IF You want To Read Willie's Posts Before He Posts Them

[oujour76]

Nov 16, 2022 12:44:32 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Nov 16, 2022 12:22:37 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

LOL. The credentials fallacy smokescreen when you're losing an argument. Another of your go to tactics. You're as predictable as the sun rising in the east.

Hey, O'Chicken, you and Daleko are entitled to your own inaccurate, dishonest opinions, but not your own facts.

I have, repeatedly, posted the documentation  of these facts, (above) including the FBI files and the 9/11 Commission acknowledgement of the short selling.

The film speaks for itself.

Only a blind man or a bald-faced liar could look at that film and claim that he can't see the serial explosions.

A side step of the point I was making. Credentials fallacy is your Messiah complex...i.e. you have some kind of credentials that automatically make the arguments of others null and void. And FTR, you're very selective on using the credentials argument.

Speaking of having your own facts...fact is the Pentagon was hit by American Airlines Flight 77 with 64 people aboard. Their fate isn't a mystery, they died on impact. The science backs it all up as does common sense. You and your 'credentials' have been peddling falsehoods for 20+ years.

[oujour76]

Nov 16, 2022 12:44:32 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Nov 16, 2022 12:22:37 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

LOL. The credentials fallacy smokescreen when you're losing an argument. Another of your go to tactics. You're as predictable as the sun rising in the east.

Hey, O'Chicken, you and Daleko are entitled to your own inaccurate, dishonest opinions, but not your own facts.

I have, repeatedly, posted the documentation  of these facts, (above) including the FBI files and the 9/11 Commission acknowledgement of the short selling.

The film speaks for itself.

Only a blind man or a bald-faced liar could look at that film and claim that he can't see the serial explosions.

A side step of the point I was making. Credentials fallacy is your Messiah complex...i.e. you have some kind of credentials that automatically make the arguments of others null and void. And FTR, you're very selective on using the credentials argument.

Speaking of having your own facts...fact is the Pentagon was hit by American Airlines Flight 77 with 64 people aboard. Their fate isn't a mystery, they died on impact. The science backs it all up as does common sense. You and your 'credentials' have been peddling falsehoods for 20+ years.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Nov 16, 2022 13:44:35 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Nov 16, 2022 12:44:32 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Hey, O'Chicken, you and Daleko are entitled to your own inaccurate, dishonest opinions, but not your own facts.

I have, repeatedly, posted the documentation  of these facts, (above) including the FBI files and the 9/11 Commission acknowledgement of the short selling.

The film speaks for itself.

Only a blind man or a bald-faced liar could look at that film and claim that he can't see the serial explosions.

A side step of the point I was making. Credentials fallacy is your Messiah complex...i.e. you have some kind of credentials that automatically make the arguments of others null and void. And FTR, you're very selective on using the credentials argument.

Speaking of having your own facts...fact is the Pentagon was hit by American Airlines Flight 77 with 64 people aboard. Their fate isn't a mystery, they died on impact. The science backs it all up as does common sense. You and your 'credentials' have been peddling falsehoods for 20+ years.

Way to change the subject again, O'Chicken.  You still haven't made it to first base in understanding the 9/11 op.

We were talking about the facts that I asked Daleko to respond to above.

His inaccurate response was that these facts aren't facts.

1)  The visible serial WTC explosions.

2)  The five Mossad agents who were arrested after filming and celebrating the WTC demolitions on 9/11.

3)  The shorting of United and American Airlines stock before 9/11 by CIA comptroller Buzz Krongard's bank.

[daleko]

Nov 16, 2022 13:49:33 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Nov 16, 2022 13:44:35 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Way to change the subject again, O'Chicken.  You still haven't made it to first base in understanding the 9/11 op.

We were talking about the facts that I asked Daleko to respond to above.

His inaccurate response was that these facts aren't facts.

1)  The visible serial WTC explosions. Not to someone educated in Structural Engineering, which Willie is not. Trained or educated structural engineers and Architects well versed in not only building but blowing shit up don't rely on those videos for confirmation. MDs uneducated in either branch of Civil Engineering/Architecture, don't have a clue at what they are looking at or how they are being misled by conspiracy addicts.

2)  The five Mossad agents who were arrested after filming and celebrating the WTC demolitions on 9/11. No link to 9/11. 

3)  The shorting of United and American Airlines stock before 9/11 by CIA comptroller Buzz Krongard's bank. Nice add to the story. You could have included, Buzz Krongard's bank, who had a teller who was related, by marriage, to a Yale grad, who had a roommate, who was in the Skull and Bones Society, whose uncle was also in the S&B with the senior Bush, who had a girlfriend who had one date w Bush the younger and slept w him but never swallowed.

