Oh My!

[oldgraylady]

www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-super-bowl-50-highlights-racial-double-standard-nfl-article-1.2524445

[mscott59]

Feb 10, 2016 22:18:33 GMT -5 oldgraylady said:

www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-super-bowl-50-highlights-racial-double-standard-nfl-article-1.2524445

how is this an example of a double standard? manning was skewered in the press for going immediately to the locker room back then, and rightfully so. but this attempted analogy between he and newton completely ignores the context; peyton doesn't celebrate every first down with a choreographed 'look at me... i'm the greatest' dancing gesture, which is part of cam's m.o. if you brag about everything you do right, and rightly or wrongly many fans see it that way, you're more likely to come under the media microscope when things go wrong. that's human nature, not an example of racism.

[Buckeye Dale]

Feb 11, 2016 9:01:47 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Feb 10, 2016 22:18:33 GMT -5 oldgraylady said:

www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-super-bowl-50-highlights-racial-double-standard-nfl-article-1.2524445

how is this an example of a double standard? manning was skewered in the press for going immediately to the locker room back then, and rightfully so. but this attempted analogy between he and newton completely ignores the context; peyton doesn't celebrate every first down with a choreographed 'look at me... i'm the greatest' dancing gesture, which is part of cam's m.o. if you brag about everything you do right, and rightly or wrongly many fans see it that way, you're more likely to come under the media microscope when things go wrong. that's human nature, not an example of racism.

The HUMAN RACE...that makes it racism, right?

[Deleted]

Feb 10, 2016 22:18:33 GMT -5 oldgraylady said:

www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-super-bowl-50-highlights-racial-double-standard-nfl-article-1.2524445

I think you could post this in a few more forums as is your pathetic habit...

[oujour76]

Feb 11, 2016 9:01:47 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Feb 10, 2016 22:18:33 GMT -5 oldgraylady said:

www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-super-bowl-50-highlights-racial-double-standard-nfl-article-1.2524445

how is this an example of a double standard? manning was skewered in the press for going immediately to the locker room back then, and rightfully so. but this attempted analogy between he and newton completely ignores the context; peyton doesn't celebrate every first down with a choreographed 'look at me... i'm the greatest' dancing gesture, which is part of cam's m.o. if you brag about everything you do right, and rightly or wrongly many fans see it that way, you're more likely to come under the media microscope when things go wrong. that's human nature, not an example of racism.

WTF? You're looking at the whole picture? Racist.

[oldgraylady]

Feb 11, 2016 9:01:47 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Feb 10, 2016 22:18:33 GMT -5 oldgraylady said:

www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-super-bowl-50-highlights-racial-double-standard-nfl-article-1.2524445

how is this an example of a double standard? manning was skewered in the press for going immediately to the locker room back then, and rightfully so. but this attempted analogy between he and newton completely ignores the context; peyton doesn't celebrate every first down with a choreographed 'look at me... i'm the greatest' dancing gesture, which is part of cam's m.o. if you brag about everything you do right, and rightly or wrongly many fans see it that way, you're more likely to come under the media microscope when things go wrong. that's human nature, not an example of racism.

Fans, media, etc. tend to be excessively critical of black quarterbacks. We have seen it with. Vince Young and others, whereas it seems that white quarterbacks who fail to live up to the hype are treated more gently and their behavior is more likely to be overlooked or forgiven than that of black quarterbacks. It's like people are just waiting to see them fail.

[oujour76]

Feb 11, 2016 15:56:59 GMT -5 oldgraylady said:

Feb 11, 2016 9:01:47 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

how is this an example of a double standard? manning was skewered in the press for going immediately to the locker room back then, and rightfully so. but this attempted analogy between he and newton completely ignores the context; peyton doesn't celebrate every first down with a choreographed 'look at me... i'm the greatest' dancing gesture, which is part of cam's m.o. if you brag about everything you do right, and rightly or wrongly many fans see it that way, you're more likely to come under the media microscope when things go wrong. that's human nature, not an example of racism.

