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Post by Walter on Dec 27, 2015 15:00:12 GMT -5
12/28/15 military bowl navy -3 vs pittsburgh PITT
quick lane bowl minnesota -6 vs central michigan MINNEHAHA
12/29/15 armed forces bowl california -7 vs air force CAL
russell athletic bowl baylor even vs north carolina TarHeels
arizona bowl colorado st -3 vs nevada ColoradoST.
texas bowl lsu -7 vs texas tech TTech
12/30/15 birmingham bowl auburn -2.5 vs memphis MEMPHIS
belk bowl mississippi st -5 vs n.c. state NCSTATE
music city bowl louisville -5 vs texas a&m LOUISVILLE
holiday bowl usc -3.5 vs wisconsin USC
12/31/15 peach bowl florida st. -7 vs houston HOUSTON
cotton bowl alabama -9.5 vs michigan st. MICHIGAN ST
orange bowl oklahoma -4 vs clemson OKLAHOMA
1/1/16 outback bowl tennessee -8.5 vs northwestern NORTHWESTERN
citrus bowl michigan -4.5 vs florida MICHIGAN
fiesta bowl ohio state -6.5 vs notre dame NOTRE DAME
rose bowl stanford -6.5 vs iowa STANFORD
sugar bowl mississippi -7 vs oklahoma st. OKST
1/2/16 taxslayer bowl georgia -6.5 vs penn st. PENNST
liberty bowl arkansas -12.5 vs kansas st. KSTATE
alamo bowl tcu -1 vs oregon OREGON
cactus bowl west virginia -1 vs arizona st. DEBBILS
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Post by bamorin on Dec 27, 2015 15:38:36 GMT -5
12/28/15 texas bowl lsu -7 vs texas tech TTechunless you're fingering LSU not being able to stop the TT offense, this game was made for LSU. It's possible the TT offense can move the ball through the air with ease......it's possible the LSU RB has enough yards in the first half to cement a 1st or 2nd round pick and comes up "gimpy" in the second half with a bad case of proitis. However, this game was hand picked for LSU. ESPN saw how bad they picked the bowl matches for the sEC west last year, and they certainly don't want a repeat.
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Post by daleko on Dec 27, 2015 20:11:11 GMT -5
12/28/15 texas bowl lsu -7 vs texas tech TTechunless you're fingering LSU not being able to stop the TT offense, this game was made for LSU. It's possible the TT offense can move the ball through the air with ease......it's possible the LSU RB has enough yards in the first half to cement a 1st or 2nd round pick and comes up "gimpy" in the second half with a bad case of proitis. However, this game was hand picked for LSU. ESPN saw how bad they picked the bowl matches for the sEC west last year, and they certainly don't want a repeat. They start a new league in Mexico? He's a soph.
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Post by daleko on Dec 27, 2015 21:01:20 GMT -5
Navy -3 Minnesota -6 California -7 North Carolina Colorado St -3 LSU -7 Aubarn -2.5 Mississippi St -5 Texas A&M +5 Wisconsin +3.5 Florida St. -7 Michigan st. +9.5 Oklahoma -4 Northwestern +8.5 Michigan -4.5 Ohio State -6.5 Stanford -6.5 Oklahoma St. +7 Penn St. +6.5 Arkansas -12.5 Oregon +1 West Virginia -1
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Post by gatr55555 on Dec 27, 2015 22:43:12 GMT -5
12/28/15 military bowl navy -3 vs pittsburgh Navy
quick lane bowl minnesota -6 vs central michigan Minnesnowta
12/29/15 armed forces bowl california -7 vs air force Cal
russell athletic bowl baylor even vs north carolina NC
arizona bowl colorado st -3 vs nevada Nevada
texas bowl lsu -7 vs texas tech LSU
12/30/15 birmingham bowl auburn -2.5 vs memphis Memphis
belk bowl mississippi st -5 vs n.c. state Miss St
music city bowl louisville -5 vs texas a&m aTm
holiday bowl usc -3.5 vs wisconsin Wisky
12/31/15 peach bowl florida st. -7 vs houston FSU
cotton bowl alabama -9.5 vs michigan st. Bama
orange bowl oklahoma -4 vs clemson Clemson
1/1/16 outback bowl tennessee -8.5 vs northwestern NW
citrus bowl michigan -4.5 vs florida Gators
fiesta bowl ohio state -6.5 vs notre dame ND
rose bowl stanford -6.5 vs iowa Iowa
sugar bowl mississippi -7 vs oklahoma st. Ole Miss
1/2/16 taxslayer bowl georgia -6.5 vs penn st. PSU
liberty bowl arkansas -12.5 vs kansas st. KS
alamo bowl tcu -1 vs oregon TCU
cactus bowl west virginia -1 vs arizona st. WV
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Post by kaz on Dec 27, 2015 23:53:25 GMT -5
Pittsburgh
Minnesota
California
Baylor
Colorado State
Texas Tech
Auburn
Mississippi State
Texas A&M
Wisconsin
Houston
Michigan State
Oklahoma
Northwestern
Michigan
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Penn State
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TCU
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Post by bamorin on Dec 28, 2015 8:23:14 GMT -5
unless you're fingering LSU not being able to stop the TT offense, this game was made for LSU. It's possible the TT offense can move the ball through the air with ease......it's possible the LSU RB has enough yards in the first half to cement a 1st or 2nd round pick and comes up "gimpy" in the second half with a bad case of proitis. However, this game was hand picked for LSU. ESPN saw how bad they picked the bowl matches for the sEC west last year, and they certainly don't want a repeat. They start a new league in Mexico? He's a soph. 2 years removed from HS is the rule I believe. Clarret tried to sue his way in after 1 year, didn't work.
