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Post by dilligaf on Nov 20, 2024 1:02:25 GMT -5
What does he say that is anti-Muslim, Yip-yip?
Make it quotes direct from Trump's mouth that are not taken out of context. Good luck with that.
Nah…I’ve done stuff like that before and it gets ignored. I’ve asked you many times for evidence of your claims and you bail. You can Google “Trump anti-Muslim quotes” and find a bunch listed. Thanks for admitting you have nothing that is not attributable to an "unnamed source" or an "informant who wishes to remain anonymous." Those words allow you to lie and maintain plausible deniability.
Street gossip and snippets taken out of context are not evidence.
Bring me something REAL, Yip-yip.
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Post by trnyerheadncough on Nov 20, 2024 7:46:28 GMT -5
Nah…I’ve done stuff like that before and it gets ignored. I’ve asked you many times for evidence of your claims and you bail. You can Google “Trump anti-Muslim quotes” and find a bunch listed. Thanks for admitting you have nothing that is not attributable to an "unnamed source" or an "informant who wishes to remain anonymous." Those words allow you to lie and maintain plausible deniability.
Street gossip and snippets taken out of context are not evidence.
Bring me something REAL, Yip-yip.Me refusing to enlighten you isn’t admitting anything. I have provided links and evidence in past discussions and watched you flail around with insults, not actually read the evidence, provide no evidence of your claims, and bail from a conversation. I’m no longer going to bother when your engagement in discussion that is that far in bad faith. They’re direct quotes from Trump. You can read them. Some are on friggin’ YouTube videos.
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Post by Walter on Nov 20, 2024 8:03:23 GMT -5
No you don't. You announce your hunger for revenge every chance you get. It never stops around here with you. Quit lying. Whatever you say atheist. Your reality is truly warped as is your ideology I am not the one preaching revenge on a daily basis. That would be you...all day, every day. It comes so naturally to you that you do not even know you are doing it. Example: Here's you. "As Newscum does vs Trump, red local governments here will do to him." Revenge. All. Day. Every. Day.
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Post by arkon on Nov 20, 2024 8:13:05 GMT -5
Hypocrites' dogmatic narrow-mindedness helped put a fake Christian crooked scumbag in the White House. Way to go, buttheads. Yeah. His name is BITEM. We true Christian patriots ran his and his devil daughter's asses OUT.I stand by what I said. It's both true and accurate.
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Post by mscott59 on Nov 20, 2024 10:55:43 GMT -5
stop. trump was not god's candidate. neither was harris. as for preserving religious liberty, the candidate who got elected certainly seemed to have his problem with that kind of freedom when it came to those of muslim faith in the u.s. and I say that as a christian. freedom of religion is just that; freedom of religion. or are you saying that only us christians deserve freedom? it's still absolutely fascinating to me that someone whose moral fiber imho is so anti-christian can be so vocally supported by people of faith who choose to look past trump's history, which goes counter to almost every facet of christianity I've known in my lifetime. you only had two choices this year, and by the results prove that there were many voters who chose trump. but does a savior really have the military clear a street of peaceful protestors so he can parade across it for a photo op in front of a church where he defiantly holds a bible upside down??? or sell 'god bless the usa' bibles on his website for $60?? One, "The Interior Department's inspector general released a report in June 2021 that concludes that the clearing of Lafayette Square of protesters on June 1, 2020, had been previously planned by the U.S. Park Police before President Trump made his public statement at a nearby church." the plan to clear the square was there, but the decision to put it into action didn't come until after meeting w/attorney general barr at 2 pm that afternoon. after that meeting, the secret service informed the park police commander that trump planned to walk across the square to st john's church after the protestors had been removed from the area. The ops commander saw Barr coming out of the White House, according to the report. He went over to Barr and told him the area was unsafe. Barr responded by asking why people were still on H Street outside the White House and that he thought it would be cleared by now.
"The USPP operations commander said the Attorney General asked him, 'Are these people still going to be here when POTUS [President of the United States] comes out?' The USPP operations commander told us he had not known until then that the President would be coming out of the White House and into Lafayette Park.
"He said he replied to the Attorney General, 'Are you freaking kidding me?' and then hung his head and walked away."
the plan to clear the area doesn't mean when it started wasn't designed by trump so he could simply walk across the street. plus, the park police sure did treat those protestors differently than those on 1/6/21
Two, why do you say he opposes freedom of religion for Muslims? Muslims in Detroit endorsed him in this election. do you not recall trump's 1st week in office? when he immediately issued a ban on all immigrants from half a dozen muslim countries? it immediately got challenged by multiple groups and held up by lower federal courts based on how poorly the order was originally written. dearborn is the detroit suburb with the heaviest muslim population per capita... the numbers I saw there were 43%-36% in favor of trump. that was a huge jump from the previous 2 elections. Finally, what difference does it make how you hold a book unless you are reading from it? let's just say I don't think anyone making a 'christian crusade' to cross a street for a photo op w/members of his administration along side (wow, how lucky was that timing that so many happened to be at the white house! lol) would not pay attention to how he/she is holding a bible. I also don't think someone who says the bible is his favorite book would then pass on sharing a favorite verse or two, like he did a few weeks prior to the election.
you would think 'an eye for an eye' from the old testament would at least come to mind... that's what he claimed his favorite verse was in '16. you know, the verse that jesus turns around in the book of matthew (I'm paraphrasing here, but something like if an evil person slaps your right cheek, turn and offer the other).
