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Post by ihs82 on Jun 6, 2014 9:40:31 GMT -5
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Post by lz2112 on Jun 6, 2014 10:29:36 GMT -5
Classic NCAA selective enforcement. |
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Post by oujour76 on Jun 6, 2014 11:51:00 GMT -5
Classic NCAA selective enforcement. |
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Post by beuycek on Jun 6, 2014 16:02:09 GMT -5
Classic NCAA selective enforcement. Remember, too that UNC admitted wrong doing (although nothing to the extent that McCants claims) and the NCAA disagreed with their findings and chose not to punish them. |
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Post by oujour76 on Jun 6, 2014 17:16:54 GMT -5
Remember, too that UNC admitted wrong doing (although nothing to the extent that McCants claims) and the NCAA disagreed with their findings and chose not to punish them.
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Post by mscott59 on Jun 8, 2014 20:37:20 GMT -5
Remember, too that UNC admitted wrong doing (although nothing to the extent that McCants claims) and the NCAA disagreed with their findings and chose not to punish them.
1. there is absolutely no doubt about a huge perception problem for the ncaa, if unc is truly getting, in essence, a pass on this, although to be fair, at least what i recall about this is that it was more focused on football players getting academic assistance than the hoops guys. maybe i'm wrong on that. the ncaa makes almost no $$ on cfb anymore. unc being automatically absent from march madness? that better not make a difference. 2. that said, it's kind of unfair to say 'look, unc hoops hasn't been punished and here's proof re mccants.' that news literally just came out days ago. now if the ncaa doesn't follow up on this, or the the unc coaches/administration continue to say they did everything right, then that is an issue. significant one. 3. mccants does carry some fault in this. i know there is huge pressure to follow along when you're told to take cupcake classes in order to stay eligible, but the student still bears some responsibility here. 4. the adults bear more responsibility. 5. saw an article last week about an ou (ohio, not oklahoma) sports professor doing a year long project in europe, studying their athletic system, which is completely separate from the higher university system. america remains the only place where top 'amateur' athletes are expected to go to class and complete minimum college standards, a tradition he says began in the early 20th century when college execs noticed how popular football was with the public, and began building large stadiums in response. you wonder if the business of college hoops/football are too big to change now... it would be a radical shift. but if the systems stay as they are... if playing college sports means you need to be a college student in good standing, then it needs to apply to everyone, all of them time. mark scott tosu 81 |
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Post by oujour76 on Jun 8, 2014 21:51:40 GMT -5
What a joke...Carolina is a big basketball school and 90% of the NCAA's revenues come from the NCAA basketball tournament, so no big surprise that they treated them with kid gloves.
1. there is absolutely no doubt about a huge perception problem for the ncaa, if unc is truly getting, in essence, a pass on this, although to be fair, at least what i recall about this is that it was more focused on football players getting academic assistance than the hoops guys. maybe i'm wrong on that. the ncaa makes almost no $$ on cfb anymore. unc being automatically absent from march madness? that better not make a difference. 2. that said, it's kind of unfair to say 'look, unc hoops hasn't been punished and here's proof re mccants.' that news literally just came out days ago. now if the ncaa doesn't follow up on this, or the the unc coaches/administration continue to say they did everything right, then that is an issue. significant one. 3. mccants does carry some fault in this. i know there is huge pressure to follow along when you're told to take cupcake classes in order to stay eligible, but the student still bears some responsibility here. 4. the adults bear more responsibility. 5. saw an article last week about an ou (ohio, not oklahoma) sports professor doing a year long project in europe, studying their athletic system, which is completely separate from the higher university system. america remains the only place where top 'amateur' athletes are expected to go to class and complete minimum college standards, a tradition he says began in the early 20th century when college execs noticed how popular football was with the public, and began building large stadiums in response. you wonder if the business of college hoops/football are too big to change now... it would be a radical shift. but if the systems stay as they are... if playing college sports means you need to be a college student in good standing, then it needs to apply to everyone, all of them time. mark scott tosu 81 |
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Post by AlaCowboy on Jun 8, 2014 22:44:08 GMT -5
No. Bruce Pearl hosted a recruit who was on an unofficial visit. That would have been a minor violation, but when questioned about it by the NCAA and the UT AD, Pearl lied about it. Pearl also told others that were there to lie, and asked the recruit and his father to lie. Further NCAA investigation found numerous illegal contacts by Pearl and his staff.
The illegal contacts are why UT got put on probation. The lies are why Pearl received a "show cause" penalty. If only Pearl had raped a few kids, you would be defending him.
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Post by beuycek on Jun 9, 2014 6:20:39 GMT -5
No. Bruce Pearl hosted a recruit who was on an unofficial visit. That would have been a minor violation, but when questioned about it by the NCAA and the UT AD, Pearl lied about it. Pearl also told others that were there to lie, and asked the recruit and his father to lie. Further NCAA investigation found numerous illegal contacts by Pearl and his staff.
