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Post by mscott59 on Jan 8, 2015 16:53:06 GMT -5
it's a short list.
alabama w/bear bryant and nick saban. oklahoma w/bud wilkinson and barry switzer and, if osu wins monday night, woody hayes and urban meyer.
that is the rarest of rare coaching air there.
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Post by bgovolfan on Jan 8, 2015 17:06:39 GMT -5
it's a short list. alabama w/bear bryant and nick saban. oklahoma w/bud wilkinson and barry switzer and, if osu wins monday night, woody hayes and urban meyer. that is the rarest of rare coaching air there. Yes it is..... Bg(that's a very short list...I'm jealous)VolFan
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Post by cbisbig on Jan 8, 2015 19:06:55 GMT -5
Wallace Wade also won multiple championships while at BAMA
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Post by trnyerheadncough on Jan 9, 2015 9:27:53 GMT -5
it's a short list. alabama w/bear bryant and nick saban. oklahoma w/bud wilkinson and barry switzer and, if osu wins monday night, woody hayes and urban meyer. that is the rarest of rare coaching air there. I'm not understanding. Multiple coaches winning multiple national titles? So the qualification is that a school has 2 or more national championships, and the coach of that school has 2 or more national championships? If so, wouldn't Nebraska be on the list with DeVaney and Osborne? USC with McKay and Carroll? Notre Dame with Rockne, Leahy, and Parseghian? I very well might be missing others. At first I thought you might've meant that the coach won championships at different schools, but Bear didn't win a championship anywhere except Alabama and Wilkinson didn't coach anywhere except Oklahoma, not to mention Woody Hayes only coached significantly at Ohio State.
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Post by bamorin on Jan 9, 2015 9:42:42 GMT -5
it's a short list. alabama w/bear bryant and nick saban. oklahoma w/bud wilkinson and barry switzer and, if osu wins monday night, woody hayes and urban meyer. that is the rarest of rare coaching air there. I'm not understanding. Multiple coaches winning multiple national titles? So the qualification is that a school has 2 or more national championships, and the coach of that school has 2 or more national championships? If so, wouldn't Nebraska be on the list with DeVaney and Osborne? USC with McKay and Carroll? Notre Dame with Rockne, Leahy, and Parseghian? I very well might be missing others. At first I thought you might've meant that the coach won championships at different schools, but Bear didn't win a championship anywhere except Alabama and Wilkinson didn't coach anywhere except Oklahoma, not to mention Woody Hayes only coached significantly at Ohio State. Might want to revisit that some. Won significant games, and or titles only at OSU. But his coaching at Miami brought you one of the names you mention. There were others that came from his coaching at Miami.
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Post by trnyerheadncough on Jan 9, 2015 9:47:46 GMT -5
I'm not understanding. Multiple coaches winning multiple national titles? So the qualification is that a school has 2 or more national championships, and the coach of that school has 2 or more national championships? If so, wouldn't Nebraska be on the list with DeVaney and Osborne? USC with McKay and Carroll? Notre Dame with Rockne, Leahy, and Parseghian? I very well might be missing others. At first I thought you might've meant that the coach won championships at different schools, but Bear didn't win a championship anywhere except Alabama and Wilkinson didn't coach anywhere except Oklahoma, not to mention Woody Hayes only coached significantly at Ohio State. Might want to revisit that some. Won significant games, and or titles only at OSU. But his coaching at Miami brought you one of the names you mention. There were others that came from his coaching at Miami. I stand by my comment. He coached at Miami for 2 years. He coached at Ohio State for 28 years. As for his success at Miami, yeah, in 1950, he went 9-1 and won the Salad Bowl, but that isn't a national championship. Bear Bryant coached at Kentucky and TAMU, but didn't win nattys there either. Woody Hayes isn't known for his stellar coaching at Miami for the two years he was there. It wasn't a significant coaching stint with regard to the post. That's all I'm saying.
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Post by bamorin on Jan 9, 2015 10:03:01 GMT -5
Might want to revisit that some. Won significant games, and or titles only at OSU. But his coaching at Miami brought you one of the names you mention. There were others that came from his coaching at Miami. I stand by my comment. He coached at Miami for 2 years. He coached at Ohio State for 28 years. As for his success at Miami, yeah, in 1950, he went 9-1 and won the Salad Bowl, but that isn't a national championship. Bear Bryant coached at Kentucky and TAMU, but didn't win nattys there either. Woody Hayes isn't known for his stellar coaching at Miami for the two years he was there. It wasn't a significant coaching stint with regard to the post. That's all I'm saying. I guess we have a different deffinition of the word coaching then. W/L record is one thing, but coaching applies to the assistants also.