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Post by nu5ncbigred on Nov 20, 2024 13:24:04 GMT -5
Yeah. His name is BITEM. We true Christian patriots ran his and his devil daughter's asses OUT. I stand by what I said. It's both true and accurate. There is nothing true or accurate about anything you typed here.
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Post by canefan on Nov 20, 2024 13:45:05 GMT -5
One, "The Interior Department's inspector general released a report in June 2021 that concludes that the clearing of Lafayette Square of protesters on June 1, 2020, had been previously planned by the U.S. Park Police before President Trump made his public statement at a nearby church." the plan to clear the square was there, but the decision to put it into action didn't come until after meeting w/attorney general barr at 2 pm that afternoon. after that meeting, the secret service informed the park police commander that trump planned to walk across the square to st john's church after the protestors had been removed from the area. The ops commander saw Barr coming out of the White House, according to the report. He went over to Barr and told him the area was unsafe. Barr responded by asking why people were still on H Street outside the White House and that he thought it would be cleared by now.
"The USPP operations commander said the Attorney General asked him, 'Are these people still going to be here when POTUS [President of the United States] comes out?' The USPP operations commander told us he had not known until then that the President would be coming out of the White House and into Lafayette Park.
"He said he replied to the Attorney General, 'Are you freaking kidding me?' and then hung his head and walked away."
the plan to clear the area doesn't mean when it started wasn't designed by trump so he could simply walk across the street. plus, the park police sure did treat those protestors differently than those on 1/6/21 link Police did not clear D.C.'s Lafayette Square of protesters so Trump could hold a photo op, new report says But the report did find that Attorney General Barr urged officials to speed up the process once Trump had decided to walk through the area. WASHINGTON — When federal police officers violently cleared protesters from the city's Lafayette Square in June 2020, they did it so a contractor could install fencing — not to let President Donald Trump hold a photo opportunity at a nearby church, an investigation by the Interior Department's inspector general has found.
That finding, published Wednesday, is likely to surprise many critics of Trump, who have long asserted that the president or his attorney general ordered the operation to pave the way for an act of political theater. That is also the central allegation of a federal lawsuit by Black Lives Matter against the Justice Department.
The report found no evidence of that, but did find that Attorney General William Barr urged officials to speed up the clearing process once Trump had decided to walk through the area that evening.
The inspector general, Mark Greenblatt, identified problems with the clearing operation, including the likelihood that many protesters did not hear police warnings to disperse before the police moved in. And he found that the firing of pepper balls by Bureau of Prisons officers was "inconsistent with the guidance" by the incident commander. Investigators couldn't determine why the Bureau of Prisons officers were there, but they arrived late and missed the operational briefing, the report says.
The report adds that the law enforcement agencies at the scene did not coordinate well, and that the U.S. Secret Service began advancing on protesters before the Park Police had a chance to warn them to disperse.
The report found that Washington, D.C., police, one of several law enforcement agencies on the scene, fired tear gas at protesters, and that the use of gas was a surprise to the Park Police, which was leading the operation.
But Greenblatt found that the Park Police had the authority to clear the park, and decided to do so — in consultation with Barr — hours before anyone knew Trump planned to make an appearance.
“We found that the Park Police made the decision to clear the park of protesters in order to install an anti-scale fencing to protect the park and U.S. Park Police officers during those protests,” Greenblatt told NBC News. “We did not find evidence that the Park Police officials made that decision in order to permit the president of the United States to visit the park, or for a photo op at the St. John's Church, across the street.”
In a letter accompanying the report's release, Greenblatt said, "The evidence established that relevant (Park Police) officials had made those decisions and had begun implementing the operational plan several hours before they knew of a potential presidential visit to the park, which occurred later that day."
Greenblatt also found that Barr's physical presence in the park had no impact on the decision to clear the park. Widely circulated video shows Barr entering Lafayette Square after 6 p.m. with his security detail and other White House staff members.
However, according to the IG report, the Park Police operations commander told investigators Barr asked him why the crowd was still on H Street and said he thought they would be gone by that point. "Are these people still going to be here when POTUS comes out?" Barr is quoted as saying, using an acronym for President of the United States.
The commander said he not known until then that Trump would be coming out of the White House and into Lafayette Square.
He said he replied to the attorney general, "Are you freaking kidding me?"
The IG investigation took no position on whether the Park Police made a good decision by deciding to clear the park — only that the decision was lawful and consistent with policy.
