Cavs vs Warriors Game 2

[Mickey34jb]

Wow...Great game tonight__The best player on the planet out-dueled the MVP__Curry was 0 for 8 against Delly (w' 3 or 4 turnovers). It's killing Wilbon to acknowledge that..On to Cleveland

[mscott59]

Jun 7, 2015 22:46:12 GMT -5 Mickey34jb said:

Wow...Great game tonight__The best player on the planet out-dueled the MVP__Curry was 0 for 8 against Delly (w' 3 or 4 turnovers). It's killing Wilbon to acknowledge that..On to Cleveland

Absolute gut check win. Tho when they were up 83-72 w 3:00 left I would've liked to see them have more composure down the stretch. But they got a split in the bay. Huge. Huge.

[Buckeye Dale]

Jun 7, 2015 23:14:08 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Jun 7, 2015 22:46:12 GMT -5 Mickey34jb said:

Wow...Great game tonight__The best player on the planet out-dueled the MVP__Curry was 0 for 8 against Delly (w' 3 or 4 turnovers). It's killing Wilbon to acknowledge that..On to Cleveland

Absolute gut check win. Tho when they were up 83-72 w 3:00 left I would've liked to see them have more composure down the stretch. But they got a split in the bay. Huge. Huge.

I couldn't believe the (lack of) calls towards the end. Doesn't the NBA have some sort of replay? Hard for me to watch games...I forced myself, and did watch big chunks.

[Lee The Locksmith]

Jun 8, 2015 2:58:36 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

Jun 7, 2015 23:14:08 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Absolute gut check win. Tho when they were up 83-72 w 3:00 left I would've liked to see them have more composure down the stretch. But they got a split in the bay. Huge. Huge.

I couldn't believe the (lack of) calls towards the end. Doesn't the NBA have some sort of replay? Hard for me to watch games...I forced myself, and did watch big chunks.

Once again, Cleveland scared the crap outa me by blowing a comfortable lead at the very end of the game ....

As far as the officiating goes, IT WAS HORRIBLE ! ....Talk about bought-and-paid-for refs ? Instant replay would have verified what all of us on saw on TV: Those refs should be FINED, FIRED and PROSECUTED !! As announcer Mike Breen stated, "These are series ending calls being made" .

I think you are Totally correct, Dale....Cleveland dug DEEP and tied the series up....Just about everybody has them counted out....They stepped up last night...hope it continues

[mscott59]

Jun 8, 2015 2:58:36 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

Jun 7, 2015 23:14:08 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Absolute gut check win. Tho when they were up 83-72 w 3:00 left I would've liked to see them have more composure down the stretch. But they got a split in the bay. Huge. Huge.

I couldn't believe the (lack of) calls towards the end. Doesn't the NBA have some sort of replay? Hard for me to watch games...I forced myself, and did watch big chunks.

when james got hacked on the baseline, after getting double-teamed late w/the shot clock running down, right in front of an official on the baseline, with no call, you had to wonder just what the ref was looking at during the play. it was obviously not the ball, and obviously not james' feet (he pretty plainly switched pivot feet, but it's well known that all prospective nba refs prone to calling traveling automatically fail their entrance exam to work in the league). jeff van gundy said during the broadcast something to the effect that he's never seen such a star player have fouls on him ignored, especially down the stretch. lebron got hit by at least 2 warriors (top of the key and at the basket) on his last drive in regulation, and green using james' shoulder as a lever on the jump ball play were two other times when the refs swallowed their whistles. no doubt he got his shared of questionable calls earlier in the game, and critics would say that things evened out at the end. but it sure was noticeable that the officials missed a few at key times.

as for james' performance? he played point guard for the entire game. how often does your 1 go 39 pts/16 reb/11 assists?? that's 34 triple doubles in the playoffs for this guy. 1st all time by a mile (larry bird is 2nd w/13). his shooting did go downhill as the game went on, and he couldn't get the last shot in for the 2nd game in a row. in the playoffs the cavs have lost their #2 and #3 scoring options, after losing another key player early in the season and turning their roster almost completely over. daleko talked about the miles on james, and that's true. what's even more true is that this guy's back is going to give out, from having entire teams on it so often.

one other note. matthew dellavedova played 42 minutes. 2nd on the cavs to james' 50 (out of a possible 53). he usually plays half that. he turned the ball over 6 times and scored just 9 points (including a crucial 3 and 2 ft's late). but he played the role of the annoying gnat flying around stephan curry's head. when delly was guarding curry, the mvp went 0-8, 0-5 on 3's, w/4 turnovers. for all the grinders out there, for all the people who couldn't see how a player like that (aaron craft comes to mind here too) could contribute in the nba, that was an example of how.

