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Post by Buckeye Dale on Nov 12, 2014 7:30:20 GMT -5
Should we petition for a name change for this part of the board? From NCAA Stuff to Pity the Paternos?
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Jan 31, 2015 13:07:24 GMT -5
Should we petition for a name change for this part of the board? From NCAA Stuff to Pity the Paternos? 15 subjects/threads per page... first two pages, 24 of 30 started by our boy looking for pity for the Paternos or pointing out some lame BS about the NCAA. After page 3, 33 / 45. Page 4, 43 / 60. Page 5, 55 / 75 Only five posts on page 6, the beginnings, and four of those five... Total is 59 out of 80.
I vote for a name change, and moving those "off" subjects to another area.
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Post by AlaCowboy on Jan 31, 2015 18:42:51 GMT -5
At no time has the litle whiner shown any concern or remorse for the children that PSU administration and coaches allowed to be sexually abused by one of their own.
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Post by snap infraction on Feb 2, 2015 10:42:54 GMT -5
At no time has the litle whiner shown any concern or remorse for the children that PSU administration and coaches allowed to be sexually abused by one of their own. i'm going to show a lil restraint here b/c you're just some anonymous prick so it's not worth getting riled up over anything you say. but don't presume to know how i felt towards what happened towards those victims. you can be an ahole but you don't necessarily have to be a presumptuous ahole. |
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Post by snap infraction on Feb 2, 2015 11:10:41 GMT -5
Should we petition for a name change for this part of the board? From NCAA Stuff to Pity the Paternos? 15 subjects/threads per page... first two pages, 24 of 30 started by our boy looking for pity for the Paternos or pointing out some lame BS about the NCAA. After page 3, 33 / 45. Page 4, 43 / 60. Page 5, 55 / 75 Only five posts on page 6, the beginnings, and four of those five... Total is 59 out of 80.
I vote for a name change, and moving those "off" subjects to another area.
i mean it was very possibly the most controversial ruling in the history of the NCAA. most of the stuff i post relates to legal cases involving the ncaa and their decision. if i wanted to just listen to people who only agreed with me, i would save my opinions for penn state only message boards. no one is forced to respond to what i say...or even read it.... |
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Post by oujour76 on Feb 2, 2015 12:02:08 GMT -5
At no time has the litle whiner shown any concern or remorse for the children that PSU administration and coaches allowed to be sexually abused by one of their own. i'm going to show a lil restraint here b/c you're just some anonymous prick so it's not worth getting riled up over anything you say. but don't presume to know how i felt towards what happened towards those victims. you can be an ahole but you don't necessarily have to be a presumptuous ahole.
On here you have paid lip service to the victims and basically tried to distance Penn State and Joe Paterno from them....."Sandusky is an ex-employee"......"the NCAA overstepped"...."Paterno was an old man"........"Penn State has no connection to Third Mile"......and on and on and on. |
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Post by snap infraction on Feb 2, 2015 12:07:54 GMT -5
i'm going to show a lil restraint here b/c you're just some anonymous prick so it's not worth getting riled up over anything you say. but don't presume to know how i felt towards what happened towards those victims. you can be an ahole but you don't necessarily have to be a presumptuous ahole.
On here you have paid lip service to the victims and basically tried to distance Penn State and Joe Paterno from them....."Sandusky is an ex-employee"......"the NCAA overstepped"...."Paterno was an old man"........"Penn State has no connection to Third Mile"......and on and on and on. b/c i questioned certain aspects of the prevailing narrative, i'm accused of being insincere towards the victims? do you really think that's fair? |
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Post by mscott59 on Feb 2, 2015 12:37:15 GMT -5
On here you have paid lip service to the victims and basically tried to distance Penn State and Joe Paterno from them....."Sandusky is an ex-employee"......"the NCAA overstepped"...."Paterno was an old man"........"Penn State has no connection to Third Mile"......and on and on and on. b/c i questioned certain aspects of the prevailing narrative, i'm accused of being insincere towards the victims? do you really think that's fair? it's not just 'certain aspects'. every post has positioned paterno, psu, the football program, hell even the people who sell programs and popcorn at the games, as victims of the ncaa. it's been very noticeable from the onset your lack of even referencing these kids who sandusky abused. it leaves a vacuum. we certainly know how you feel about freeh, and emmert, et al. any opinion that you care significantly more for what happens to penn state football, paterno's legacy, etc, is understandable. |
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Post by oujour76 on Feb 2, 2015 13:02:42 GMT -5
On here you have paid lip service to the victims and basically tried to distance Penn State and Joe Paterno from them....."Sandusky is an ex-employee"......"the NCAA overstepped"...."Paterno was an old man"........"Penn State has no connection to Third Mile"......and on and on and on. b/c i questioned certain aspects of the prevailing narrative, i'm accused of being insincere towards the victims? do you really think that's fair?
