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Post by oujour76 on Nov 16, 2024 18:14:45 GMT -5
Relying on recess appointments is a bad idea. Hell has officially frozen over….we agree on something.  He should rely on regular order advise and consent for most of them. If too many senators up for re election in 26 feel uncomfortable voting for say a Kennedy or Gaetz then leadership of both houses should give them a pass by voluntarily going into a recess and go the recess appointment route with them. The president should not in any way force a recess if he can do it. He (Trump) may not get every appointment he wants. That’s the way it goes sometimes. |
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Post by nu5ncbigred on Nov 16, 2024 18:23:56 GMT -5
He should rely on regular order advise and consent for most of them. If too many senators up for re election in 26 feel uncomfortable voting for say a Kennedy or Gaetz then leadership of both houses should give them a pass by voluntarily going into a recess and go the recess appointment route with them. The president should not in any way force a recess if he can do it. He (Trump) may not get every appointment he wants. That’s the way it goes sometimes. That’s true. Bottom line is it wouldn’t bother me if Gaetz wasn’t confirmed. He can get another non confirmation post in the administration and Trump can pick another who the present DOJ would fear greatly but w/o baggage. I think Ted Cruz would be a great choice if Gaetz can’t get it. Trump kept a promise by nominating Kennedy. If he can’t get confirmed, Dr. Ben Carson would be a great next choice. |
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 16, 2024 18:57:10 GMT -5
He (Trump) may not get every appointment he wants. That’s the way it goes sometimes. That’s true. Bottom line is it wouldn’t bother me if Gaetz wasn’t confirmed. He can get another non confirmation post in the administration and Trump can pick another who the present DOJ would fear greatly but w/o baggage. I think Ted Cruz would be a great choice if Gaetz can’t get it. Trump kept a promise by nominating Kennedy. If he can’t get confirmed, Dr. Ben Carson would be a great next choice. TBH, am surprised Carson hasn’t been considered. Maybe he doesn’t want to be? As for Gaetz, I don’t think he gets confirmed. Not sure who would be second choice, but I doubt Cruz would give up his Senate seat. Gonna be an interesting process moving forward, that’s for sure. |
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Post by nu5ncbigred on Nov 16, 2024 20:25:07 GMT -5
That’s true. Bottom line is it wouldn’t bother me if Gaetz wasn’t confirmed. He can get another non confirmation post in the administration and Trump can pick another who the present DOJ would fear greatly but w/o baggage. I think Ted Cruz would be a great choice if Gaetz can’t get it. Trump kept a promise by nominating Kennedy. If he can’t get confirmed, Dr. Ben Carson would be a great next choice. TBH, am surprised Carson hasn’t been considered. Maybe he doesn’t want to be? As for Gaetz, I don’t think he gets confirmed. Not sure who would be second choice, but I doubt Cruz would give up his Senate seat. Gonna be an interesting process moving forward, that’s for sure. I believe Carson was considered for the spot Kennedy got the nomination for. There are other health related positions still available he could get appointed to. There are a number of aggressive GOP State AG’s. Recent and current who could be considered. The one from Texas would be good. Same with the current one from Missouri. |
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Post by Walter on Nov 17, 2024 10:04:53 GMT -5
Relying on recess appointments is a bad idea. Hell has officially frozen over….we agree on something. He should rely on regular order advise and consent for most of them. If too many senators up for re election in 26 feel uncomfortable voting for say a Kennedy or Gaetz then leadership of both houses should give them a pass by voluntarily going into a recess and go the recess appointment route with them. The president should not in any way force a recess if he can do it. Why should Congress give a pass to Trump on any nominee? They should either stand or fall on a Senate vote. That is how they did it in 1776 America. Why shouldn't Trump follow the FF's laws? |
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Post by nu5ncbigred on Nov 17, 2024 10:21:04 GMT -5
He should rely on regular order advise and consent for most of them. If too many senators up for re election in 26 feel uncomfortable voting for say a Kennedy or Gaetz then leadership of both houses should give them a pass by voluntarily going into a recess and go the recess appointment route with them. The president should not in any way force a recess if he can do it. Why should Congress give a pass to Trump on any nominee? They should either stand or fall on a Senate vote. That is how they did it in 1776 America. Why shouldn't Trump follow the FF's laws? He’s a new president with a mandate to lead and the senate majority is of the same party. The tradition since the founding is for congress to show some deference to the president in getting the team around him that he wants. This will show us who the senate RINO’s are from the beginning.? |
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Post by Walter on Nov 17, 2024 10:28:17 GMT -5