[mscott59]

when i saw irving start limping during ot of game 1, my thoughts immediately went back to a couple weeks prior. when after irving sat out a couple games in the atlanta series and the cavs actually flew him down south to have dr. james andrews evaluate his knee. because, we all know, when dr. james andrews deems you healthy, good enough to play, that that is gospel. there's no way a knee that's had multiple injuries can be re-injured, or or complications can occur to other areas of that part of your body. dr. james andrews has deemed it so when his diagnosis = the ok to play. i personally think irving owes dr. andrews an apology for getting hurt again.

[Lee The Locksmith]

Jun 8, 2015 7:01:40 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Jun 8, 2015 2:58:36 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

I couldn't believe the (lack of) calls towards the end. Doesn't the NBA have some sort of replay? Hard for me to watch games...I forced myself, and did watch big chunks.

when james got hacked on the baseline, after getting double-teamed late w/the shot clock running down, right in front of an official on the baseline, with no call, you had to wonder just what the ref was looking at during the play. it was obviously not the ball, and obviously not james' feet (he pretty plainly switched pivot feet, but it's well known that all prospective nba refs prone to calling traveling automatically fail their entrance exam to work in the league). jeff van gundy said during the broadcast something to the effect that he's never seen such a star player have fouls on him ignored, especially down the stretch. lebron got hit by at least 2 warriors (top of the key and at the basket) on his last drive in regulation, and green using james' shoulder as a lever on the jump ball play were two other times when the refs swallowed their whistles. no doubt he got his shared of questionable calls earlier in the game, and critics would say that things evened out at the end. but it sure was noticeable that the officials missed a few at key times.

as for james' performance? he played point guard for the entire game. how often does your 1 go 39 pts/16 reb/11 assists?? that's 34 triple doubles in the playoffs for this guy. 1st all time by a mile (larry bird is 2nd w/13). his shooting did go downhill as the game went on, and he couldn't get the last shot in for the 2nd game in a row. in the playoffs the cavs have lost their #2 and #3 scoring options, after losing another key player early in the season and turning their roster almost completely over. daleko talked about the miles on james, and that's true. what's even more true is that this guy's back is going to give out, from having entire teams on it so often.

one other note. matthew dellavedova played 42 minutes. 2nd on the cavs to james' 50 (out of a possible 53). he usually plays half that. he turned the ball over 6 times and scored just 9 points (including a crucial 3 and 2 ft's late). but he played the role of the annoying gnat flying around stephan curry's head. when delly was guarding curry, the mvp went 0-8, 0-5 on 3's, w/4 turnovers. for all the grinders out there, for all the people who couldn't see how a player like that (aaron craft comes to mind here too) could contribute in the nba, that was an example of how.

You forgot to mention that (apparently) J.R. Smith has decided to personally SCREW his own team with REDICULOUS fouls ! He needs to stay on the bench.....

[mscott59]

Jun 8, 2015 7:24:32 GMT -5 Lee The Locksmith said:

Jun 8, 2015 7:01:40 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

when james got hacked on the baseline, after getting double-teamed late w/the shot clock running down, right in front of an official on the baseline, with no call, you had to wonder just what the ref was looking at during the play. it was obviously not the ball, and obviously not james' feet (he pretty plainly switched pivot feet, but it's well known that all prospective nba refs prone to calling traveling automatically fail their entrance exam to work in the league). jeff van gundy said during the broadcast something to the effect that he's never seen such a star player have fouls on him ignored, especially down the stretch. lebron got hit by at least 2 warriors (top of the key and at the basket) on his last drive in regulation, and green using james' shoulder as a lever on the jump ball play were two other times when the refs swallowed their whistles. no doubt he got his shared of questionable calls earlier in the game, and critics would say that things evened out at the end. but it sure was noticeable that the officials missed a few at key times.

as for james' performance? he played point guard for the entire game. how often does your 1 go 39 pts/16 reb/11 assists?? that's 34 triple doubles in the playoffs for this guy. 1st all time by a mile (larry bird is 2nd w/13). his shooting did go downhill as the game went on, and he couldn't get the last shot in for the 2nd game in a row. in the playoffs the cavs have lost their #2 and #3 scoring options, after losing another key player early in the season and turning their roster almost completely over. daleko talked about the miles on james, and that's true. what's even more true is that this guy's back is going to give out, from having entire teams on it so often.

one other note. matthew dellavedova played 42 minutes. 2nd on the cavs to james' 50 (out of a possible 53). he usually plays half that. he turned the ball over 6 times and scored just 9 points (including a crucial 3 and 2 ft's late). but he played the role of the annoying gnat flying around stephan curry's head. when delly was guarding curry, the mvp went 0-8, 0-5 on 3's, w/4 turnovers. for all the grinders out there, for all the people who couldn't see how a player like that (aaron craft comes to mind here too) could contribute in the nba, that was an example of how.