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Post by cyberobb99 on Dec 28, 2015 8:58:57 GMT -5
I'm on travel so I haven't had time to do these picks.....not that it matters , since I seem to be stuck at getting about half of them right just like I did all season long.... At least, here are today's games....
12/28/15 military bowl navy -3 vs pittsburgh NAVY
quick lane bowl minnesota -6 vs central michigan Minisody
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Post by oujour76 on Dec 28, 2015 9:56:01 GMT -5
They start a new league in Mexico? He's a soph. 2 years removed from HS is the rule I believe. Clarret tried to sue his way in after 1 year, didn't work. 3 years...Clarret tried after 2.
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Dec 28, 2015 10:44:23 GMT -5
I'm on travel so I haven't had time to do these picks.....not that it matters , since I seem to be stuck at getting about half of them right just like I did all season long.... At least, here are today's games.... 12/28/15 military bowl navy -3 vs pittsburgh NAVY quick lane bowl minnesota -6 vs central michigan Minisody Not travelling, but got caught a bit short ... SHOULD have the rest by the end of the day, but just in case: Military Bowl - Navy, even with the -3...I figure they should win by at LEAST a TD, probably more. Quick Lane Bowl - My 'QUICK PICK' is with the Goofers. In fact (for another contest on another board) I have 'em winning 35-28.
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Post by trnyerheadncough on Dec 28, 2015 10:59:39 GMT -5
Trn's picks:
Pitt Minnesota Air Force Baylor Nevada Texas Tech Auburn NC State Louisville USC FSU Michigan State Clemson Northwestern Michigan Ohio State Iowa Ole Miss Georgia Arkansas Oregon Arizona State
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Post by bamorin on Dec 28, 2015 11:00:25 GMT -5
2 years removed from HS is the rule I believe. Clarret tried to sue his way in after 1 year, didn't work. 3 years...Clarret tried after 2.
might be 3 years removed......although, Clarret tried after his frosh season
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Post by mscott59 on Dec 28, 2015 11:15:43 GMT -5
12/28/15 military bowl navy -3 vs pittsburgh. navy gets to play a bowl game in its home stadium. send off for qb keenan reynolds, who's had a stellar career. navy lost only to houston and nd this year. pitt lost to the irish too, along w unc and iowa. emotional game for the panthers too, who've discovered that star rb james connor (injured in the opener) has hodgkin's. tough game to call; the academies are a combined 28-12 ats in bowls, 7-1 ats as chalk, while teams w/1st year coaches (narduzzi at pitt) are 46-66-1 ats in the post season. but pitt's seen the triple option this year (beat ga tech) and i'll take the points. loss
quick lane bowl minnesota -6 vs central michigan cmu finished the season strong, winning 5 of 6. gophers finished just the opposite, going 1-4 after coach kill's resignation due to his health issues. w/the game in detroit, the chippewas will have a home field edge, but w/clayes being named the permanent head coach, and having played the much tougher schedule, i think the gophers get it done. win
12/29/15 armed forces bowl california -7 vs air force cal started strong (5-0) and finished not so strong (2-5). jared goff is a 1st round qb pick and threw for 4200+ this year. but the falcons averaged 320+ rushing/game, and bowl teams getting +6/more who outrush their opponents are 41-6-1 ats. cal's defense is porous, and i think the flyboys stay under the number in a high scoring game. loss
russell athletic bowl baylor even vs north carolina you wonder what might have been for the bears, had qb seth russell not gotten hurt when they were 8-0. bu then lost 3 of its last 4, and both backup qb stidham and stud wr casey coleman are out for this one. you'd think the heels would have the edge, w/qb marquese williams and rb elijah hood (rushed for 1300+). but unc is just 2-5 su in its last 7 bowl games, their defense has been spotty and i think art briles has had enough time to get his new qb's in line. angry bears. win
arizona bowl colorado st -3 vs nevada 2 teams a little ticked to be playing each other, since they're both in the same league (mountain west) tho they didn't play each other this year. csu really had trouble holding onto the ball (26 turnovers) and mwc teams are just 1-7 ats as bowl favorites. win
