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Nov 13, 2024 15:46:12 GMT -5
Post by Buckeye Dale on Nov 13, 2024 15:46:12 GMT -5
Again, not as AVID as I once was, but still a baseball fan...
Last night, I was surfing channels and on MLB, I came across a title as above...Don't know yet, but last night's venture was Starting Pitchers...The top 9 since integration in 1947, I think it was...kept my interest for the entire time slot...
There are some boundaries/parameters, but this being my first watch, I haven't looked it all up yet. Anyways, their top 9 follows:
#9 - Clayton Kershaw
#8 - Nolan Ryan
#7 - Sandy Koufax
#6 - Pedro Martinez
#5 - Roger Clemens
#4 - Greg Maddux
#3 - Warren Spahn
#2 - Tom Seaver
#1 - Randy Johnson
On the surface, pretty good start...haven't had time to really go over the list & compare to come up with any differences...but anyways, I thought I'd put it out here so anyone else could check it out & give an opinion...
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Nov 13, 2024 15:58:21 GMT -5
Post by Walter on Nov 13, 2024 15:58:21 GMT -5
Good list. Off the top of my head, I'd add Bob Gibson and Steve Carlton.
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Nov 13, 2024 17:03:12 GMT -5
Post by Mickey34jb on Nov 13, 2024 17:03:12 GMT -5
since integration in 1947__so that's maybe why Bob Feller was off the list. He played from '36 to '56 minus 4 years for the war effort. He still should be there
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Nov 13, 2024 18:22:37 GMT -5
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 13, 2024 18:22:37 GMT -5
Again, not as AVID as I once was, but still a baseball fan... Last night, I was surfing channels and on MLB, I came across a title as above...Don't know yet, but last night's venture was Starting Pitchers...The top 9 since integration in 1947, I think it was...kept my interest for the entire time slot... There are some boundaries/parameters, but this being my first watch, I haven't looked it all up yet. Anyways, their top 9 follows: #9 - Clayton Kershaw #8 - Nolan Ryan #7 - Sandy Koufax #6 - Pedro Martinez #5 - Roger Clemens #4 - Greg Maddux #3 - Warren Spahn #2 - Tom Seaver #1 - Randy Johnson On the surface, pretty good start...haven't had time to really go over the list & compare to come up with any differences...but anyways, I thought I'd put it out here so anyone else could check it out & give an opinion... Bob Gibson? Hard to leave him off… |
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Nov 13, 2024 20:01:28 GMT -5
Post by Buckeye Dale on Nov 13, 2024 20:01:28 GMT -5
Again, not as AVID as I once was, but still a baseball fan... Last night, I was surfing channels and on MLB, I came across a title as above...Don't know yet, but last night's venture was Starting Pitchers...The top 9 since integration in 1947, I think it was...kept my interest for the entire time slot... There are some boundaries/parameters, but this being my first watch, I haven't looked it all up yet. Anyways, their top 9 follows: #9 - Clayton Kershaw #8 - Nolan Ryan #7 - Sandy Koufax #6 - Pedro Martinez #5 - Roger Clemens #4 - Greg Maddux #3 - Warren Spahn #2 - Tom Seaver #1 - Randy Johnson On the surface, pretty good start...haven't had time to really go over the list & compare to come up with any differences...but anyways, I thought I'd put it out here so anyone else could check it out & give an opinion... Bob Gibson? Hard to leave him off… Off the top of my head, I tend to agree with you. But as I said, there were other requirements/parameters, & could be he missed out on something. And if you add Gibson, which of those nine do you eliminate? |
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Nov 13, 2024 20:42:34 GMT -5
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 13, 2024 20:42:34 GMT -5
Bob Gibson? Hard to leave him off… Off the top of my head, I tend to agree with you. But as I said, there were other requirements/parameters, & could be he missed out on something. And if you add Gibson, which of those nine do you eliminate? Kershaw or Pedro. |
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Nov 13, 2024 21:45:01 GMT -5
Post by mscott59 on Nov 13, 2024 21:45:01 GMT -5
Off the top of my head, I tend to agree with you. But as I said, there were other requirements/parameters, & could be he missed out on something. And if you add Gibson, which of those nine do you eliminate? Kershaw or Pedro. I'd take off maddux to add gibson, martinez to add feller, and imho there's no way you put anyone ahead of koufax. but definitely an intriguing 'best of' list concept. |
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Nov 14, 2024 10:40:31 GMT -5
Post by Buckeye Dale on Nov 14, 2024 10:40:31 GMT -5
LOL...Last night, before bed, I checked the menu for the rest of the night, and recorded the 'next' episode...I had been under the impression this was a relatively new project. I got up a couple hours before Sharon, and watched the recording...first aired on 7/20/2011. Episode 13 was Relief Pitchers...
