North to Alaska !

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Nov 29, 2014 15:56:26 GMT -5 Coaltrain said:

Nov 29, 2014 15:09:37 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Yes.

details, please...

dtls pls of your dtls...

[oujour76]

Nov 29, 2014 15:56:26 GMT -5 Coaltrain said:

Nov 29, 2014 15:09:37 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Yes.

details, please...

Just read her post a little closer...by "oyster dressing" (and this being Thanksgiving), I assumed she meant stuffing. I've had that lots of times. The only detail I can give you is that I like it even though I don't really care for oysters all that much.

Now, if she means dressing as in something like salad dressing, then no...have never had that.

[Lee The Locksmith]

Nov 29, 2014 16:26:59 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Nov 29, 2014 15:56:26 GMT -5 Coaltrain said:

details, please...Just read her post a little closer...by "oyster dressing" (and this being Thanksgiving), I assumed she meant stuffing.

Boy, that sounds goooood

[oldgraylady]

Nov 29, 2014 16:26:59 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Nov 29, 2014 15:56:26 GMT -5 Coaltrain said:

details, please...

Just read her post a little closer...by "oyster dressing" (and this being Thanksgiving), I assumed she meant stuffing. I've had that lots of times. The only detail I can give you is that I like it even though I don't really care for oysters all that much.

Now, if she means dressing as in something like salad dressing, then no...have never had that.

Oyster stuffing, but it is not necessary to stuff anything. You can make it as stand-alone side dish--absolutely delicious. I have not made it myself, but I have enjoyed it. It is my brother-in-law's Thanksgiving specialty (along with his fried turkey, and cranberry nut relish).

[Coaltrain]

Nov 29, 2014 16:26:59 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Nov 29, 2014 15:56:26 GMT -5 Coaltrain said:

details, please...

Just read her post a little closer...by "oyster dressing" (and this being Thanksgiving), I assumed she meant stuffing. I've had that lots of times. The only detail I can give you is that I like it even though I don't really care for oysters all that much.

Now, if she means dressing as in something like salad dressing, then no...have never had that.

LOL! Yes, I was talking about oyster stuffing. A recipe, I want to try. I'm toying with the idea of mini version of the feast of the 7 fishes for Christmas this year. May make it 3 fishes. I'll be researching the lighter menu side dishes.

[oldgraylady]

Nov 29, 2014 21:42:56 GMT -5 Coaltrain said:

Nov 29, 2014 16:26:59 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Just read her post a little closer...by "oyster dressing" (and this being Thanksgiving), I assumed she meant stuffing. I've had that lots of times. The only detail I can give you is that I like it even though I don't really care for oysters all that much.

Now, if she means dressing as in something like salad dressing, then no...have never had that.

LOL! Yes, I was talking about oyster stuffing. A recipe, I want to try. I'm toying with the idea of mini version of the feast of the 7 fishes for Christmas this year. May make it 3 fishes. I'll be researching the lighter menu side dishes.

Are you of Italian/Catholic ancestry? Were you part of the message board when we had the Italian-American guy talk about his Christmas menu? Simply fascinating! I think he lived in Florida (originally from Connecticut). He was cool, but one day he just...disappeared .

[Lee The Locksmith]

Nov 29, 2014 23:40:21 GMT -5 oldgraylady said:

Nov 29, 2014 21:42:56 GMT -5 Coaltrain said:

LOL! Yes, I was talking about oyster stuffing. A recipe, I want to try. I'm toying with the idea of mini version of the feast of the 7 fishes for Christmas this year. May make it 3 fishes. I'll be researching the lighter menu side dishes.

Are you of Italian/Catholic ancestry? Were you part of the message board when we had the Italian-American guy talk about his Christmas menu? Simply fascinating! I think he lived in Florida (originally from Connecticut). He was cool, but one day he just...disappeared .

Eye kann tell you she ain't Italian....Don't wanna give anything away but look @ pic below

[Coaltrain]

Hey!! I resemble that!

[Coaltrain]

I still likes me some little italian occasionally......

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[Coaltrain]

You don't like pasta? ;(

[oldgraylady]

Nov 30, 2014 8:06:48 GMT -5 Lee The Locksmith said:

Nov 29, 2014 23:40:21 GMT -5 oldgraylady said:

Are you of Italian/Catholic ancestry? Were you part of the message board when we had the Italian-American guy talk about his Christmas menu? Simply fascinating! I think he lived in Florida (originally from Connecticut). He was cool, but one day he just...disappeared .

