chip kelly blows it

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i thought chip kelly would be a different kind of coach in the nfl.  i thought he'd have balls.  here's the scenario:

eagles down 26-24 against atlanta.  it's a road game in a loud stadium.  there's about 3 minutes to go.  the eagles have the ball around atlanta's 27.  they failed to convert a third and 1, even though they attempted the third and 1 with their back up running back, not their huge free agent demarco murray who was the nfl's best rusher last year.  it's now 4th and 1.  chip kelly hesitates for a bit and then sends out the field goal unit with about 20 secs left on the play clock.  so of course, the eagles kicker is rushed and subsequently misses a field goal he makes about 90% of the time.  

chip kelly should have went for it on 4th and 1.  he wanted to go for it.  that's why you saw the initial hesitation in sending out the field goal unit.  but he did what every wussy football coach does.  he made a decision that put the blame on the players rather than his coaching decision.  too many coaches fear negative backlash for their decisions which is why they make incredibly risk adverse calls all the time.  football coaches would rather their players be blamed than themselves. and  instead of kelly getting crucified after the game, eagles kicker cody parkey took the brunt of the blame by fans.  it was generally accepted that kelly made the correct decision to go for the points.  

even if parkey made the rushed fg, atlanta still has 3 minutes to get 3 points.  and atlanta's offense was really good most of the game. and atlanta's fg kicker matt bryant is excellent.  if the eagles convert on fourth and 1, they were in good position to score a td, force atlanta to have to score a td and take valuable time off the clock.  and remember, the eagles now have demarco murray.  is there any other nfl RB you'd rather have for a 4 and 1?

you let me down chip.  you are supposed to be above these wussy decisions.  you're just like every other coach though.  afraid to take a risk even though taking the risk would have put your team in a better position to win.  you'd rather your kicker get scrutinized than your own decisions.  

[Buckeye Dale]

Sept 16, 2015 7:44:34 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

i thought chip kelly would be a different kind of coach in the nfl.  i thought he'd have balls.  here's the scenario:

eagles down 26-24 against atlanta.  it's a road game in a loud stadium.  there's about 3 minutes to go.  the eagles have the ball around atlanta's 27.  they failed to convert a third and 1, even though they attempted the third and 1 with their back up running back, not their huge free agent demarco murray who was the nfl's best rusher last year.  it's now 4th and 1.  chip kelly hesitates for a bit and then sends out the field goal unit with about 20 secs left on the play clock.  so of course, the eagles kicker is rushed and subsequently misses a field goal he makes about 90% of the time.  

chip kelly should have went for it on 4th and 1.  he wanted to go for it.  that's why you saw the initial hesitation in sending out the field goal unit.  but he did what every wussy football coach does.  he made a decision that put the blame on the players rather than his coaching decision.  too many coaches fear negative backlash for their decisions which is why they make incredibly risk adverse calls all the time.  football coaches would rather their players be blamed than themselves. and  instead of kelly getting crucified after the game, eagles kicker cody parkey took the brunt of the blame by fans.  it was generally accepted that kelly made the correct decision to go for the points.  

even if parkey made the rushed fg, atlanta still has 3 minutes to get 3 points.  and atlanta's offense was really good most of the game. and atlanta's fg kicker matt bryant is excellent.  if the eagles convert on fourth and 1, they were in good position to score a td, force atlanta to have to score a td and take valuable time off the clock.  and remember, the eagles now have demarco murray.  is there any other nfl RB you'd rather have for a 4 and 1?

you let me down chip.  you are supposed to be above these wussy decisions.  you're just like every other coach though.  afraid to take a risk even though taking the risk would have put your team in a better position to win.  you'd rather your kicker get scrutinized than your own decisions.  

I am NOT a Chip Kelly fan...however, just like people who berated Pete Carroll all winter long, look what happened Sunday afternoon between Seattle and the Rams.  Didn't see it?  Here's the BSPiN headline - Rams stuff Marshawn Lynch on fourth down in OT to survive Seahawks' rally...

[AlaCowboy]

Well, it was good to see the Stalers and the Iggles lose in opening week. Sort of like sweeping a double header. Then Seattle losing made it like a threepeat.