9 - Bruce Sutter
8 - Billy Wagner
7 - Lee Smith
6 - Dennis Eckersley
5 - Rollie Fingers
4 - Goose Gossage
3 - Trevor Hoffman
2 - Hoyt Wilhelm
1 - Mariano Rivera (of course)
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Nov 20, 2024 14:14:25 GMT -5
Post by Buckeye Dale on Nov 20, 2024 14:14:25 GMT -5
Recorded Episode 1 last night...CFs...
9 - Kirby Puckett
8 - Richie Ashburn
7 - Andruw Jones
6 - Carlos Beltran
5 - Duke Snider
4 - Mike Trout
3 - Ken Griffey jr
2 - Mickey Mantle
1 - Willie Mays
Personally, growing up in the middle of the Mantle, Mays, Snider debates...most of the others seem like imposters.
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Nov 20, 2024 15:52:07 GMT -5
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 20, 2024 15:52:07 GMT -5
Recorded Episode 1 last night...CFs... 9 - Kirby Puckett 8 - Richie Ashburn 7 - Andruw Jones 6 - Carlos Beltran 5 - Duke Snider 4 - Mike Trout 3 - Ken Griffey jr 2 - Mickey Mantle 1 - Willie Mays Personally, growing up in the middle of the Mantle, Mays, Snider debates...most of the others seem like imposters. In his day Griffey was pretty damn good. Just saying. As was Jim Edmonds. |
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Nov 20, 2024 18:51:17 GMT -5
Post by Buckeye Dale on Nov 20, 2024 18:51:17 GMT -5
Recorded Episode 1 last night...CFs... 9 - Kirby Puckett 8 - Richie Ashburn 7 - Andruw Jones 6 - Carlos Beltran 5 - Duke Snider 4 - Mike Trout 3 - Ken Griffey jr 2 - Mickey Mantle 1 - Willie Mays Personally, growing up in the middle of the Mantle, Mays, Snider debates...most of the others seem like imposters. In his day Griffey was pretty damn good. Just saying. As was Jim Edmonds. ...and that is why I said MOST of the others... <g> My first glove had the Richie Ashburn sig in the pocket. LONG time ago... |
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 20, 2024 19:17:51 GMT -5
In his day Griffey was pretty damn good. Just saying. As was Jim Edmonds. ...and that is why I said MOST of the others... <g> My first glove had the Richie Ashburn sig in the pocket. LONG time ago... That’s because you’re old. 😎😂 |
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Nov 20, 2024 20:10:16 GMT -5
Post by Buckeye Dale on Nov 20, 2024 20:10:16 GMT -5
...and that is why I said MOST of the others... <g> My first glove had the Richie Ashburn sig in the pocket. LONG time ago... That’s because you’re old. 😎😂 ...yeah, and you ain't far behind me, are ya?  |
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Post by mscott59 on Nov 20, 2024 22:12:20 GMT -5
Recorded Episode 1 last night...CFs... 9 - Kirby Puckett 8 - Richie Ashburn 7 - Andruw Jones 6 - Carlos Beltran 5 - Duke Snider 4 - Mike Trout 3 - Ken Griffey jr 2 - Mickey Mantle 1 - Willie Mays Personally, growing up in the middle of the Mantle, Mays, Snider debates...most of the others seem like imposters. In his day Griffey was pretty damn good. Just saying. As was Jim Edmonds. kenny lofton probably is 2nd 10 at best in the eyes of many, but I think he had top 10 stats at the plate, in the field and on the bases. below is from mlb.com on some should/could be hof's; By the numbers, Lofton has a real Hall of Fame case, but he might have been hurt by being a contact hitter and speedster in a power-hitting age. His 622 stolen bases rank 15th all-time, and he led the AL in steals five straight seasons from 1992-96 while leading the Majors three of those years. Lofton made six straight All-Star teams from '94-99 and placed in the MVP voting four times, finishing as high as fourth. He was an excellent defender, winning four straight Gold Glove Awards in center field from 1993-96. Lofton's 68.4 career WAR ranks ninth all-time among center fielders. He's one of only nine players with 600 career steals and 600 extra-base hits; he's the only one not in the Hall of Fame |
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 20, 2024 22:25:47 GMT -5
That’s because you’re old. 😎😂 ...yeah, and you ain't far behind me, are ya? Nope, but I never had a Richie Ashburn glove. Waaaay before my time. 😂 |
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