Eye kann tell you she ain't Italian....Don't wanna give anything away but look @ pic below

Which tribe?

[Coaltrain]

Abenaki of the Algonquin Nation.

Abenaki Location
Extending across most of northern New England into the southern part of the Canadian Maritimes, the Abenaki called their homeland Ndakinna meaning "our land." The eastern Abenaki were concentrated in Maine east of New Hampshire's White Mountains, while the western Abenaki lived west of the mountains across Vermont and New Hampshire to the eastern shores of Lake Champlain. The southern boundaries of the Abenaki homeland were near the present northern border of Massachusetts excluding the Pennacook country along the Merrimack River of southern New Hampshire. The maritime Abenaki occupied the St. Croix and the St. John's River Valleys near the border between Maine and New Brunswick. New England settlement and war forced many of the Abenaki to retreat north into Quebec where two large communities formed at St. Francois and Becancour near Trois-Rivieves. These have continued to the present-day. There are also three reservations in northern Maine (Penobscot, Passamaquoddy, and Maliseet) and seven Maliseet reserves located in New Brunswick and Quebec. Other groups of Abenaki, without reservations, are scattered across northern New Hampshire and Vermont.

This is easier to understand.

Population
Before contact the Abenaki (excluding the Pennacook and Micmac) may have numbered as many as 40,000 divided roughly between 20,000 eastern; 10,000 western; and 10,000 maritime. Due to early contacts with European fishermen, at least two major epidemics hit the Abenaki during the 1500s: an unknown sickness sometime between 1564 and 1570; and typhus in 1586. The major blow came in the decade just prior to English settlement of Massachusetts in 1620, when three separate epidemics swept across New England and the Canadian Maritimes. Maine was hit very hard during 1617 (75% mortality), and the population of the eastern Abenaki fell to about 5,000. The western Abenaki were more isolated and suffered relatively less, losing perhaps half of their original population. The new diseases continued to take their toll:

smallpox 1631, 1633, and 1639;
unknown epidemic 1646;
influenza 1647;
smallpox 1649;
diphtheria 1659;
smallpox 1670;
influenza 1675;
smallpox 1677 and 1679;
smallpox and measles 1687;
and smallpox 1691, 1729, 1733, 1755, and 1758.
The Abenaki population continued to decline, but after 1676 they absorbed thousands of refugees from southern New England displaced by settlement and the King Philip's War. As a result, descendents of almost every southern New England Algonquin (Pennacook, Narragansett, Pocumtuc, Nipmuc) can still be found among the Abenaki, especially the Sokoki (western Abenaki). After another century of war and disease, there were less than 1,000 Abenaki remaining after the American Revolution. The population has currently recovered to almost 12,000 on both sides of the border. Within the United States, the Abenaki are not, and never have been, federally recognized as a tribe. However, three component tribes in Maine: Penobscot, Passamaquoddy, and the Houlton Band of Maliseet, have this status.
The Penobscot have a reservation on Indian Island at Old Town, Maine and a tribal membership near 2,000. The Passamaquoddy number about 2,500 on three Maine reservations, Pleasant Point, Peter Dana Point, and Indian Township, while the Houlton Band of Maliseet Indians have close to 600. There are also seven Maliseet bands in Canada (470 in Quebec and 2,000 in New Brunswick) for a total of 3,000. Canada also has 400 Abenakis de Wolinak (Becancour) on a reserve near Trois-Rivieres, Quebec and almost 1,500 at Odanak (St. Francois) 30 miles to the southwest. The other Abenaki are scattered among the general populations of Quebec, New Brunswick, and northern New England. Currently there about 2,500 "Vermont Abenaki" in both Vermont and New Hampshire but concentrated in northwest Vermont near Lake Champlain. Organized as the Sokoki-St. Francis Band of the Abenaki Nation, a tribal council was established in 1976 at Swanton, Vermont. State recognition was granted that year but later withdrawn. In 1982 they applied for federal recognition which is still pending.


** So as far as government benefits go, there is none for the Abenaki. My Great, Great Grandmother was full blooded Abenaki. Now I have recently found that my Grandfather's father was also of Indian decent. Still trying to find out what tribe. My Grandfather was born out of wedlock so it took DNA testing to find out who his father was. Good thing we had other relatives alive to check it. So the family name of &&&& actually be *****. With over 300 relatives, that would be a lot of name changing.