Anyway, a single U.S.-based institutional investor with no conceivable ties to 9/11 purchased 95 percent of the UAL puts on September 6 as part of a trading strategy that also included buying 115,000 shares of American on September 10. Similarly, much of the seemingly suspicious trading in American on September 10 was traced to a specific U.S.-based options trading newsletter, faxed to its subscribers on Sunday, September 9, which recommended these trades. The SEC and FBI, aided by other agencies and the securities industry, devoted enormous resources to investigating this issue, including securing the cooperation of many foreign governments. These investigators have found that the apparently suspicious consistently proved innocuous. In a word Bullshit to Willie's claim. This was discarded 20 years ago. Certainly, after the fact, individuals and institutions bought and sold airline stocks as part of a wealth management activity, in the face of a disaster. Happens every day. 

Fellas you will find all of this information on this board years ago posted by myself, Walter and Harry. I initially did much research because I had the time, then. Not only professional research, which Willie has zero knowledge on, but professional contacts and knowledgeable friends. Including a cpl of neighbors who worked for Boeing as Dir of Engineering on their engine programs incl RR. A 757 hit the Pentagon.

We, on this board, sent him packing the first time 6 yrs ago, then again each year or two since until he gave up a cpl of years ago. But back again he is. This time I am done, w no more time available for his rubbish. 

But this IS ALL  Rubbish. He get you to travel down several rabbit holes, each time he'll pop up another hole w another reason why his rubbish is valid. The conspiracy addict he follows work off web site hits, book sales and donations and Willie is front and center as a leading supporter. He has no first person contacts to confirm anything. He read a conspiracy book or 100 and stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, last night. That's it. That's all he has. Sad.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Nov 14, 2022 22:38:53 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Nov 14, 2022 22:04:03 GMT -5 daleko said:

It's all there fellas. Point by point. He got sent to the woodshed early and often. So often, he quit this site for a bit. Hence his posts are authored by deleted. But the posts, themselves are still there. 

O.K., Dumb Dumb, tell us what caused the obvious, visible serial explosions that explosively pulverized 900,000 tons of concrete in the Twin Towers and liquefied the steel girders.

Your Daleko "debunking" goes here: __________________________________________________________________________.

Then tells us how the five arrested Mossad agents working for Dominick Suter knew the Twin Towers were going to be demolished, and celebrated the demolitions while filming them.

Your Daleko "debunking" goes here:  ___________________________________________________________________________.

Then tell us why an investment bank managed by CIA accountant/controller Buzz Krongard shorted United and American Airlines stock before 9/11.

Your Daleko "debunking" goes here: _____________________________________________________________________________.

Coming up on 24 hours here.

Daleko still has nothing.  Zilch.

The guy is a complete moron-- and a dishonest moron to boot.

[daleko]

Nov 16, 2022 19:31:22 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Nov 14, 2022 22:38:53 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

O.K., Dumb Dumb, tell us what caused the obvious, visible serial explosions that explosively pulverized 900,000 tons of concrete in the Twin Towers and liquefied the steel girders.

Your Daleko "debunking" goes here: __________________________________________________________________________.

Then tells us how the five arrested Mossad agents working for Dominick Suter knew the Twin Towers were going to be demolished, and celebrated the demolitions while filming them.

Your Daleko "debunking" goes here:  ___________________________________________________________________________.

Then tell us why an investment bank managed by CIA accountant/controller Buzz Krongard shorted United and American Airlines stock before 9/11.

Your Daleko "debunking" goes here: _____________________________________________________________________________.

Coming up on 24 hours here.

Daleko still has nothing.  Zilch.

The guy is a complete moron-- and a dishonest moron to boot.

Answered above fellas. Willie is a misguided soul.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Nov 16, 2022 23:13:57 GMT -5 daleko said:

Nov 16, 2022 19:31:22 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Coming up on 24 hours here.

Daleko still has nothing.  Zilch.

The guy is a complete moron-- and a dishonest moron to boot.

Answered above fellas. Willie is a misguided soul.

Daleko,

    Post your non-existent "debunking" of the three specific items I listed here.

    You've got nothing.

[cbisbig]

Nov 16, 2022 23:28:11 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Nov 16, 2022 23:13:57 GMT -5 daleko said:

Answered above fellas. Willie is a misguided soul.

Daleko,

    Post your non-existent "debunking" of the three specific items I listed here.

    You've got nothing.

LOL
WOW
you are a diluted fruitcake

[DrSchadenfreude]

Nov 17, 2022 2:38:37 GMT -5 cbisbig said:

Nov 16, 2022 23:28:11 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Daleko,

    Post your non-existent "debunking" of the three specific items I listed here.

    You've got nothing.

LOL
WOW
you are a diluted fruitcake

"Diluted"

Geez, the Daleko caliber stupidity on this forum in mind boggling.