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Sept 16, 2015 8:10:21 GMT -5 Buckeye Dale said:

Sept 16, 2015 7:44:34 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

i thought chip kelly would be a different kind of coach in the nfl.  i thought he'd have balls.  here's the scenario:

eagles down 26-24 against atlanta.  it's a road game in a loud stadium.  there's about 3 minutes to go.  the eagles have the ball around atlanta's 27.  they failed to convert a third and 1, even though they attempted the third and 1 with their back up running back, not their huge free agent demarco murray who was the nfl's best rusher last year.  it's now 4th and 1.  chip kelly hesitates for a bit and then sends out the field goal unit with about 20 secs left on the play clock.  so of course, the eagles kicker is rushed and subsequently misses a field goal he makes about 90% of the time.  

chip kelly should have went for it on 4th and 1.  he wanted to go for it.  that's why you saw the initial hesitation in sending out the field goal unit.  but he did what every wussy football coach does.  he made a decision that put the blame on the players rather than his coaching decision.  too many coaches fear negative backlash for their decisions which is why they make incredibly risk adverse calls all the time.  football coaches would rather their players be blamed than themselves. and  instead of kelly getting crucified after the game, eagles kicker cody parkey took the brunt of the blame by fans.  it was generally accepted that kelly made the correct decision to go for the points.  

even if parkey made the rushed fg, atlanta still has 3 minutes to get 3 points.  and atlanta's offense was really good most of the game. and atlanta's fg kicker matt bryant is excellent.  if the eagles convert on fourth and 1, they were in good position to score a td, force atlanta to have to score a td and take valuable time off the clock.  and remember, the eagles now have demarco murray.  is there any other nfl RB you'd rather have for a 4 and 1?

you let me down chip.  you are supposed to be above these wussy decisions.  you're just like every other coach though.  afraid to take a risk even though taking the risk would have put your team in a better position to win.  you'd rather your kicker get scrutinized than your own decisions.  

I am NOT a Chip Kelly fan...however, just like people who berated Pete Carroll all winter long, look what happened Sunday afternoon between Seattle and the Rams.  Didn't see it?  Here's the BSPiN headline - Rams stuff Marshawn Lynch on fourth down in OT to survive Seahawks' rally...

good point.  at least carroll was on a super bowl and a national title.  

[mscott59]

Sept 16, 2015 7:44:34 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

i thought chip kelly would be a different kind of coach in the nfl.  i thought he'd have balls.  here's the scenario:

eagles down 26-24 against atlanta.  it's a road game in a loud stadium.  there's about 3 minutes to go.  the eagles have the ball around atlanta's 27.  they failed to convert a third and 1, even though they attempted the third and 1 with their back up running back, not their huge free agent demarco murray who was the nfl's best rusher last year.  it's now 4th and 1.  chip kelly hesitates for a bit and then sends out the field goal unit with about 20 secs left on the play clock.  so of course, the eagles kicker is rushed and subsequently misses a field goal he makes about 90% of the time.  

chip kelly should have went for it on 4th and 1.  he wanted to go for it.  that's why you saw the initial hesitation in sending out the field goal unit.  but he did what every wussy football coach does.  he made a decision that put the blame on the players rather than his coaching decision.  too many coaches fear negative backlash for their decisions which is why they make incredibly risk adverse calls all the time.  football coaches would rather their players be blamed than themselves. and  instead of kelly getting crucified after the game, eagles kicker cody parkey took the brunt of the blame by fans.  it was generally accepted that kelly made the correct decision to go for the points.  

even if parkey made the rushed fg, atlanta still has 3 minutes to get 3 points.  and atlanta's offense was really good most of the game. and atlanta's fg kicker matt bryant is excellent.  if the eagles convert on fourth and 1, they were in good position to score a td, force atlanta to have to score a td and take valuable time off the clock.  and remember, the eagles now have demarco murray.  is there any other nfl RB you'd rather have for a 4 and 1?

you let me down chip.  you are supposed to be above these wussy decisions.  you're just like every other coach though.  afraid to take a risk even though taking the risk would have put your team in a better position to win.  you'd rather your kicker get scrutinized than your own decisions.  

i think you're wrong. in the nfl you take the points. now, if there was a delay and your kicker is rushed, you take a to to calm things down. a 44 yd fg in the pros, indoors, is very reasonable in today's game. and atlanta's offense had NOT been good most of the game. it had been very effective in the first half, and exactly the opposite in the 2nd half. missing the fg does open the door for 2nd guessing, but so does going for it on 4th and 1 and not making it.

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Sept 16, 2015 8:46:43 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Sept 16, 2015 7:44:34 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

i thought chip kelly would be a different kind of coach in the nfl.  i thought he'd have balls.  here's the scenario:

eagles down 26-24 against atlanta.  it's a road game in a loud stadium.  there's about 3 minutes to go.  the eagles have the ball around atlanta's 27.  they failed to convert a third and 1, even though they attempted the third and 1 with their back up running back, not their huge free agent demarco murray who was the nfl's best rusher last year.  it's now 4th and 1.  chip kelly hesitates for a bit and then sends out the field goal unit with about 20 secs left on the play clock.  so of course, the eagles kicker is rushed and subsequently misses a field goal he makes about 90% of the time.  

