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Post by snap infraction on Nov 19, 2024 13:27:16 GMT -5
whenever a professional athlete came out in support of anything liberal, all i heard was collective outrage from conservatives. conservatives often take the view that famous people shouldn't express political opinions if they happen to disagree with those opinions. remember "shut up and dribble"? the funny thing to me is the hypocrisy. my opinion is that anybody, even those with a platform, should be able to express their political opinions if they choose to do so. if this trump dance is their way to express joy, then go for it. doesn't bother me. i just ask that when an athlete shows support for a position conservatives may disagree with, they extend the same respect. So because you're OK with a football player doing the "Trump dance", we should be OK with athletes kneeling during the anthem or turning their backs on the flag? Sorry. No. i didn't use the kneeling during the athem as my example. i used laura Ingraham's comments to lebron james "shut up and dribble" as my example. although i will admit that the routine of conservatives manufacturing outrage and shoving faux patriotism down our throats are great examples of other annoyances. but those are separate topics. my point is conservatives are insular, overly sensitive and fragile to the point that they are unable to handle it when people express opinions they disagree with
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Post by Panama pfRedd on Nov 19, 2024 13:40:54 GMT -5
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Post by canefan on Nov 19, 2024 15:57:52 GMT -5
So because you're OK with a football player doing the "Trump dance", we should be OK with athletes kneeling during the anthem or turning their backs on the flag? Sorry. No. i didn't use the kneeling during the athem as my example. i used laura Ingraham's comments to lebron james "shut up and dribble" as my example. although i will admit that the routine of conservatives manufacturing outrage and shoving faux patriotism down our throats are great examples of other annoyances. but those are separate topics. my point is conservatives are insular, overly sensitive and fragile to the point that they are unable to handle it when people express opinions they disagree with Lol! Right. A conservative doesn't want a gun he doesn't buy one. A liberal doesn't want a gun he doesn't want anyone to have one.
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Post by snap infraction on Nov 20, 2024 9:29:02 GMT -5
i didn't use the kneeling during the athem as my example. i used laura Ingraham's comments to lebron james "shut up and dribble" as my example. although i will admit that the routine of conservatives manufacturing outrage and shoving faux patriotism down our throats are great examples of other annoyances. but those are separate topics. my point is conservatives are insular, overly sensitive and fragile to the point that they are unable to handle it when people express opinions they disagree with Lol! Right. A conservative doesn't want a gun he doesn't buy one. A liberal doesn't want a gun he doesn't want anyone to have one. i can't speak for every liberal. i'm sure lots of liberal own guns. kamala even owned a gun. i don't personally own a gun but i do not judge others who value the comfort and safety owning a gun brings. my issue is the interpretation of the first and 2nd amendments. first amendment is subject to reasonable restrictions (can't yell fire in a theatre) but second amendment is absolute and not subject to any restrictions. that's where i take issue.
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 20, 2024 10:25:37 GMT -5
Lol! Right. A conservative doesn't want a gun he doesn't buy one. A liberal doesn't want a gun he doesn't want anyone to have one. i can't speak for every liberal. i'm sure lots of liberal own guns. kamala even owned a gun. i don't personally own a gun but i do not judge others who value the comfort and safety owning a gun brings. my issue is the interpretation of the first and 2nd amendments. first amendment is subject to reasonable restrictions (can't yell fire in a theatre) but second amendment is absolute and not subject to any restrictions. that's where i take issue. Second amendment has no restrictions? Not sure where you’re getting that idea…
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Post by canefan on Nov 20, 2024 10:29:10 GMT -5
Lol! Right. A conservative doesn't want a gun he doesn't buy one. A liberal doesn't want a gun he doesn't want anyone to have one. i can't speak for every liberal. i'm sure lots of liberal own guns. kamala even owned a gun. i don't personally own a gun but i do not judge others who value the comfort and safety owning a gun brings. my issue is the interpretation of the first and 2nd amendments. first amendment is subject to reasonable restrictions (can't yell fire in a theatre) but second amendment is absolute and not subject to any restrictions. that's where i take issue. Well first, I doubt a lot of folks believe Kamala owns a gun. Next, the right to free speech is of course more fluid than the right to own a gun. Owning a gun is black and white. You do or you don't. Now, is it legal for you, as a gun ownership, to brandish said weapon in a crowded theater and cause a stampede? No. The real difference i see is liberals only want speech they agree with to be protected. Free speech means protecting the right to say things you don't like.
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Post by snap infraction on Nov 20, 2024 10:36:30 GMT -5
i can't speak for every liberal. i'm sure lots of liberal own guns. kamala even owned a gun. i don't personally own a gun but i do not judge others who value the comfort and safety owning a gun brings. my issue is the interpretation of the first and 2nd amendments. first amendment is subject to reasonable restrictions (can't yell fire in a theatre) but second amendment is absolute and not subject to any restrictions. that's where i take issue. Second amendment has no restrictions? Not sure where you’re getting that idea… not saying there are no restrictions, i'm just saying the argument i see being made is that there should be no restrictions.
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 20, 2024 10:40:35 GMT -5
Second amendment has no restrictions? Not sure where you’re getting that idea… not saying there are no restrictions, i'm just saying the argument i see being made is that there should be no restrictions. Who is making that argument?
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Post by snap infraction on Nov 20, 2024 11:41:24 GMT -5
not saying there are no restrictions, i'm just saying the argument i see being made is that there should be no restrictions. Who is making that argument? the NRA and anyone else who argues the literal definition of "shall not be infringed"
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 20, 2024 12:51:45 GMT -5
Who is making that argument? the NRA and anyone else who argues the literal definition of "shall not be infringed" I guess they haven’t gotten their way seeing how there are literally thousands of gun laws on the books.
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Post by trnyerheadncough on Nov 20, 2024 12:54:41 GMT -5
the NRA and anyone else who argues the literal definition of "shall not be infringed" I guess they haven’t gotten their way seeing how there are literally thousands of gun laws on the books. Except where they have in doing anything to address rampant gun violence and mass shootings in schools, churches, businesses, etc.
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Post by snap infraction on Nov 20, 2024 13:23:30 GMT -5
the NRA and anyone else who argues the literal definition of "shall not be infringed" I guess they haven’t gotten their way seeing how there are literally thousands of gun laws on the books. give it some time. republicans are now back in power.
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 20, 2024 13:27:58 GMT -5
I guess they haven’t gotten their way seeing how there are literally thousands of gun laws on the books. give it some time. republicans are now back in power. Meaning what, exactly?
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Post by snap infraction on Nov 20, 2024 15:07:57 GMT -5
give it some time. republicans are now back in power. Meaning what, exactly? i am speculating that there will be less gun laws on the books in the near future.
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 20, 2024 15:47:29 GMT -5
i am speculating that there will be less gun laws on the books in the near future. Got it.
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