[oldgraylady]

Dec 1, 2014 8:04:49 GMT -5 Coaltrain said:

Abenaki of the Algonquin Nation.

Abenaki Location
Extending across most of northern New England into the southern part of the Canadian Maritimes, the Abenaki called their homeland Ndakinna meaning "our land." The eastern Abenaki were concentrated in Maine east of New Hampshire's White Mountains, while the western Abenaki lived west of the mountains across Vermont and New Hampshire to the eastern shores of Lake Champlain. The southern boundaries of the Abenaki homeland were near the present northern border of Massachusetts excluding the Pennacook country along the Merrimack River of southern New Hampshire. The maritime Abenaki occupied the St. Croix and the St. John's River Valleys near the border between Maine and New Brunswick. New England settlement and war forced many of the Abenaki to retreat north into Quebec where two large communities formed at St. Francois and Becancour near Trois-Rivieves. These have continued to the present-day. There are also three reservations in northern Maine (Penobscot, Passamaquoddy, and Maliseet) and seven Maliseet reserves located in New Brunswick and Quebec. Other groups of Abenaki, without reservations, are scattered across northern New Hampshire and Vermont.

This is easier to understand.

Population
Before contact the Abenaki (excluding the Pennacook and Micmac) may have numbered as many as 40,000 divided roughly between 20,000 eastern; 10,000 western; and 10,000 maritime. Due to early contacts with European fishermen, at least two major epidemics hit the Abenaki during the 1500s: an unknown sickness sometime between 1564 and 1570; and typhus in 1586. The major blow came in the decade just prior to English settlement of Massachusetts in 1620, when three separate epidemics swept across New England and the Canadian Maritimes. Maine was hit very hard during 1617 (75% mortality), and the population of the eastern Abenaki fell to about 5,000. The western Abenaki were more isolated and suffered relatively less, losing perhaps half of their original population. The new diseases continued to take their toll:

smallpox 1631, 1633, and 1639;
unknown epidemic 1646;
influenza 1647;
smallpox 1649;
diphtheria 1659;
smallpox 1670;
influenza 1675;
smallpox 1677 and 1679;
smallpox and measles 1687;
and smallpox 1691, 1729, 1733, 1755, and 1758.
The Abenaki population continued to decline, but after 1676 they absorbed thousands of refugees from southern New England displaced by settlement and the King Philip's War. As a result, descendents of almost every southern New England Algonquin (Pennacook, Narragansett, Pocumtuc, Nipmuc) can still be found among the Abenaki, especially the Sokoki (western Abenaki). After another century of war and disease, there were less than 1,000 Abenaki remaining after the American Revolution. The population has currently recovered to almost 12,000 on both sides of the border. Within the United States, the Abenaki are not, and never have been, federally recognized as a tribe. However, three component tribes in Maine: Penobscot, Passamaquoddy, and the Houlton Band of Maliseet, have this status.
The Penobscot have a reservation on Indian Island at Old Town, Maine and a tribal membership near 2,000. The Passamaquoddy number about 2,500 on three Maine reservations, Pleasant Point, Peter Dana Point, and Indian Township, while the Houlton Band of Maliseet Indians have close to 600. There are also seven Maliseet bands in Canada (470 in Quebec and 2,000 in New Brunswick) for a total of 3,000. Canada also has 400 Abenakis de Wolinak (Becancour) on a reserve near Trois-Rivieres, Quebec and almost 1,500 at Odanak (St. Francois) 30 miles to the southwest. The other Abenaki are scattered among the general populations of Quebec, New Brunswick, and northern New England. Currently there about 2,500 "Vermont Abenaki" in both Vermont and New Hampshire but concentrated in northwest Vermont near Lake Champlain. Organized as the Sokoki-St. Francis Band of the Abenaki Nation, a tribal council was established in 1976 at Swanton, Vermont. State recognition was granted that year but later withdrawn. In 1982 they applied for federal recognition which is still pending.


** So as far as government benefits go, there is none for the Abenaki. My Great, Great Grandmother was full blooded Abenaki. Now I have recently found that my Grandfather's father was also of Indian decent. Still trying to find out what tribe. My Grandfather was born out of wedlock so it took DNA testing to find out who his father was. Good thing we had other relatives alive to check it. So the family name of &&&& actually be *****. With over 300 relatives, that would be a lot of name changing.

Cool.

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TMI!