Why should Congress give a pass to Trump on any nominee? They should either stand or fall on a Senate vote. That is how they did it in 1776 America. Why shouldn't Trump follow the FF's laws? He’s a new president with a mandate to lead and the senate majority is of the same party. The tradition since the founding is for congress to show some deference to the president in getting the team around him that he wants. This will show us who the senate RINO’s are from the beginning.? If what you say is true, it will be reflected in the vote. A Senator should not just be a rubber stamp. This isn't Russia or China. |
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Post by kaz on Nov 17, 2024 12:13:28 GMT -5
He should rely on regular order advise and consent for most of them. If too many senators up for re election in 26 feel uncomfortable voting for say a Kennedy or Gaetz then leadership of both houses should give them a pass by voluntarily going into a recess and go the recess appointment route with them. The president should not in any way force a recess if he can do it. Why should Congress give a pass to Trump on any nominee? They should either stand or fall on a Senate vote. That is how they did it in 1776 America. Why shouldn't Trump follow the FF's laws? The first Chief Justice of the USSC was a recess appointment by George Washington. |
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Post by Walter on Nov 17, 2024 12:36:58 GMT -5
Why should Congress give a pass to Trump on any nominee? They should either stand or fall on a Senate vote. That is how they did it in 1776 America. Why shouldn't Trump follow the FF's laws? The first Chief Justice of the USSC was a recess appointment by George Washington. From Wiki: "Washington officially nominated Jay on September 24, 1789, the same day he signed the Judiciary Act of 1789 (which created the position of Chief Justice) into law.[72] Jay was unanimously confirmed by the US Senate on September 26, 1789" You were saying? |
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Post by kaz on Nov 17, 2024 14:13:19 GMT -5
The first Chief Justice of the USSC was a recess appointment by George Washington. From Wiki: "Washington officially nominated Jay on September 24, 1789, the same day he signed the Judiciary Act of 1789 (which created the position of Chief Justice) into law.[72] Jay was unanimously confirmed by the US Senate on September 26, 1789" You were saying? I was wrong. He was the second chief justice. Now, what were you saying about the founding fathers and recess appointments? |
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Post by nu5ncbigred on Nov 17, 2024 15:11:29 GMT -5
From Wiki: "Washington officially nominated Jay on September 24, 1789, the same day he signed the Judiciary Act of 1789 (which created the position of Chief Justice) into law.[72] Jay was unanimously confirmed by the US Senate on September 26, 1789" You were saying? I was wrong. He was the second chief justice. Now, what were you saying about the founding fathers and recess appointments? That it was they who initiated the process there? |
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Post by Panama pfRedd on Nov 17, 2024 17:01:42 GMT -5
He’s a new president with a mandate to lead and the senate majority is of the same party. The tradition since the founding is for congress to show some deference to the president in getting the team around him that he wants. This will show us who the senate RINO’s are from the beginning.? If what you say is true, it will be reflected in the vote. A Senator should not just be a rubber stamp. This isn't Russia or China. ^^^^^ Notice how the toxic troll conveniently left out the democRat party from his list of rubber stampers who always move and rubber stamp as a herd in unison? |
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Post by Walter on Nov 17, 2024 19:33:31 GMT -5
From Wiki: "Washington officially nominated Jay on September 24, 1789, the same day he signed the Judiciary Act of 1789 (which created the position of Chief Justice) into law.[72] Jay was unanimously confirmed by the US Senate on September 26, 1789" You were saying? I was wrong. He was the second chief justice. Now, what were you saying about the founding fathers and recess appointments? I was saying that the concept of a recess appointment existed in those days because travel was difficult and recesses weren't for days or weeks but months. Washington appointed Rutledge in August as an emergency fill-in because the Senate had recessed...for 5 months. Rutledge was promptly considered and rejected as soon as The Senate reconvened in December. So as I said, I get the idea of a recess appointment, but The Senate did not recess in order to dodge their responsibility back then as this current group of spineless Trump toadies are suggesting. |
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Post by nu5ncbigred on Nov 17, 2024 20:03:14 GMT -5
Most appointees will go through the normal senate advise and consent process. A recess is a last act not a first one. A recess appointment can only stay until the end of the then current congress. Then they seek confirmation or leave office. No one can be recess appointed twice in a row.
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Post by Walter on Nov 17, 2024 20:08:20 GMT -5
Most appointees will go through the normal senate advise and consent process. A recess is a last act not a first one. A recess appointment can only stay until the end of the then current congress. Then they seek confirmation or leave office. No one can be recess appointed twice in a row. There is no reason the Senate should dodge their responsibility. That they even talk about it demonstrates their spinelessness. If they want to be a rubber stamp, they should move to Russia and run for a seat in the Duma. Putin will welcome their presence and maybe cut them in on a piece of the action for their loyalty. |
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