You seem to believe that all of this criminal shit went down with Sandusky while he was inside the football program, yet you don't see how the football program protected him all along the way.
The football program was the public face of Penn State. Joe Paterno was the face of the program. Every TV appearance, bowl win, etc. leads to increased alumni support and donations. Protecting the football program protected the Penn State brand and led to more $$.
Penn State bent over backward to be "humane" to Sandusky...they did all they could do to ensure that it all stayed in house. Yes, it was more Curley, Schultz, Spanier but Paterno and his hands off approach also have responsibility. You don't see that.....you try to excuse Paterno every step of the way....."he was old"....."McQueary wasn't clear enough"......"his was 3rd party knowledge"......"he didn't know about 1998".....and on and on. |
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Feb 2, 2015 13:07:49 GMT -5
i mean it was very possibly the most controversial ruling in the history of the NCAA. most of the stuff i post relates to legal cases involving the ncaa and their decision. if i wanted to just listen to people who only agreed with me, i would save my opinions for penn state only message boards. no one is forced to respond to what i say...or even read it....
So those examples from BWI I referenced in the other thread, you're saying you agree with them then? And you may have noticed, I very rarely respond to what you say on this subject, because I very rarely read it. But by reading the other responses, others obviously share those feelings. Feel the taint? |
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Post by snap infraction on Feb 2, 2015 13:12:51 GMT -5
b/c i questioned certain aspects of the prevailing narrative, i'm accused of being insincere towards the victims? do you really think that's fair? it's not just 'certain aspects'. every post has positioned paterno, psu, the football program, hell even the people who sell programs and popcorn at the games, as victims of the ncaa. it's been very noticeable from the onset your lack of even referencing these kids who sandusky abused. it leaves a vacuum. we certainly know how you feel about freeh, and emmert, et al. any opinion that you care significantly more for what happens to penn state football, paterno's legacy, etc, is understandable. i am allowed to oppose the ncaa's actions and sympathize with the victims at the same time. these aren't mutually exclusive things. this is a sports message boards drilled down to topics that relate to the ncaa, therefore, conversations about the awfulness and the sufferings due to sexual abuse is not very relevant here. there are other channels to express this remorse that i find to be more appropriate and that's a private decision of mine. i post here to engage in fun debate on a topic that is relevant to a sport that we all really like. i understand that others don't agree with my point of view...i'm sure my view has made others view me as more of a stepford fan. a blind paterno loyalist. whatever. i don't care. that doesn't bother me. but i do find it insulting when people start filling in some "vacuum" with accusations that i lack remorse for those who suffered from sandusky's evil. |
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Post by mscott59 on Feb 2, 2015 13:17:44 GMT -5
it's not just 'certain aspects'. every post has positioned paterno, psu, the football program, hell even the people who sell programs and popcorn at the games, as victims of the ncaa. it's been very noticeable from the onset your lack of even referencing these kids who sandusky abused. it leaves a vacuum. we certainly know how you feel about freeh, and emmert, et al. any opinion that you care significantly more for what happens to penn state football, paterno's legacy, etc, is understandable. i am allowed to oppose the ncaa's actions and sympathize with the victims at the same time. these aren't mutually exclusive things. this is a sports message boards drilled down to topics that relate to the ncaa, therefore, conversations about the awfulness and the sufferings due to sexual abuse is not very relevant here. there are other channels to express this remorse that i find to be more appropriate and that's a private decision of mine. i post here to engage in fun debate on a topic that is relevant to a sport that we all really like. i understand that others don't agree with my point of view...i'm sure my view has made others view me as more of a stepford fan. a blind paterno loyalist. whatever. i don't care. that doesn't bother me. but i do find it insulting when people start filling in some "vacuum" with accusations that i lack remorse for those who suffered from sandusky's evil. i don't make assumptions on who people are here, especially those i've never met. you choose, i choose, we all choose, to represent ourselves based on what we post. and i would argue that if we're talking about the ncaa and paterno and sandusky and psu execs and $60m fines, remembering why all those components are relevant imho is pretty essential. you choose not to, and that's fine. but don't then say you're insulted when others feel you're not keeping every person involved in this sordid affair in the proper perspective. |
