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Post by trnyerheadncough on Nov 14, 2016 14:57:40 GMT -5
If Ohio St wins out I for the life of me can't see how you don't consider Ohio St one of the 4 best teams in the country. This will be the 1st year the committee will have to put up or shut up if Ohio St wins out. I know the conference championship argument. And I'd he a hypocrite now if I changed my position on it and I'm not a SEC fan. Then I also can't imagine keeping a team who is clearly one of the best 4 in the nation out of the playoffs cause they lost 1 game on the road vs now a top 10 team on a blocked FG return for TD OSU got in the 2014 play off not because they won the B10CCG, but because of how they won it. Had OSU beaten Wisconsin 13-10 in triple OT, not a chance in hell they would have played. The committee's choice should be the best 4 teams in the country play. Do you want a national champion from the top 4? Or is this a game between conference champs only? this could be a year when 1 conference gets two teams, and the B10 stands as best chance, of that chance. If that happens, the playeoffs will go to an 8 team pretty freakin quick. I disagree that the Big 10 has the best chance to get 2. The ACC has a better chance as of right now to get Clemson and Louisville into the playoff than Ohio State/Michigan and whoever....
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 14, 2016 15:11:29 GMT -5
Well, there is a little bit of difference. Oklahoma didn't play a CCG, but they won their conference with a round robin schedule. IOW, they played every other team. That's a lot different that a team that ends up second in its division, does not play all other teams and does not play in a CCG. I understand all of that. Was simply addressing the idea that winning a CCG was all that critical to selection. It has both been, and been not in the 2 years. But do have Oklahoma finish out. The win vs Oklahoma will look prettier to the committee than the loss to sPITT Hope OU wins out and we end up #5. Cuz, we ain't a playoff caliber team.
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Post by bamorin on Nov 14, 2016 15:50:28 GMT -5
I understand all of that. Was simply addressing the idea that winning a CCG was all that critical to selection. It has both been, and been not in the 2 years. But do have Oklahoma finish out. The win vs Oklahoma will look prettier to the committee than the loss to sPITT Hope OU wins out and we end up #5. Cuz, we ain't a playoff caliber team.
Hope y'all do too.......beating a team ranked #5 early, then beating #4 (coaches) meatchicken, even if we have to stay home the first week of December will probably do it.
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 14, 2016 16:06:23 GMT -5
Hope OU wins out and we end up #5. Cuz, we ain't a playoff caliber team.
Hope y'all do too.......beating a team ranked #5 early, then beating #4 (coaches) meatchicken, even if we have to stay home the first week of December will probably do it. If Penn State and Ohio State both win out, things get real, real interesting. It will make for great TV.
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Post by snap infraction on Nov 14, 2016 16:20:09 GMT -5
I agree with you... Hold on.... I almost passed out saying that.. But last year Ohio ST was one of the best 4 teams. Did they get in? No. The committee has said from day 1 conference champions get priority. Winning your conference is how you get in. The committee will pick from, if Ohio St wins out, SEC Champion Alabama, ACC Champion Clemson, PAC-12 Champion Washington, Big 10 Champion (if that's Penn St, who has a win over Ohio St), and Big 12 Champion Oklahoma (Who has less of a chance than Ohio St.) And Ohio St Should Ohio State win out, they would be ranked higher than whoever the CCG winner is in every poll. So, does the Playoff Committee give precedent to conference winner Penn State (who beat Ohio State)? Probably not. But if Michigan wins out, then loses to Wisconsin in the CG, who would the Committee pick? Conference champ Wisconsin, with a loss to Ohio State?Maybe not. CG loser Michigan? with a win and a loss against Wisky? Hmmm.like someone previously said, it might come down to style points. if psu/wisconsin looks like the iowa/mich state conference title game from last year and ohio state beats michigan convincingly, i think the committee chooses ohio state. if penn state demolishes wisconsin while ohio state played so so against michigan on their back up qb, then i think penn states the invite. the simplest solution would be for michigan to win out. and they have a really good, determined, experienced team.
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Post by bamorin on Nov 14, 2016 16:24:57 GMT -5
the simplest solution would be for michigan to win out. and they have a really good, determined, experienced team. Ba( sticking fingers in his ears..lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala)Morin
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Post by bamorin on Nov 14, 2016 16:36:35 GMT -5
OSU got in the 2014 play off not because they won the B10CCG, but because of how they won it. Had OSU beaten Wisconsin 13-10 in triple OT, not a chance in hell they would have played. The committee's choice should be the best 4 teams in the country play. Do you want a national champion from the top 4? Or is this a game between conference champs only? this could be a year when 1 conference gets two teams, and the B10 stands as best chance, of that chance. If that happens, the playeoffs will go to an 8 team pretty freakin quick. I disagree that the Big 10 has the best chance to get 2. The ACC has a better chance as of right now to get Clemson and Louisville into the playoff than Ohio State/Michigan and whoever.... That may be more accurate..........however.........i still got JuJu
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Post by daleko on Nov 14, 2016 17:11:01 GMT -5
this issue has dominated the sports talk shows this am. remember that if um beats osu, that would knock out psu for the ccg (provided the wolverines beat iu, which i think they will). if osu wins, and psu wins out, i think most nitt fans would not be as magnanimous as you are in this post, should psu get picked over for the playoff despite winning the big 10. still games to be played so many more possibilities out there, but i think the committee has a real quandry if osu wins out yet misses the big 10 title game. and in that scenario, if osu gets the playoff nod, the committee is going to get tons and tons of heat. eh. i think you'd be surprised how psu fans would react. most thought we'd win 6-7 games. but if they win 10 games and play in a big time new years bowl, psu fans would be thrilled. it's all about expectations. i'd rather have psu play a good team in a competitive bowl game than have the nation cry who 9 months about how penn state was overrated and didn't belong after losing to alabama by 50. Maybe no NYD Bowl for PSU. Orange Bowl is on 12/30. 10-2 Nitts might fit in well if Tosu beats Meat. And that's one thing they are good at. Unless, though unlikely, TOSU loses in the CCG. Then you get 12/31 or 1/2.
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Post by daleko on Nov 14, 2016 17:15:37 GMT -5
I understand all of that. Was simply addressing the idea that winning a CCG was all that critical to selection. It has both been, and been not in the 2 years. But do have Oklahoma finish out. The win vs Oklahoma will look prettier to the committee than the loss to sPITT Hope OU wins out and we end up #5. Cuz, we ain't a playoff caliber team.
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Post by daleko on Nov 14, 2016 17:17:19 GMT -5
OSU got in the 2014 play off not because they won the B10CCG, but because of how they won it. Had OSU beaten Wisconsin 13-10 in triple OT, not a chance in hell they would have played. The committee's choice should be the best 4 teams in the country play. Do you want a national champion from the top 4? Or is this a game between conference champs only? this could be a year when 1 conference gets two teams, and the B10 stands as best chance, of that chance. If that happens, the playeoffs will go to an 8 team pretty freakin quick. I disagree that the Big 10 has the best chance to get 2. The ACC has a better chance as of right now to get Clemson and Louisville into the playoff than Ohio State/Michigan and whoever.... Agree, if they both win out. Losing early may help Louisville.
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