Matt Gaetz for Attorney General? Seriously?

[AlaCowboy]

Nov 13, 2024 18:34:47 GMT -5 Walter said:

Nov 13, 2024 18:19:49 GMT -5 Mickey34jb said:

Does he get confirmed? There are a good number of Republicans that don't like him.

At least Trump answered my Q earlier today about why he would bother with recess appointments when the GOP has the majority...
He may HAVE to do it with a recess appt.
Should be fun to see how much institutional backbone the GOP rank and file actually have. I tend to agree with CWG...A GOP senator's kids should be afraid...

Well, we won't have Biden to fondle little girls on live TV any more.

[nu5ncbigred]

Nov 13, 2024 18:41:40 GMT -5 canefan said:

Nov 13, 2024 18:06:39 GMT -5 Walter said:

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-nominates-rep-matt-gaetz-outspoken-ally-as-attorney-general/ar-AA1u2os8?ocid=msedgntphdr&cvid=db07a46895ba4d41e348d5e2f0b0e7af&ei=13

This one's a head scratcher for me. I do know a lot of the more extreme Republicans like him. For me, it would get him out of the House.

Exactly. No more bringing down a speaker over petty differences. I don’t think he will be confirmed but he may provide cover for others to do so while opposition galvanizes around him.

[Walter]

Gaetz has put his trust in Trump having his back and has resigned from his House seat.

I think he is in for a political career ending surprise if Trump perceives that the choice did not benefit Trump.

[canefan]

Nov 14, 2024 5:44:07 GMT -5 Walter said:

Gaetz has put his trust in Trump having his back and has resigned from his House seat.

I think he is in for a political career ending surprise if Trump perceives that the choice did not benefit Trump.

I honestly don't think he can get through confirmation in a Republican majority Senate. He's not a popular guy and a bit of a dickhead.

[cbisbig]

Nov 13, 2024 20:19:25 GMT -5 trnyerheadncough said:

Nov 13, 2024 20:09:05 GMT -5 cbisbig said:

Great pick.👍

Not really. By any objective metric.

Matter of opinion

[cbisbig]

Nov 13, 2024 19:23:26 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

I think nominating someone currently being investigated by his own party in congress for having sex with minors is a bad choice.

That case was dropped because there was nothing to it.

[trnyerheadncough]

Nov 14, 2024 7:47:55 GMT -5 cbisbig said:

Nov 13, 2024 20:19:25 GMT -5 trnyerheadncough said:

Not really. By any objective metric.

Matter of opinion

True, but when even a sizable portion of the folks who share your political views think he’s a terrible pick, I’m pretty comfortable in mine.

[trnyerheadncough]

Nov 14, 2024 7:51:01 GMT -5 cbisbig said:

Nov 13, 2024 19:23:26 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

I think nominating someone currently being investigated by his own party in congress for having sex with minors is a bad choice.

That case was dropped because there was nothing to it.

That’s not exactly correct.

[canefan]

Nov 14, 2024 7:51:01 GMT -5 cbisbig said:

Nov 13, 2024 19:23:26 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

I think nominating someone currently being investigated by his own party in congress for having sex with minors is a bad choice.

That case was dropped because there was nothing to it.

I believe he was still facing an ethics hearing but that now goes away with his resignation.

[Panama pfRedd]

Here's something to think about...Assuming Trump is expecting a difficult confirmation for Gaetz, and let's say Trump is calculating he needs a backup plan to get him through, so he's looking at Recess Appointment(s). Imagine if he even thinking, we should have a backup plan for the backup plan, just in case...Gaetz has already resigned and some RINOs may be thinking this is a chance to deny Gaetz confirmation, and possibly give the middle finger to Trump. Well, as Rubio has been nominated for Secretary of State, once he's confirmed, should things go south for Gaetz's confirmation, DeSantis could make him a Senator...Boom!

[Panama pfRedd]

And then there's this:

Matt Gaetz is a Brilliant Pick
Erick-Woods Erickson
Nov 14

Congressman Matt Gaetz of Florida is a brilliant pick for Attorney General. Overnight, he resigned his House seat after just getting re-elected. While some think Florida should, logistically, be able to call and hold a special election for Gaetz’s seat prior to January 3, 2025, given Gaetz’s resignation last night as confirmed by Speaker Mike Johnson, most elections lawyers I have spoken to think that might not be possible.

It should be noted that Speaker Johnson is the happiest man on earth today. Gaetz allegedly had been plotting behind the scenes to find someone to challenge Johnson, but that ended last night.

Gaetz has burned every possible bridge in the House of Representatives, and his colleagues want him gone. The House Ethics Committee intended to vote in two days to release its investigation into Gaetz and human trafficking. Only one Republican on the Ethics Committee needed to vote yes, and that would happen. If the Senate holds hearings, that will still come up. Gaetz’s departure last night killed the investigation. That suggests that this nomination is to provide pre-text for Gaetz’s resignation, and the subtext is a congressional finding that Gaetz possibly engaged in sex trafficking of young women.