texas bowl lsu -7 vs texas tech one of the more interesting matchups due to off-field dynamics surrounding lsu coach les miles after the tigers' 3 game losing streak in november. fournette (1700+ rushing yards) has to be salivating the thought of going up vs a tech defense that ALLOWS 6 YDS/CARRY!!! that sparked tt coach kliff klingsbury to fire nearly his entire defensive coaching staff. tech has a huge edge at qb (patrick mahomes-4280 yds/32 tds) but lsu is better everywhere else. i expect a ton of points here, and i think lsu gets the last score to cover. win
12/30/15 birmingham bowl auburn -2.5 vs memphis i read where, if this game had been played in week 1 this season, war eagle would have been a -17 favorite. hard to believe au was seen as a national title contender then. a qb shuffle and lots of injuries on defense didn't help. mu's qb paxton lynch will be another 1st rounder come spring, but despite memphis' win over ol' miss, i think auburn has more talent everywhere else. win
belk bowl mississippi st -5 vs n.c. state virtual home game in charlotte for the wolfpack, who's been really good (6-2 su, 7-1 ats) in recent bowl games. but... in 5 games vs bowl-bound opponents this year, nc state went 0-5 su and ats, as well as outgained in each game. bulldog qb dak prescott was pretty emotional after a subpar finale vs ol' miss, and i like his chances of bouncing back. msu has been pretty good (6-2 su, 5-3 ats) in recent bowl games too. win
music city bowl louisville -5 vs texas a&m bizarre qb soap opera in college station helped make l'ville a surprising favorite. cards should have a crowd edge in nashville, and an edge when the aggies have the ball (a&m scored 10 or less in 3 of 4 losses down the stretch). normally a sec team getting points in a bowl is a pretty good bet, but i think petrino's guys are more excited to play this one. win
holiday bowl usc -3.5 vs wisconsin a badger team that averaged under 150/game on the ground? that's what happened this year, mainly because corey clement got hurt early and never returned. but he'll be back and should be fresh. usc was with auburn in terms of pre-season buzz about contending for a national title, but losing 3 of 4 early and 2 of 3 late derailed any hopes, despite the midseason surge when clay helton took over for sark. uw's defensive numbers are real good, but they played 5 bowl teams while the trojans played 11. usc has won 13 straight (9-4 ats) vs big 10 foes. a hesitant nod to the cheeseheads, but i really like the under (51). win
12/31/15 peach bowl florida st. -7 vs houston i hear fsu has a decent rb, some guy named cook. lol. i think the more telling matchup will be the noles' talented defense vs cougar qb greg ward and the houston offense. and i wonder about whether fsu will be up enough for this one. cfb nerd stat; 1-loss league champs who are +5/more in bowl games and off a ccg win are 6-1 su/7-0 ats the last 7 games.
cotton bowl alabama -9.5 vs michigan st. that nerd stat above applies here too. as does sparty's amazing record as a dog; 10-0-1 ats/8-3 su the last 10 times getting 10/less. this may match up the two best sets of o-line/d-line in the country. no doubt about derrick henry's talent, while msu's run game has been more by committee. but i think the better qb performance wins this one. cook has been gritty but may still be dinged up, while coker has improved his play every week. last year osu gashed the tide secondary, and that remains ua's most vulnerable spot, relatively speaking. plus msu has won and covered 4 straight bowl games while alabama has dropped its last two. much has been said about saban's team taking this one more seriously, and i think that does nothing but build the chip on dantonio's shoulder even bigger. nick's never lost to a former assistant, but that could end here too. definitely too many points to give. especially in a game that i think is going to be a lower scoring slugfest.
orange bowl oklahoma -4 vs clemson that nerd stat above? fits here as well for the tigers. what ou has done since losing to texas has been nothing short of amazing, averaging 300/rush and 293/pass per game. but i can't get pass that their big wins over baylor and tcu and okie state came vs back up qb's. i read where the sooners are also 4-12 su/2-14 ats when they allow 17+; clemson is averaging 38/game. ou's defense is rock solid, and the tigers have had 25 turnovers this year. still, deshaun watson's dual threat i think is a little better than baker mayfield's.