Fans, media, etc. tend to be excessively critical of black quarterbacks. We have seen it with. Vince Young and others, whereas it seems that white quarterbacks who fail to live up to the hype are treated more gently and their behavior is more likely to be overlooked or forgiven than that of black quarterbacks. It's like people are just waiting to see them fail.

Vince Young didn't fail because he's black. Cam Newton gets flak because he wants it both ways. Win or lose, there is an obligation to face the media. Newton seemingly brings attention to himself after every completed pass or first down..as such, he has an even bigger obligation. If he shirks that obligation, he gets labeled as a crybaby. Nothing unfair about that.

Let's say you're right and he is being held to a different standard...does that mean he didn't act like a petulant child? Does that excuse his actions? I say no. What say you?

Look, Cam Newton is a very bright guy, and he's not just some dumb ass, as some may portray him. But, the negative publicity he is now getting is all on him. He made his bed, so he gets to sleep in it.

[cbisbig]

Feb 11, 2016 9:01:47 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Feb 10, 2016 22:18:33 GMT -5 oldgraylady said:

www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-super-bowl-50-highlights-racial-double-standard-nfl-article-1.2524445

how is this an example of a double standard? manning was skewered in the press for going immediately to the locker room back then, and rightfully so. but this attempted analogy between he and newton completely ignores the context; peyton doesn't celebrate every first down with a choreographed 'look at me... i'm the greatest' dancing gesture, which is part of cam's m.o. if you brag about everything you do right, and rightly or wrongly many fans see it that way, you're more likely to come under the media microscope when things go wrong. that's human nature, not an example of racism.

Could'nt agree more, and fwiw, I've never liked how Newton does all the dancing and "look at me" bs. Then he pouts like a little baby when he gets his but handed to him. Immature imo

[mscott59]

Feb 11, 2016 15:56:59 GMT -5 oldgraylady said:

Feb 11, 2016 9:01:47 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

how is this an example of a double standard? manning was skewered in the press for going immediately to the locker room back then, and rightfully so. but this attempted analogy between he and newton completely ignores the context; peyton doesn't celebrate every first down with a choreographed 'look at me... i'm the greatest' dancing gesture, which is part of cam's m.o. if you brag about everything you do right, and rightly or wrongly many fans see it that way, you're more likely to come under the media microscope when things go wrong. that's human nature, not an example of racism.

Fans, media, etc. tend to be excessively critical of black quarterbacks. We have seen it with. Vince Young and others, whereas it seems that white quarterbacks who fail to live up to the hype are treated more gently and their behavior is more likely to be overlooked or forgiven than that of black quarterbacks. It's like people are just waiting to see them fail.

in 1972? agreed. in 2016? could not possibly disagree more. imho the sports world has been ahead of the cultural curve when it comes to race in many many areas. if what you claim is really true... the world would be all over newton for his actual performance in the game, despite the fact that he was knocked around more by the broncos than by any other opponent in his lifetime, i imagine. but the criticism... just criticism...is about something he had complete control over. his behavior after the game. he's not a teenager anymore. he's a professional. and part of being a pro is how you handle the pressure when it doesn't go your way. and especially when you're the qb, the leader of the team, the face of the franchise. his pouting was inappropriate, and he 100% deserves to be called on it.

you don't have to look back any further than last year. russell wilson brought his team back to the brink of a title and then threw a pick on the goal line at the very end. you could not have a more dramatic 180 from hero to goat. do you remember the criticism? it was there... it was about the playcall, the choice to throw instead of handing the ball off to lynch. it was legit. do you remember how wilson handled himself afterward? he was devasted, understandably so, but he handled his responsibilities with the media and answered questions. he bit the bullet. lebron james was in a similar position last year and responded in a similar fashion to wilson. unlike newton. you hope cam will learn, because he's so gifted. he has the potential... but he still has lots of growing up to do. answering reporters questions does not equal he's ok w/losing. and saying it's ok that he's a sore loser, like that a legit excuse to behave the way he did, shows he's not grown up yet.