Senate Republicans have no desire to confirm him. Some of those Senators just got elected to six-year terms and will outlast Donald Trump. Others do not care because they either have four years or are retiring. Gaetz can only lose four.

Susan Collins is a no. I suspect Mitch McConnell is a no. Lisa Murkowski? I doubt she’d support him. Tom Tillis? Really? Bill Cassidy?


Late last night, Senator Mullin suggested he would be a no vote.

Both of Donald Trump’s prior Attorneys General started as MAGA heroes and ended as MAGA villains. Jeff Sessions was ridiculed and laughed out of office after being celebrated as a brilliant pick. Bill Barr was branded a traitor.

Either Matt Gaetz is not confirmed and goes through a Cersei Lannister shaming that destroys his gubernatorial bid in 2026, or he gets a recess appointment into the office where he becomes the fall guy for Trump.

So Gaetz will either have to be highly successful in his position, or he will, like Icarus, crash after getting too close to the sun.

In the meantime, Donald Trump must show the American public that he is competent. Suppose Gaetz, Noem, Tulsi Gabbard, etc. prove inept. In that case, the GOP will be destroyed in 2026, and MAGA will have to rethink itself with Vance in 2028 to survive the wrath of voters willing to throw out parties in Washington that fail to deliver continually.

Donald Trump must get three things right — the border, crime, and the economy.

On the border, he has pleased no one, including his MAGA base, with Kristi Noem, whose incompetent leadership in South Dakota saw her fight for closures during COVID and fight for trans-rights due to her donors until Republicans overwhelmingly opposed both, and she pivoted to take credit for the GOP’s positions. Noem caved to the NCAA on trans issues.

On crime, Gaetz can perhaps purge the bureaucracy of those opposed to Trump, but he practiced law for 25 months before taking his seat in Congress. Ever since, he has been mired in scandal. But his pick has, overnight, improved the morale of the House GOP with his departure.

Let Donald Trump have his cabinet. In two years, let the voters judge the GOP and Trump on his picks.

Either we will have results or a body count as Trump runs over and destroys people like Gaetz.

But the reality is, I suspect, that Trump is rewarding Gaetz for his loyalty while knowing the Senate will never confirm him. That makes Gaetz a brilliant pick. Trump gets to reward his friend while feeding Gaetz to the lions. Good riddance.

Gaetz’s pick not only spares the House Republicans his presence but probably saves the Florida GOP a messy primary for Governor in 2026 because Gaetz will either be in DC or in tatters.

Don’t be surprised if Gaetz’s nomination never actually advances. His resignation ended the congressional investigation into allegations he participated in sex trafficking. Don’t be surprised if that report leaks. But he can say he left to be AG, even if he never gets there. He’ll blame the RINOs and get a TV contract. He gets an exit to escape the investigation and never gets to the Department of Justice.

With that, Trump improved the House GOP conference and helped Byron Donalds’ Florida gubernatorial bid in 2026.

By the way, a friend emailed this last night, though he said he can’t take credit for it:

A lot of people don’t know that Matt Gaetz is a quiet hero in his community. Some years ago, a young girl was crossing at a crosswalk when a drunk driver sped toward her. He would’ve hit her, and probably killed her, except that a man threw himself between the girl and the car. That Good Samaritan was injured, but the girl’s life was saved. That hero? Matt Gaetz.

[trnyerheadncough]

Nov 14, 2024 11:46:35 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

And then there's this:

Matt Gaetz is a Brilliant Pick
Erick-Woods Erickson
Nov 14

Congressman Matt Gaetz of Florida is a brilliant pick for Attorney General. Overnight, he resigned his House seat after just getting re-elected. While some think Florida should, logistically, be able to call and hold a special election for Gaetz’s seat prior to January 3, 2025, given Gaetz’s resignation last night as confirmed by Speaker Mike Johnson, most elections lawyers I have spoken to think that might not be possible.

It should be noted that Speaker Johnson is the happiest man on earth today. Gaetz allegedly had been plotting behind the scenes to find someone to challenge Johnson, but that ended last night.

Gaetz has burned every possible bridge in the House of Representatives, and his colleagues want him gone. The House Ethics Committee intended to vote in two days to release its investigation into Gaetz and human trafficking. Only one Republican on the Ethics Committee needed to vote yes, and that would happen. If the Senate holds hearings, that will still come up. Gaetz’s departure last night killed the investigation. That suggests that this nomination is to provide pre-text for Gaetz’s resignation, and the subtext is a congressional finding that Gaetz possibly engaged in sex trafficking of young women.

Senate Republicans have no desire to confirm him. Some of those Senators just got elected to six-year terms and will outlast Donald Trump. Others do not care because they either have four years or are retiring. Gaetz can only lose four.