The report says protests on May 30 and 31 "were mostly peaceful during the day," but that "acts of violence increased in the late afternoon and evenings," and that "officers reported that some protesters threw projectiles, such as bricks, rocks, caustic liquids, frozen water bottles, glass bottles, lit flares, rental scooters, and fireworks, at law enforcement officials."
A total of 49 Park Police officers were injured during the protests from May 29 to May 31, including one who underwent surgery, the report says.
Historic statues in Lafayette Square, were vandalized with graffiti, and on May 31, the park's comfort station was set on fire, the report says. A fire was also set in the basement at St. John's Church on May 31, and nearby stores and businesses were looted, the report adds. On May 31, Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser ordered an 11 p .m. curfew, finding that "in the downtown area of the District of Colombia, numerous businesses and government buildings were vandalized, burned, or looted. Over the past nights, there has been a glorification of violence, particularly in the later hours of the night. ... The health, safety, and well-being of persons within the District of Colombia are threatened and endangered by the existence of these violent actions."
But the Park Police commander and the acting chief of police told investigators that the curfew was ineffective in stopping the unrest in Lafayette Square, the report says.
MSNBC correspondent Garrett Haake — who was on the scene as police began to clear the park — reported that the protests were largely peaceful until police moved in. "It was by far the most peaceful day of protest that we've had in D.C. since Friday night," Haake reported.
"We had mounted federal police coming down H Street from east to west, clearing people out of the street. In front of them, they were using flash bangs, tear gas," Haake added. "All while I was listening to the president of the United States speak about law and order, I was watching people fall down as they ran, I was watching people get pushed aside by police forces."
Two, why do you say he opposes freedom of religion for Muslims? Muslims in Detroit endorsed him in this election. do you not recall trump's 1st week in office? when he immediately issued a ban on all immigrants from half a dozen muslim countries? it immediately got challenged by multiple groups and held up by lower federal courts based on how poorly the order was originally written. dearborn is the detroit suburb with the heaviest muslim population per capita... the numbers I saw there were 43%-36% in favor of trump. that was a huge jump from the previous 2 elections. As I recall all of those countries also happened to be on the Terror Watch List. And the ban was temporary, 90 to 120 days, in order for the new administration to assess the situation. Trump had commented previously during the campaign on the mass shooting and an attempted bombing of the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, California, in December of 2016. If he went too far, so be it. I'd rather have that than Biden opening the door and inviting terrorist in uncontested. I'm assuming Muslims here must feel similar since they actually endorsed his candidacy this time. Finally, what difference does it make how you hold a book unless you are reading from it? let's just say I don't think anyone making a 'christian crusade' to cross a street for a photo op w/members of his administration along side (wow, how lucky was that timing that so many happened to be at the white house! lol) would not pay attention to how he/she is holding a bible. I also don't think someone who says the bible is his favorite book would then pass on sharing a favorite verse or two, like he did a few weeks prior to the election.
you would think 'an eye for an eye' from the old testament would at least come to mind... that's what he claimed his favorite verse was in '16. you know, the verse that jesus turns around in the book of matthew (I'm paraphrasing here, but something like if an evil person slaps your right cheek, turn and offer the other).
Did you notice he is holding the top of the book as he carries it with him and then raises it up, which is what turns it upside down? Again, what difference does that make?
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Post by nu5ncbigred on Nov 20, 2024 22:10:01 GMT -5
Whatever you say atheist. Your reality is truly warped as is your ideology I am not the one preaching revenge on a daily basis. That would be you...all day, every day. It comes so naturally to you that you do not even know you are doing it. Example: Here's you. "As Newscum does vs Trump, red local governments here will do to him." Revenge. All. Day. Every. Day. Success will be our revenge. It’s that simple. As to here, there.is nothing wrong with being the resistance to the resistance. In the red rural parts of California we are openly pro Trump. We voted to recall Newscum and voted for Dahle against him. It is only natural that we would support Trump every time democrats oppose him.
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Post by arkon on Nov 21, 2024 9:01:58 GMT -5
I stand by what I said. It's both true and accurate. There is nothing true or accurate about anything you typed here. You ARE hypocrites. You ARE narrow-minded. Donald Trump is in NO way a Christian. He IS a scumbag. All easily provable.
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Post by nu5ncbigred on Nov 21, 2024 12:40:17 GMT -5
There is nothing true or accurate about anything you typed here. You ARE hypocrites. You ARE narrow-minded. Donald Trump is in NO way a Christian. He IS a scumbag. All easily provable. You are wrong about everything here
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Post by Panama pfRedd on Nov 21, 2024 13:13:19 GMT -5
You ARE hypocrites. You ARE narrow-minded. Donald Trump is in NO way a Christian. He IS a scumbag. All easily provable. You are wrong about everything here And the king of hypocrisy and irony. The biggest fake this board has ever known.
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Post by nu5ncbigred on Nov 22, 2024 9:31:43 GMT -5
You are wrong about everything here And the king of hypocrisy and irony. The biggest fake this board has ever known. They are frothing at the mouth in their bitter anger at those of us who used our votes to impose Trump upon them again
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