possible to create "a breed of 'super soldier'" who would "have the ability to become invisible at will and to walk through walls". BTW, a character in the movie The Men Who Stare at Goats was based on him.
After some controversy involving the experiments with psychic phenomena, Stubblebine took "early retirement" from the Army in 1984.
CIA Psy Ops campaign against Stubblebine contention by Willie in 3-2-1.................LOL. |
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 4, 2022 13:34:10 GMT -5
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Post by daleko on Nov 4, 2022 13:47:18 GMT -5
Now here's a guy Willie fits in with well.
Stubblebine:A key sponsor of the Stargate Project (a remote viewing project) at Fort Meade, Maryland, Stubblebine was convinced of the reality of a wide variety of psychic phenomena. He required that all of his battalion commanders learn how to bend spoons in the manner of celebrity psychic Uri Geller, and he himself attempted several psychic feats, in addition to walking through walls, such as levitation and dispersing distant clouds with his mind.
He thought it possible to create "a breed of 'super soldier'" who would "have the ability to become invisible at will and to walk through walls". BTW, a character in the movie The Men Who Stare at Goats was based on him.
After some controversy involving the experiments with psychic phenomena, Stubblebine took "early retirement" from the Army in 1984.
CIA Psy Ops campaign against Stubblebine contention by Willie in 3-2-1................. LOL. |
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