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for Daleko to post his alleged "debunking" of the scientific and forensic FACTS about the explosive WTC demolitions, the five arrested Mossad agents from Urban Moving Systems in Weehawken, and Krongard's short-selling of United and American Airlines stock just before 9/11.

[oujour76]

Nov 17, 2022 9:59:42 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Nov 17, 2022 2:38:37 GMT -5 cbisbig said:

LOL
WOW
you are a diluted fruitcake

"Diluted"

Geez, the Daleko caliber stupidity on this forum in mind boggling.

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for Daleko to post his alleged "debunking" of the scientific and forensic FACTS about the explosive WTC demolitions, the five arrested Mossad agents from Urban Moving Systems in Weehawken, and Krongard's short-selling of United and American Airlines stock just before 9/11.

A sure sign of a losing argument is when you become the typo police.

[daleko]

Nov 16, 2022 23:28:11 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Nov 16, 2022 23:13:57 GMT -5 daleko said:

Answered above fellas. Willie is a misguided soul.

Daleko,

    Post your non-existent "debunking" of the three specific items I listed here.

    You've got nothing.

Did it. Now you need to read what I wrote. And that's it for me. Don't want to read it? <shrug>

Posting w you is like trying to play whack a mole. And after any interchange, I feel like I need to take a shower.

Building things, destroying things and gathering intelligence is something I know.  But you go ahead and listen to the fools that are leading you astray. I have two sons, both engineers, one who builds commercial buildings and the other a Mech/Aero Engineer and they both think you are an idiot. Or you are just playing a game. The fellow I asked you to call in Joberg, SA is an old chum and an American who went and started his business in Africa after graduation. He demolishes buildings for a living, throughout Africa. Another engineer who thinks you are an idiot. The Engineer who was the Eng Dir for Boeing and their alliance w RR to provide engines, and a neighbor, thinks you are an idiot for thinking a missile flew into the Pente.

Anyone who wants to continue to have discourse w him, stick w the Pente event. And don't let him pivot. That plane was visually seen flying into the building and parts left match a 757. The rest of his argument is moot. 

A group of Rags flew airplanes into buildings and into the ground. The result of their actions destroyed assets, killed people and started a war.

I am, again, done. Now I need to take another shower. Oh and we can start this up again in three years, if this site is still up. We'll title it the 10 yr anniversary of your stupidity.

See ya.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Nov 17, 2022 13:14:13 GMT -5 daleko said:

Nov 16, 2022 23:28:11 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Daleko,

    Post your non-existent "debunking" of the three specific items I listed here.

    You've got nothing.

Did it. Now you need to read what I wrote. And that's it for me. Don't want to read it? <shrug>

Posting w you is like trying to play whack a mole. And after any interchange, I feel like I need to take a shower.

Building things, destroying things and gathering intelligence is something I know.  But you go ahead and listen to the fools that are leading you astray. I have two sons, both engineers, one who builds commercial buildings and the other a Mech/Aero Engineer and they both think you are an idiot. Or you are just playing a game. The fellow I asked you to call in Joberg, SA is an old chum and an American who went and started his business in Africa after graduation. He demolishes buildings for a living, throughout Africa. Another engineer who thinks you are an idiot. The Engineer who was the Eng Dir for Boeing and their alliance w RR to provide engines, and a neighbor, thinks you are an idiot for thinking a missile flew into the Pente.

Anyone who wants to continue to have discourse w him, stick w the Pente event. And don't let him pivot. That plane was visually seen flying into the building and parts left match a 757. The rest of his argument is moot. 

A group of Rags flew airplanes into buildings and into the ground. The result of their actions destroyed assets, killed people and started a war.

I am, again, done. Now I need to take another shower. Oh and we can start this up again in three years, if this site is still up. We'll title it the 10 yr anniversary of your stupidity.

See ya.

Got it, Dumb Dumb.  You bought the official PNAC psy op narrative about Muslim hijackers doing 9/11.

Did you know that the Mossad demolition crew dressed up like Arabs to blow up the King David Hotel?

They did the same thing in the Lavon Affair.  It's an old false flag trick.

Now, tell us;

1)  Who put the explosives in the WTC Towers that are clearly visible on film?  Muslims?

2)   How did Muslims with explosives access Larry Silverstein's WTC skyscrapers prior to 9/11?

3)   How did the Mossad know the buildings were going to be explosively demolished?

4)   Why was the Mossad celebrating as they filmed the WTC demolitions on 9/11?  We have those FBI photos now--they were obtained through an FOIA lawsuit, and I posted that reference for your dumb ass.

5)   How did PNAC comptroller at the CIA, Buzz Krongard, know that United and American Airlines stock would plunge after 9/11?