Susan Collins is a no. I suspect Mitch McConnell is a no. Lisa Murkowski? I doubt she’d support him. Tom Tillis? Really? Bill Cassidy?


Late last night, Senator Mullin suggested he would be a no vote.

Both of Donald Trump’s prior Attorneys General started as MAGA heroes and ended as MAGA villains. Jeff Sessions was ridiculed and laughed out of office after being celebrated as a brilliant pick. Bill Barr was branded a traitor.

Either Matt Gaetz is not confirmed and goes through a Cersei Lannister shaming that destroys his gubernatorial bid in 2026, or he gets a recess appointment into the office where he becomes the fall guy for Trump.

So Gaetz will either have to be highly successful in his position, or he will, like Icarus, crash after getting too close to the sun.

In the meantime, Donald Trump must show the American public that he is competent. Suppose Gaetz, Noem, Tulsi Gabbard, etc. prove inept. In that case, the GOP will be destroyed in 2026, and MAGA will have to rethink itself with Vance in 2028 to survive the wrath of voters willing to throw out parties in Washington that fail to deliver continually.

Donald Trump must get three things right — the border, crime, and the economy.

On the border, he has pleased no one, including his MAGA base, with Kristi Noem, whose incompetent leadership in South Dakota saw her fight for closures during COVID and fight for trans-rights due to her donors until Republicans overwhelmingly opposed both, and she pivoted to take credit for the GOP’s positions. Noem caved to the NCAA on trans issues.

On crime, Gaetz can perhaps purge the bureaucracy of those opposed to Trump, but he practiced law for 25 months before taking his seat in Congress. Ever since, he has been mired in scandal. But his pick has, overnight, improved the morale of the House GOP with his departure.

Let Donald Trump have his cabinet. In two years, let the voters judge the GOP and Trump on his picks.

Either we will have results or a body count as Trump runs over and destroys people like Gaetz.

But the reality is, I suspect, that Trump is rewarding Gaetz for his loyalty while knowing the Senate will never confirm him. That makes Gaetz a brilliant pick. Trump gets to reward his friend while feeding Gaetz to the lions. Good riddance.

Gaetz’s pick not only spares the House Republicans his presence but probably saves the Florida GOP a messy primary for Governor in 2026 because Gaetz will either be in DC or in tatters.

Don’t be surprised if Gaetz’s nomination never actually advances. His resignation ended the congressional investigation into allegations he participated in sex trafficking. Don’t be surprised if that report leaks. But he can say he left to be AG, even if he never gets there. He’ll blame the RINOs and get a TV contract. He gets an exit to escape the investigation and never gets to the Department of Justice.

With that, Trump improved the House GOP conference and helped Byron Donalds’ Florida gubernatorial bid in 2026.

By the way, a friend emailed this last night, though he said he can’t take credit for it:

A lot of people don’t know that Matt Gaetz is a quiet hero in his community. Some years ago, a young girl was crossing at a crosswalk when a drunk driver sped toward her. He would’ve hit her, and probably killed her, except that a man threw himself between the girl and the car. That Good Samaritan was injured, but the girl’s life was saved. That hero? Matt Gaetz.

Google machine turns up nothing on the Good Samaritan story.

I find it tough to believe a guy who thought Augusto Pinochet is who exemplifies an effective leader.

[canefan]

Nov 13, 2024 23:24:34 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

Nov 13, 2024 18:34:47 GMT -5 Walter said:

At least Trump answered my Q earlier today about why he would bother with recess appointments when the GOP has the majority...
He may HAVE to do it with a recess appt.
Should be fun to see how much institutional backbone the GOP rank and file actually have. I tend to agree with CWG...A GOP senator's kids should be afraid...

Well, we won't have Biden to fondle little girls on live TV any more.

Or try to eat babies.

[canefan]

Nov 14, 2024 11:43:27 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

Here's something to think about...Assuming Trump is expecting a difficult confirmation for Gaetz, and let's say Trump is calculating he needs a backup plan to get him through, so he's looking at Recess Appointment(s). Imagine if he even thinking, we should have a backup plan for the backup plan, just in case...Gaetz has already resigned and some RINOs may be thinking this is a chance to deny Gaetz confirmation, and possibly give the middle finger to Trump. Well, as Rubio has been nominated for Secretary of State, once he's confirmed, should things go south for Gaetz's confirmation, DeSantis could make him a Senator...Boom!

Some rumors going around that DeSantis will appoint Donalds to replace Marco. I'd be all in on that one.

[AlaCowboy]

Nov 14, 2024 12:23:01 GMT -5 canefan said:

Nov 13, 2024 23:24:34 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

Well, we won't have Biden to fondle little girls on live TV any more.

Or try to eat babies.

Even the Haitians in Ohio didn't try that!