1/1/16 outback bowl tennessee -8.5 vs northwestern the vols' 3 sec losses came by a total of 10 points. this is a talented team, and n'western, despite a shot to end a season w/11 wins for the first time in school history, has struggled on offense. but the wildcats on defense are good, and nu is 9-2 ats the last 11 times as a ooc dog, winning the last 5 outright. and tennessee's largest win vs a power 5 team w/a winning record was 7 points. not 8.5.
citrus bowl michigan -4.5 vs florida um is 2-0 su/ats vs uf in bowl games since '02. both have stellar defenses, but the wolverines got chewed up by osu, while the gators played valiantly vs alabama, getting absolutely no help from their offense. and 1st year coaches off a loss are just 14-27 ats in bowl games, and here's another cfb nerd stat i discovered; new year's day bowl favorites off allowing 35+ in their last game are just 1-13 ats vs teams w/a good (allow 21/less) defense. hard to see a lot of points being scored in this one, and that makes me lean to the dog.
fiesta bowl ohio state -6.5 vs notre dame if either of these teams were playing just about anyone else, after coming so close to making the playoff, there would be an extreme letdown alert. but with this matchup, just the 6th time the programs have played each other, that shouldn't be an issue. bucks were less effective on offense, but better on d than the '14 national champs. nd despite lots of injuries was better on offense, not quite as good on d. irish was 5-1 ats vs bowl competition this year; osu just 3-5 ats. plus the kelly's team was 3-0 su as a dog this season. nd has absolutely sucked in the post season (4-12 ats the last 16 bowl games) but i think they make this one close.
rose bowl stanford -6.5 vs iowa so, can the hawkeyes emotionally pick themselves up off the deck after that dramatic loss to msu in the big 10 ccg? stanford is better on offense/special teams thanks to mccaffrey, who may be the most fun player to watch with the ball in his hands in cfb. but iowa has the better defense. bowl dogs of 7+ who lost their ccg have covered 7 of the last 8. and despite the cardinal making their 3rd trip in 4 years to pasadena, there are estimates that 60,000 iowa fans will be inside the rose bowl (will anyone actually be left in iowa?). i like the points.
sugar bowl mississippi -7 vs oklahoma st. exciting year on the grove, as the rebels make their first sugar bowl trip in 45 years. cowboys started 10-0 before losing back to back to baylor and oklahoma. ol'miss is 12-3 su in bowl games lately, while the big 12 is just 2-13 su/ats vs sec foes in the post season. but i think the guys from stillwater have less pressure on them in this one and make it a game.
1/2/16 taxslayer bowl georgia -6.5 vs penn st. hackenberg got beat up again this year (39 sacks) but psu's d still plays well, and the freshman rb barkley i think is going to be a star. lots of change at uga this season and with an interim coach, i think 6+ is too much to give.
liberty bowl arkansas -12.5 vs kansas st. you wonder if this will be bill snyder's last game at ksu. the wildcats are great underdogs (23-8 ats) but horrible bowl team lately (2-7 su/1-8 ats) but the hogs aren't much better in the post season (5-13 su/6-12 ats).
alamo bowl tcu -1 vs oregon this figures to be a shootout, and i like boykin better going up against a suspect duck defense.
cactus bowl west virginia -1 vs arizona st. virtual home game for the sun devils, but asu allowed 500+ passing yards in 4 of their last 5 games. let's gggggoooooooo, mountaineers!!!!!!!!
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Post by oujour76 on Dec 28, 2015 11:52:35 GMT -5
3 years...Clarret tried after 2.
might be 3 years removed......although, Clarret tried after his frosh season Been a while, but I thought he played in 2002, got suspended for 2003 and after sitting out, sued to be included in the upcoming NFL draft...i.e. 2 years out of high school. Could be wrong, but that is the way I recall it.
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Post by mscott59 on Dec 28, 2015 12:09:55 GMT -5
might be 3 years removed......although, Clarret tried after his frosh season Been a while, but I thought he played in 2002, got suspended for 2003 and after sitting out, sued to be included in the upcoming NFL draft...i.e. 2 years out of high school. Could be wrong, but that is the way I recall it.
the nfl rule is a player is draft-eligible 3 years removed from his hs class. clarett got suspended in the summer of '03, first for a few games and then the entire season, by a.d. andy geiger. wasn't long after geiger's announcement that clarett sued to enter the nfl draft early (fall of '03). federal judge rules in clarett's favor in early '04. nfl appeals. just a few weeks later, the nyc-based circuit court sides w/the nfl. clarett's lawyers tried two different appeals to the supreme court, neither of which was heard.
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