chip kelly should have went for it on 4th and 1.  he wanted to go for it.  that's why you saw the initial hesitation in sending out the field goal unit.  but he did what every wussy football coach does.  he made a decision that put the blame on the players rather than his coaching decision.  too many coaches fear negative backlash for their decisions which is why they make incredibly risk adverse calls all the time.  football coaches would rather their players be blamed than themselves. and  instead of kelly getting crucified after the game, eagles kicker cody parkey took the brunt of the blame by fans.  it was generally accepted that kelly made the correct decision to go for the points.  

even if parkey made the rushed fg, atlanta still has 3 minutes to get 3 points.  and atlanta's offense was really good most of the game. and atlanta's fg kicker matt bryant is excellent.  if the eagles convert on fourth and 1, they were in good position to score a td, force atlanta to have to score a td and take valuable time off the clock.  and remember, the eagles now have demarco murray.  is there any other nfl RB you'd rather have for a 4 and 1?

you let me down chip.  you are supposed to be above these wussy decisions.  you're just like every other coach though.  afraid to take a risk even though taking the risk would have put your team in a better position to win.  you'd rather your kicker get scrutinized than your own decisions.  

i think you're wrong. in the nfl you take the points. now, if there was a delay and your kicker is rushed, you take a to to calm things down. a 44 yd fg in the pros, indoors, is very reasonable in today's game. and atlanta's offense had NOT been good most of the game. it had been very effective in the first half, and exactly the opposite in the 2nd half. missing the fg does open the door for 2nd guessing, but so does going for it on 4th and 1 and not making it.

atl started off the 2nd half as poorly as possible.  but just prior to the aforementioned eagles possession, atlanta had two scoring drives.  one drive was 14 plays and 62 yards that took nearly 8 minutes off the clock.  atlanta had adjusted to what the eagles did in the third quarter.  

like i said, if the fg was made, atlanta had plenty of time to get their kicker to field goal range.  if the 4th and 1 attempt was successful, one of two things would have probably happened....the eagles would have scored a TD and ATL would have needed a TD to win with less time.  Or the Eagles settle for a field goal anyway, but with less time on the clock for atlanta to respond, with the FG being a bit closer.  

you have demarco murrary.  you're chip kelly, who has developed this reputation around football as being innovative and unconventional.  yet you do what every other lame coach does in the situation.  it's disappointing.  

how bout tevin coleman.  i knew he was very underrated in college but i didn't think he would be this good. he def looks like a nfl starter to me. 

[daleko]

Sept 16, 2015 7:44:34 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

i thought chip kelly would be a different kind of coach in the nfl.  i thought he'd have balls.  here's the scenario:

eagles down 26-24 against atlanta.  it's a road game in a loud stadium.  there's about 3 minutes to go.  the eagles have the ball around atlanta's 27.  they failed to convert a third and 1, even though they attempted the third and 1 with their back up running back, not their huge free agent demarco murray who was the nfl's best rusher last year.  it's now 4th and 1.  chip kelly hesitates for a bit and then sends out the field goal unit with about 20 secs left on the play clock.  so of course, the eagles kicker is rushed and subsequently misses a field goal he makes about 90% of the time.  

chip kelly should have went for it on 4th and 1.  he wanted to go for it.  that's why you saw the initial hesitation in sending out the field goal unit.  but he did what every wussy football coach does.  he made a decision that put the blame on the players rather than his coaching decision.  too many coaches fear negative backlash for their decisions which is why they make incredibly risk adverse calls all the time.  football coaches would rather their players be blamed than themselves. and  instead of kelly getting crucified after the game, eagles kicker cody parkey took the brunt of the blame by fans.  it was generally accepted that kelly made the correct decision to go for the points.  

even if parkey made the rushed fg, atlanta still has 3 minutes to get 3 points.  and atlanta's offense was really good most of the game. and atlanta's fg kicker matt bryant is excellent.  if the eagles convert on fourth and 1, they were in good position to score a td, force atlanta to have to score a td and take valuable time off the clock.  and remember, the eagles now have demarco murray.  is there any other nfl RB you'd rather have for a 4 and 1?

you let me down chip.  you are supposed to be above these wussy decisions.  you're just like every other coach though.  afraid to take a risk even though taking the risk would have put your team in a better position to win.  you'd rather your kicker get scrutinized than your own decisions.  

I haven't spun down the posts but a cpl of things. No guar he makes it anyway, no guar they make the td, no guar Atl scores if they kick the FG. But your point is well made in that he did come into the league as a guy who rolls the dice, so it was a bit out of character. I guess he should of kept TT. And if he ends up 1 game short he may have wished he had.