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Post by mscott59 on Jan 9, 2015 10:08:53 GMT -5
it's a short list. alabama w/bear bryant and nick saban. oklahoma w/bud wilkinson and barry switzer and, if osu wins monday night, woody hayes and urban meyer. that is the rarest of rare coaching air there. I'm not understanding. Multiple coaches winning multiple national titles? So the qualification is that a school has 2 or more national championships, and the coach of that school has 2 or more national championships? If so, wouldn't Nebraska be on the list with DeVaney and Osborne? USC with McKay and Carroll? Notre Dame with Rockne, Leahy, and Parseghian? I very well might be missing others. At first I thought you might've meant that the coach won championships at different schools, but Bear didn't win a championship anywhere except Alabama and Wilkinson didn't coach anywhere except Oklahoma, not to mention Woody Hayes only coached significantly at Ohio State. my bad on leaving out nebraska. i forgot about unl's title w/devaney in '70. usc in '03 is certainly fuzzy, since the ap named them #1 but they didn't win the bcs title. i guess that could be argued, although i did consider that and left usc/carroll out because the bcs by that time had seemed to take over as the defining decider, even though that was controversial (and fwiw i thought usc deserved to be in the bcs title game). along that same philosophy, do you include rockne's teams prior to the 30's when the wire service polls 'seemed' to define themselves as the go-to barometer of top teams? i think he still has the top win pct of any coach in that role for 10+ years. leahy and ara are legit (even though '66 i dispute... at that time the irish didn't play in bowls). my mistake there. so that would make the list alabama, oklahoma, nebraska, notre dame, usc*, and if osu wins monday night, ohio state. that's a blue chip list.
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Post by cbisbig on Jan 9, 2015 10:25:56 GMT -5
Bryant won the 1950 NC at Uk
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Post by mscott59 on Jan 9, 2015 10:47:11 GMT -5
Bryant won the 1950 NC at Uk uh, no. uk finished the regular season #7 (ap). they did beat #1 ou in the orange bowl though.
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Post by trnyerheadncough on Jan 9, 2015 10:56:42 GMT -5
I'm not understanding. Multiple coaches winning multiple national titles? So the qualification is that a school has 2 or more national championships, and the coach of that school has 2 or more national championships? If so, wouldn't Nebraska be on the list with DeVaney and Osborne? USC with McKay and Carroll? Notre Dame with Rockne, Leahy, and Parseghian? I very well might be missing others. At first I thought you might've meant that the coach won championships at different schools, but Bear didn't win a championship anywhere except Alabama and Wilkinson didn't coach anywhere except Oklahoma, not to mention Woody Hayes only coached significantly at Ohio State. my bad on leaving out nebraska. i forgot about unl's title w/devaney in '70. usc in '03 is certainly fuzzy, since the ap named them #1 but they didn't win the bcs title. i guess that could be argued, although i did consider that and left usc/carroll out because the bcs by that time had seemed to take over as the defining decider, even though that was controversial (and fwiw i thought usc deserved to be in the bcs title game). along that same philosophy, do you include rockne's teams prior to the 30's when the wire service polls 'seemed' to define themselves as the go-to barometer of top teams? i think he still has the top win pct of any coach in that role for 10+ years. leahy and ara are legit (even though '66 i dispute... at that time the irish didn't play in bowls). my mistake there. so that would make the list alabama, oklahoma, nebraska, notre dame, usc*, and if osu wins monday night, ohio state. that's a blue chip list. Definitely a blue chip list...it just seemed incomplete when you first said it, so I asked to make sure I was reading it right. When Jimbo wins his second one, FSU will be on that list too.
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Post by oujour76 on Jan 9, 2015 11:54:29 GMT -5
Bryant won the 1950 NC at Uk Not likely. Even if the vote were taken bowl season, Tennessee would have been in front of Kentucky. But, the vote wasn't taken after the bowls, so fair or not the NC that year is still Oklahoma. Clearly, OU was "disinterested" in playing in the Sugar Bowl that year.
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Post by oujour76 on Jan 9, 2015 11:59:02 GMT -5
Bryant won the 1950 NC at Uk uh, no. uk finished the regular season #7 (ap). they did beat #1 ou in the orange bowl though. I think he's saying that national titles are kind of suspect for teams that lose their bowl game......like Alabama in 1964 and 1973.
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Post by oujour76 on Jan 9, 2015 12:01:29 GMT -5
Bryant won the 1950 NC at Uk uh, no. uk finished the regular season #7 (ap). they did beat #1 ou in the orange bowl though. Correction. They beat a "disinterested" OU in the Sugar Bowl.
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