[daleko]

Nov 17, 2022 13:56:30 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Nov 17, 2022 13:14:13 GMT -5 daleko said:

Did it. Now you need to read what I wrote. And that's it for me. Don't want to read it? <shrug>

Posting w you is like trying to play whack a mole. And after any interchange, I feel like I need to take a shower.

Building things, destroying things and gathering intelligence is something I know.  But you go ahead and listen to the fools that are leading you astray. I have two sons, both engineers, one who builds commercial buildings and the other a Mech/Aero Engineer and they both think you are an idiot. Or you are just playing a game. The fellow I asked you to call in Joberg, SA is an old chum and an American who went and started his business in Africa after graduation. He demolishes buildings for a living, throughout Africa. Another engineer who thinks you are an idiot. The Engineer who was the Eng Dir for Boeing and their alliance w RR to provide engines, and a neighbor, thinks you are an idiot for thinking a missile flew into the Pente.

Anyone who wants to continue to have discourse w him, stick w the Pente event. And don't let him pivot. That plane was visually seen flying into the building and parts left match a 757. The rest of his argument is moot. 

A group of Rags flew airplanes into buildings and into the ground. The result of their actions destroyed assets, killed people and started a war.

I am, again, done. Now I need to take another shower. Oh and we can start this up again in three years, if this site is still up. We'll title it the 10 yr anniversary of your stupidity.

See ya.

Got it, Dumb Dumb.  You bought the official PNAC psy op narrative about Muslim hijackers doing 9/11.

Did you know that the Mossad demolition crew dressed up like Arabs to blow up the King David Hotel?

They did the same thing in the Lavon Affair.  It's an old false flag trick.

Now, tell us;

1)  Who put the explosives in the WTC Towers that are clearly visible on film?  Muslims?

2)   How did Muslims with explosives access Larry Silverstein's WTC skyscrapers prior to 9/11?

3)   How did the Mossad know the buildings were going to be explosively demolished?

4)   Why was the Mossad celebrating as they filmed the WTC demolitions on 9/11?  We have those FBI photos now--they were obtained through an FOIA lawsuit, and I posted that reference for your dumb ass.

5)   How did PNAC comptroller at the CIA, Buzz Krongard, know that United and American Airlines stock would plunge after 9/11?

I'll say this one LAST time. I'm done w this stupidity and your made up "facts". The Conspiracy addicts just continue to create facts, facts that don't exist, to extend this idiocy. The stock story has been debunked and called rubbish for decades, as I already noted.

Done. Bye bye.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Nov 17, 2022 14:36:43 GMT -5 daleko said:

Nov 17, 2022 13:56:30 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Got it, Dumb Dumb.  You bought the official PNAC psy op narrative about Muslim hijackers doing 9/11.

Did you know that the Mossad demolition crew dressed up like Arabs to blow up the King David Hotel?

They did the same thing in the Lavon Affair.  It's an old false flag trick.

Now, tell us;

1)  Who put the explosives in the WTC Towers that are clearly visible on film?  Muslims?

2)   How did Muslims with explosives access Larry Silverstein's WTC skyscrapers prior to 9/11?

3)   How did the Mossad know the buildings were going to be explosively demolished?

4)   Why was the Mossad celebrating as they filmed the WTC demolitions on 9/11?  We have those FBI photos now--they were obtained through an FOIA lawsuit, and I posted that reference for your dumb ass.

5)   How did PNAC comptroller at the CIA, Buzz Krongard, know that United and American Airlines stock would plunge after 9/11?

I'll say this one LAST time. I'm done w this stupidity and your made up "facts". The Conspiracy addicts just continue to create facts, facts that don't exist, to extend this idiocy. The stock story has been debunked and called rubbish for decades, as I already noted.

Done. Bye bye.

All of these facts I referenced are verified.

So, enjoy your delusional fantasy world and pretend they aren't facts, if you insist.

I'm, frankly, tired of confronting your delusions.

[AlaCowboy]

Nov 15, 2022 20:09:25 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Still waiting for Harry and Daleko to post their ballyhooed "debunking."

Neither guy has a base hit yet when it comes to understanding the true facts about PNAC's 9/11 op.

Some guys are slow learners.

And some guys never learn, especially when they are "anchored" to endlessly repeated, false government/M$M narratives.

In fact, the rare guys (less rare in Europe) who understand 9/11 are scientifically educated and intellectually curious.

That rules out Daleko and Harry.

Speaking of debunking:
Why have you never posted any live interviews from even one person that was on the flight manifests of the hijacked and crashed planes? Even one interview would blow the whole conspiracy wide open. Think of the millions you could make from exposing it all. Maybe even post a live interview with one of the hundreds of explosive experts that spent weeks rigging explosives in the WTC buildings.