The illegal contacts are why UT got put on probation. The lies are why Pearl received a "show cause" penalty. If only Pearl had raped a few kids, you would be defending him. That last comment was unnecessary but your overall point is noted. ihs does seem to skim the headlines a little too often with regard to other schools.  |
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Post by mscott59 on Jun 9, 2014 7:38:51 GMT -5
1. there is absolutely no doubt about a huge perception problem for the ncaa, if unc is truly getting, in essence, a pass on this, although to be fair, at least what i recall about this is that it was more focused on football players getting academic assistance than the hoops guys. maybe i'm wrong on that. the ncaa makes almost no $$ on cfb anymore. unc being automatically absent from march madness? that better not make a difference. 2. that said, it's kind of unfair to say 'look, unc hoops hasn't been punished and here's proof re mccants.' that news literally just came out days ago. now if the ncaa doesn't follow up on this, or the the unc coaches/administration continue to say they did everything right, then that is an issue. significant one. 3. mccants does carry some fault in this. i know there is huge pressure to follow along when you're told to take cupcake classes in order to stay eligible, but the student still bears some responsibility here. 4. the adults bear more responsibility. 5. saw an article last week about an ou (ohio, not oklahoma) sports professor doing a year long project in europe, studying their athletic system, which is completely separate from the higher university system. america remains the only place where top 'amateur' athletes are expected to go to class and complete minimum college standards, a tradition he says began in the early 20th century when college execs noticed how popular football was with the public, and began building large stadiums in response. you wonder if the business of college hoops/football are too big to change now... it would be a radical shift. but if the systems stay as they are... if playing college sports means you need to be a college student in good standing, then it needs to apply to everyone, all of them time. mark scott tosu 81 ditto. not a direct correlation, but the o'bannon trial starting this week in federal court could have some earth-shattering consequences to college sports, paving a path for a true minor league/non-academic requirement option for football/basketball (and baseball?), and backing the university system back to a true amateur status. one other interesting tidbit that i've seen here re: osu. there was no extension for the buckeye club deadline on getting season tickets back in the spring, but the tickets the osu alumni association get to sell is a different story. used to be that buckeye club members weren't eligible for the alumni ticket lottery. now that's changed and we are eligible. also, the deadline to get into the lottery has been extended twice. never seen that before either. maybe it's a hiccup and nothing more. just makes me wonder if even as fervent a fan base as osu's may be approaching a point where they can't or won't pay $85, $116 (va tech game) or $156 (um game) per ticket to attend a game. mark scott tosu 81 |
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Post by mscott59 on Jun 9, 2014 7:42:57 GMT -5
No. Bruce Pearl hosted a recruit who was on an unofficial visit. That would have been a minor violation, but when questioned about it by the NCAA and the UT AD, Pearl lied about it. Pearl also told others that were there to lie, and asked the recruit and his father to lie. Further NCAA investigation found numerous illegal contacts by Pearl and his staff.
The illegal contacts are why UT got put on probation. The lies are why Pearl received a "show cause" penalty. If only Pearl had raped a few kids, you would be defending him. That last comment was unnecessary but your overall point is noted. ihs does seem to skim the headlines a little too often with regard to other schools. the other irony re: pearl is that one of the kids involved was aaron craft, who in essence was hated by every fan base outside columbus (speaking in general here) for being loved by coaches, media and buckeye followers for being a 21st century poster child for being as near perfect a student-athlete as you can be. you wonder how things might have worked out if pearl hadn't lied, if craft did end up going to knoxville and playing for ut. mark scott tosu 81 |
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Post by AlaCowboy on Jun 9, 2014 8:08:46 GMT -5
No. Bruce Pearl hosted a recruit who was on an unofficial visit. That would have been a minor violation, but when questioned about it by the NCAA and the UT AD, Pearl lied about it. Pearl also told others that were there to lie, and asked the recruit and his father to lie. Further NCAA investigation found numerous illegal contacts by Pearl and his staff.
The illegal contacts are why UT got put on probation. The lies are why Pearl received a "show cause" penalty. If only Pearl had raped a few kids, you would be defending him. That last comment was unnecessary but your overall point is noted. ihs does seem to skim the headlines a little too often with regard to other schools.
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Post by ihs82 on Jun 9, 2014 8:25:12 GMT -5
No. Bruce Pearl hosted a recruit who was on an unofficial visit. That would have been a minor violation, but when questioned about it by the NCAA and the UT AD, Pearl lied about it. Pearl also told others that were there to lie, and asked the recruit and his father to lie. Further NCAA investigation found numerous illegal contacts by Pearl and his staff.
The illegal contacts are why UT got put on probation. The lies are why Pearl received a "show cause" penalty. If only Pearl had raped a few kids, you would be defending him. That last comment was unnecessary but your overall point is noted. ihs does seem to skim the headlines a little too often with regard to other schools. oh yeah i def knew pearl got in trouble for lying about the bbq ant not necessarily the bbq itself. and i know pearl is himself a rat from his days at iowa. however, at the time when posting this article, it just sounded better to ignore these crucial facts. my bad. |
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Post by ihs82 on Jun 9, 2014 8:27:55 GMT -5
That last comment was unnecessary but your overall point is noted. ihs does seem to skim the headlines a little too often with regard to other schools.
But it was a bit tacky.find one post where i defended sandusky. you claiming i'm defending sandusky is worse than me not being completely about clear about bruce pearls transgressions at tennessee. |
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Post by beuycek on Jun 9, 2014 8:41:19 GMT -5
That last comment was unnecessary but your overall point is noted. ihs does seem to skim the headlines a little too often with regard to other schools.
But it was a bit tacky.Your hyperbole is noted. |
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