[mscott59]

Sept 16, 2015 10:06:31 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

Sept 16, 2015 8:46:43 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

i think you're wrong. in the nfl you take the points. now, if there was a delay and your kicker is rushed, you take a to to calm things down. a 44 yd fg in the pros, indoors, is very reasonable in today's game. and atlanta's offense had NOT been good most of the game. it had been very effective in the first half, and exactly the opposite in the 2nd half. missing the fg does open the door for 2nd guessing, but so does going for it on 4th and 1 and not making it.

atl started off the 2nd half as poorly as possible.  but just prior to the aforementioned eagles possession, atlanta had two scoring drives.  one drive was 14 plays and 62 yards that took nearly 8 minutes off the clock.  atlanta had adjusted to what the eagles did in the third quarter.  

like i said, if the fg was made, atlanta had plenty of time to get their kicker to field goal range.  if the 4th and 1 attempt was successful, one of two things would have probably happened....the eagles would have scored a TD and ATL would have needed a TD to win with less time.  Or the Eagles settle for a field goal anyway, but with less time on the clock for atlanta to respond, with the FG being a bit closer.  

you have demarco murrary.  you're chip kelly, who has developed this reputation around football as being innovative and unconventional.  yet you do what every other lame coach does in the situation.  it's disappointing.  

how bout tevin coleman.  i knew he was very underrated in college but i didn't think he would be this good. he def looks like a nfl starter to me. 

after the missed fg, the eagles d did what they'd done most of the 2nd half; they held atlanta. 3 and out. so w/about 2:00 left, philly had the ball back. so to say the game was blown because they didn't go for it on 4th and 1 is just plain wrong. just because kelly didn't do the ballsy thing doesn't mean he did the wrong thing. his offense had not one, but two chances to score.

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     I didn't see the game, IHS, but I would have kicked the FG from the 27 for the win.  Certainly a greater chance of success than converting a 4th-and-1 in a noisy stadium-- especially since the Eagles had just failed to convert a 3rd-and-1.

     IMO, it's unfair to blame Chip Kelly for that particular call.

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Sept 16, 2015 10:44:13 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Sept 16, 2015 10:06:31 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

atl started off the 2nd half as poorly as possible.  but just prior to the aforementioned eagles possession, atlanta had two scoring drives.  one drive was 14 plays and 62 yards that took nearly 8 minutes off the clock.  atlanta had adjusted to what the eagles did in the third quarter.  

like i said, if the fg was made, atlanta had plenty of time to get their kicker to field goal range.  if the 4th and 1 attempt was successful, one of two things would have probably happened....the eagles would have scored a TD and ATL would have needed a TD to win with less time.  Or the Eagles settle for a field goal anyway, but with less time on the clock for atlanta to respond, with the FG being a bit closer.  

you have demarco murrary.  you're chip kelly, who has developed this reputation around football as being innovative and unconventional.  yet you do what every other lame coach does in the situation.  it's disappointing.  

how bout tevin coleman.  i knew he was very underrated in college but i didn't think he would be this good. he def looks like a nfl starter to me. 

after the missed fg, the eagles d did what they'd done most of the 2nd half; they held atlanta. 3 and out. so w/about 2:00 left, philly had the ball back. so to say the game was blown because they didn't go for it on 4th and 1 is just plain wrong. just because kelly didn't do the ballsy thing doesn't mean he did the wrong thing. his offense had not one, but two chances to score.

atlanta went 3 and out after the missed field b/c they went super conservative.  the eagles had no answer for julio jones the entire game, and trust me, he would have been more involved in atlanta's playcalling in the final few minutes had atlanta been down instead of trying to hold onto a 1 pt lead.  

maybe they would have lost either way.  but as a fan, i don't think it's unreasonable to expect kelly to do the ballsy thing in that situation.  there's a time to be ballsy and a time to play it safe.  i just don't think this was a time to play it safe.  

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Sept 16, 2015 12:08:51 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

     I didn't see the game, IHS, but I would have kicked the FG from the 27 for the win.  Certainly a greater chance of success than converting a 4th-and-1 in a noisy stadium-- especially since the Eagles had just failed to convert a 3rd-and-1.

     IMO, it's unfair to blame Chip Kelly for that particular call.

it's unfair for fans to blame cody parkey for missing the FG when he was rushed to get on the field.  

the FG from the 27 wasn't for the win.  It was to take a lead with 3 minutes left, which is an eternity in football.   

[oldgraylady]

Come on Sam. You can do better than this. Give Philly their money's worth you big Lurch. You're as slow as molasses.

[oldgraylady]

Oh boy, another interception and on and on and on.

[oujour76]

Sept 20, 2015 18:08:56 GMT -5 oldgraylady said:

Come on Sam. You can do better than this. Give Philly their money's worth you big Lurch. You're as slow as molasses.

Pains me to say it, but so far, he's a bust in the NFL.

[oujour76]

Sept 20, 2015 18:19:34 GMT -5 oldgraylady said:

Oh boy, another interception and on and on and on.

To add insult to injury, the new Dallas QB is from OSU, and he just threw a TD.