[Walter]

As a side note, I was thinking about this the other day.

Back in the day, I don't ever remember the losing QB, or losing pitcher, or whatever, being trotted out in front of the cameras to be asked 50 Qs by 50 reporters. my recollection is maybe one reporter, who generally didn't want to be there, asking one or two Qs in a VERY quiet locker room to a usually still stunned and disappointed player. The coach or manager? I recall seeing that....but the players? Don't recall that.

I know things are different now, but still, that's gotta be a tough 15 minutes regardless of who you are or what your MO might be, and frankly, I'm not sure I even want to see the losing QB squirming in a chair. What am I getting out of that?

[oldgraylady]

It's hard to explain this, but
www.huffingtonpost.com/tyree-a-boydpates/cam-newton-and-the-threat-of-the-white-gaze_b_9185006.html

[oujour76]

Feb 11, 2016 19:09:22 GMT -5 oldgraylady said:

It's hard to explain this, but
www.huffingtonpost.com/tyree-a-boydpates/cam-newton-and-the-threat-of-the-white-gaze_b_9185006.html

The article say Cam Newton is revolutionary? Oh, Good Lord. His enthusiasm during the season was celebrated. His petulance after the Super Bowl was not. Pretty effing simple.

[Buckeye Dale]

Feb 11, 2016 16:24:23 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Feb 11, 2016 15:56:59 GMT -5 oldgraylady said:

Fans, media, etc. tend to be excessively critical of black quarterbacks. We have seen it with. Vince Young and others, whereas it seems that white quarterbacks who fail to live up to the hype are treated more gently and their behavior is more likely to be overlooked or forgiven than that of black quarterbacks. It's like people are just waiting to see them fail.

Vince Young didn't fail because he's black. Cam Newton gets flak because he wants it both ways. Win or lose, there is an obligation to face the media. Newton seemingly brings attention to himself after every completed pass or first down..as such, he has an even bigger obligation. If he shirks that obligation, he gets labeled as a crybaby. Nothing unfair about that.

Let's say you're right and he is being held to a different standard...does that mean he didn't act like a petulant child? Does that excuse his actions? I say no. What say you?

Look, Cam Newton is a very bright guy, and he's not just some dumb ass, as some may portray him. But, the negative publicity he is now getting is all on him. He made his bed, so he gets to sleep in it.

...and again, maybe he's treated differently because of the character issue...I mean, MOST of us have never stolen a laptop...

[Deleted]

Feb 11, 2016 19:09:22 GMT -5 oldgraylady said:

It's hard to explain this, but
www.huffingtonpost.com/tyree-a-boydpates/cam-newton-and-the-threat-of-the-white-gaze_b_9185006.html

What a load of pure SHIT. Act like a decent and humble human being and EVERYBODY will love you. Act like a jackass (gloat when you win, pout when you lose) and most people will sneer and be revolted by you.

Think Walter Peyton or Barry Sanders. Why is Barry Sanders my favorite running back of all time? Well, he was incredibly gifted of course but the main reason is that he was one of the most humble and unassuming people to have ever played the game. He didn't want the accolades or the spotlight. He played for a horrible team his entire career (my daughter's favorite team BTW) but never complained or pouted. I admire and look up to Barry Sanders probably more than any other player I've watched play during my lifetime.

Cam Newton isn't fit to shine Barry's shoes.

[oujour76]

Feb 12, 2016 20:59:58 GMT -5 @kelliers said:

Think Walter Peyton or Barry Sanders. Why is Barry Sanders my favorite running back of all time? Well, he was incredibly gifted of course but the main reason is that he was one of the most humble and unassuming people to have ever played the game. He didn't want the accolades or the spotlight. He played for a horrible team his entire career (my daughter's favorite team BTW) but never complained or pouted. I admire and look up to Barry Sanders probably more than any other player I've watched play during my lifetime.

You should appreciate this.