You forgot to mention that (apparently) J.R. Smith has decided to personally SCREW his own team with REDICULOUS fouls ! He needs to stay on the bench.....

my wife, who hates pro hoops and was sitting next to me on the sofa simply because she had nothing else to do, even said 'why does that guy keep fouling?' lol. smith (along w/mozgov) actually played well in the first half, but man those two fouls (reach in in the back court, hacking barnes when he already had a clear dunk) late in the 4th were not helping my blood pressure. i'll give him a pass on buying the curry fake in the last 1:00... that was tough.

[Buckeye Dale]

Jun 8, 2015 9:14:35 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Jun 8, 2015 7:24:32 GMT -5 Lee The Locksmith said:

You forgot to mention that (apparently) J.R. Smith has decided to personally SCREW his own team with REDICULOUS fouls ! He needs to stay on the bench.....

my wife, who hates pro hoops and was sitting next to me on the sofa simply because she had nothing else to do, even said 'why does that guy keep fouling?' lol. smith (along w/mozgov) actually played well in the first half, but man those two fouls (reach in in the back court, hacking barnes when he already had a clear dunk) late in the 4th were not helping my blood pressure. i'll give him a pass on buying the curry fake in the last 1:00... that was tough.

I agree with the announcer about those calls.  Once the defender leaves his feet, if the O-player jumps into him like Curry did, the foul should have been on Curry (and I DID NOT like the chicken) 

[Lee The Locksmith]

Jun 8, 2015 7:01:40 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

..... and green using james' shoulder as a lever on the jump ball play were two other times when the refs swallowed their whistles.

That was flat-out bullshit that the ref called that the way he did !

Should be interesting (not) to see if those same refs are there for future GS home games

[Deleted]

I stopped watching the NBA a few years ago, mainly because of the crappy officiating.

As for J.R. Smith-- I used to watch him play for the Nuggets.  he would have moments of brilliance-- nailing multiple 3 pointers down the stretch-- but also has a history of committing bone-headed fouls.

Smith has always been a talented head case.

[Deleted]

Jun 7, 2015 22:46:12 GMT -5 Mickey34jb said:

Wow...Great game tonight__The best player on the planet out-dueled the MVP__Curry was 0 for 8 against Delly (w' 3 or 4 turnovers). It's killing Wilbon to acknowledge that..On to Cleveland

Curry is really starting to rub me the wrong way in this series.

He said after the game it was all a fluke and totally dissed Delly saying he's nothing special.

[mscott59]

Jun 8, 2015 15:23:31 GMT -5 @cwgbuckeyes7ncs said:

Jun 7, 2015 22:46:12 GMT -5 Mickey34jb said:

Wow...Great game tonight__The best player on the planet out-dueled the MVP__Curry was 0 for 8 against Delly (w' 3 or 4 turnovers). It's killing Wilbon to acknowledge that..On to Cleveland

Curry is really starting to rub me the wrong way in this series.

He said after the game it was all a fluke and totally dissed Delly saying he's nothing special.

a shooter's mentality is that the next one is going in. no surprise curry said that here... he did miss a number of open shots. dellavenova was also not the only guy who rotated on defending curry, so even if it was the d causing his cold hand it wasn't just the aussie. besides, why worry about curry's postgame pr? just beat his team again. lol. will be interesting to see what the warriors do, if anything, to get curry more open looks tomorrow night.

[daleko]

Jun 8, 2015 7:13:08 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

when i saw irving start limping during ot of game 1, my thoughts immediately went back to a couple weeks prior. when after irving sat out a couple games in the atlanta series and the cavs actually flew him down south to have dr. james andrews evaluate his knee. because, we all know, when dr. james andrews deems you healthy, good enough to play, that that is gospel. there's no way a knee that's had multiple injuries can be re-injured, or or complications can occur to other areas of that part of your body. dr. james andrews has deemed it so when his diagnosis = the ok to play. i personally think irving owes dr. andrews an apology for getting hurt again.

ET will never read this post. Too bad.

[daleko]

Jun 8, 2015 9:53:18 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

Jun 8, 2015 9:14:35 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

my wife, who hates pro hoops and was sitting next to me on the sofa simply because she had nothing else to do, even said 'why does that guy keep fouling?' lol. smith (along w/mozgov) actually played well in the first half, but man those two fouls (reach in in the back court, hacking barnes when he already had a clear dunk) late in the 4th were not helping my blood pressure. i'll give him a pass on buying the curry fake in the last 1:00... that was tough.

I agree with the announcer about those calls.  Once the defender leaves his feet, if the O-player jumps into him like Curry did, the foul should have been on Curry (and I DID NOT like the chicken) 

And at 6'8" and a solid 270 LJ does his bet impression of Shaquille's go to move on occasion. Just keep bouncing them back and lay it in. Be a paratrooper, you pay the price. Quid pro quo.