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Post by snap infraction on Feb 2, 2015 15:02:20 GMT -5
i am allowed to oppose the ncaa's actions and sympathize with the victims at the same time. these aren't mutually exclusive things. this is a sports message boards drilled down to topics that relate to the ncaa, therefore, conversations about the awfulness and the sufferings due to sexual abuse is not very relevant here. there are other channels to express this remorse that i find to be more appropriate and that's a private decision of mine. i post here to engage in fun debate on a topic that is relevant to a sport that we all really like. i understand that others don't agree with my point of view...i'm sure my view has made others view me as more of a stepford fan. a blind paterno loyalist. whatever. i don't care. that doesn't bother me. but i do find it insulting when people start filling in some "vacuum" with accusations that i lack remorse for those who suffered from sandusky's evil. i don't make assumptions on who people are here, especially those i've never met. you choose, i choose, we all choose, to represent ourselves based on what we post. and i would argue that if we're talking about the ncaa and paterno and sandusky and psu execs and $60m fines, remembering why all those components are relevant imho is pretty essential. you choose not to, and that's fine. but don't then say you're insulted when others feel you're not keeping every person involved in this sordid affair in the proper perspective. i'm not sure that i agree. remembering why all those components are relevant is different than disagreeing with how everything was handled. therefore, i don't think it's fair to question perspective. i should point out the irony in this whole argument...the ncaa decision to intervene by arbitrarily quantifying loss of scholarships and bowls and past victories with protecting a child molester completely trivialized sandusky's horrendous crimes. and the ncaa all but admitted they messed up...yet when i rant against this, i am told my priorities aren't proper and that i don't care about the victims. |
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Post by mscott59 on Feb 2, 2015 15:45:37 GMT -5
i don't make assumptions on who people are here, especially those i've never met. you choose, i choose, we all choose, to represent ourselves based on what we post. and i would argue that if we're talking about the ncaa and paterno and sandusky and psu execs and $60m fines, remembering why all those components are relevant imho is pretty essential. you choose not to, and that's fine. but don't then say you're insulted when others feel you're not keeping every person involved in this sordid affair in the proper perspective. i'm not sure that i agree. remembering why all those components are relevant is different than disagreeing with how everything was handled. therefore, i don't think it's fair to question perspective. i should point out the irony in this whole argument...the ncaa decision to intervene by arbitrarily quantifying loss of scholarships and bowls and past victories with protecting a child molester completely trivialized sandusky's horrendous crimes. and the ncaa all but admitted they messed up...yet when i rant against this, i am told my priorities aren't proper and that i don't care about the victims. wait. you're saying the ncaa's actions against psu 'trivalized' the abuse against children perpetrated by psu's legendary assistant coach? a man who was awarded an office on psu's campus? are you reading what you say before you hit 'create post'? |
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Post by snap infraction on Feb 2, 2015 16:19:31 GMT -5
i'm not sure that i agree. remembering why all those components are relevant is different than disagreeing with how everything was handled. therefore, i don't think it's fair to question perspective. i should point out the irony in this whole argument...the ncaa decision to intervene by arbitrarily quantifying loss of scholarships and bowls and past victories with protecting a child molester completely trivialized sandusky's horrendous crimes. and the ncaa all but admitted they messed up...yet when i rant against this, i am told my priorities aren't proper and that i don't care about the victims. wait. you're saying the ncaa's actions against psu 'trivalized' the abuse against children perpetrated by psu's legendary assistant coach? a man who was awarded an office on psu's campus? are you reading what you say before you hit 'create post'? oh cmon. he was awarded an office as part of a deal for retiring well before the mcqueary episode. answer this question...do you believe that quantifying bowls, vacated wins and scholarships to knowingly protecting a child molester trivializes sandusky's crimes? do you think protecting a child molester is about equivalent to the benefits reggie bush received? |
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