emmert on sanctions

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on tbs yesterday, mark emmert said "NCAA sanctions should target adults not athletes who didn't have anything to do with infractions"

[AlaCowboy]

Mar 28, 2016 11:16:14 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

on tbs yesterday, mark emmert said "NCAA sanctions should target adults not athletes who didn't have anything to do with infractions"

Agreed. A 5 year ban on coaching at an NCAA school for any coach caught cheating, and any athlete that knowingly cheats should have to pay the school back the cost of his/her scholarship.

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Mar 28, 2016 22:01:19 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

Mar 28, 2016 11:16:14 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

on tbs yesterday, mark emmert said "NCAA sanctions should target adults not athletes who didn't have anything to do with infractions"

Agreed. A 5 year ban on coaching at an NCAA school for any coach caught cheating, and any athlete that knowingly cheats should have to pay the school back the cost of his/her scholarship.

well it's funny that it seems the opposite has occurred under emmerts leadership.  

[mscott59]

Mar 30, 2016 8:32:06 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

Mar 28, 2016 22:01:19 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

Agreed. A 5 year ban on coaching at an NCAA school for any coach caught cheating, and any athlete that knowingly cheats should have to pay the school back the cost of his/her scholarship.

well it's funny that it seems the opposite has occurred under emmerts leadership.  

money alone doesn't work. money is part of the problem. money flowing from tv deals and sponsorship deals and boosters. make a player pay back his scholarship? there will likely be some kind of slush fund in the shadows to help him out. the 5 year ban for coaches who cheat? the 'show-cause' piece of ncaa punishment in effect already does that. knowingly cheating also would certainly be a debatable phrase.... did the athlete knowingly take illegal drugs? steroids and hgh could be easy to spot, but not stuff in cold medication to battle allergies when some of those substances are also on the banned list. was reggie bush knowingly cheating when his parents received money for a new house? when family members and friends of players get 'paid' for game tickets? there's a reason why the ncaa rulebook is now thousands of pages. people keep finding new ways to get around what already the law.

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Mar 30, 2016 10:01:46 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Mar 30, 2016 8:32:06 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

well it's funny that it seems the opposite has occurred under emmerts leadership.  

money alone doesn't work. money is part of the problem. money flowing from tv deals and sponsorship deals and boosters. make a player pay back his scholarship? there will likely be some kind of slush fund in the shadows to help him out. the 5 year ban for coaches who cheat? the 'show-cause' piece of ncaa punishment in effect already does that. knowingly cheating also would certainly be a debatable phrase.... did the athlete knowingly take illegal drugs? steroids and hgh could be easy to spot, but not stuff in cold medication to battle allergies when some of those substances are also on the banned list. was reggie bush knowingly cheating when his parents received money for a new house? when family members and friends of players get 'paid' for game tickets? there's a reason why the ncaa rulebook is now thousands of pages. people keep finding new ways to get around what already the law.

i don't have solutions.  i just think emmert is a hypocritical asshole who needs to be removed from his position b/c the shit he preaches contradicts what he actually does.  emmert ordered the code red and it's about time for him to be accountable for it.  

[mscott59]

Mar 30, 2016 12:50:10 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

Mar 30, 2016 10:01:46 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

money alone doesn't work. money is part of the problem. money flowing from tv deals and sponsorship deals and boosters. make a player pay back his scholarship? there will likely be some kind of slush fund in the shadows to help him out. the 5 year ban for coaches who cheat? the 'show-cause' piece of ncaa punishment in effect already does that. knowingly cheating also would certainly be a debatable phrase.... did the athlete knowingly take illegal drugs? steroids and hgh could be easy to spot, but not stuff in cold medication to battle allergies when some of those substances are also on the banned list. was reggie bush knowingly cheating when his parents received money for a new house? when family members and friends of players get 'paid' for game tickets? there's a reason why the ncaa rulebook is now thousands of pages. people keep finding new ways to get around what already the law.

i don't have solutions.  i just think emmert is a hypocritical asshole who needs to be removed from his position b/c the shit he preaches contradicts what he actually does.  emmert ordered the code red and it's about time for him to be accountable for it.  

complaining we're all decent at. but regulating college sports in a fair and equitable manner is already both difficult as well as complex, and getting moreso every day. psu's experience being a prime example

[snap infraction]

Mar 30, 2016 13:01:51 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Mar 30, 2016 12:50:10 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

i don't have solutions.  i just think emmert is a hypocritical asshole who needs to be removed from his position b/c the shit he preaches contradicts what he actually does.  emmert ordered the code red and it's about time for him to be accountable for it.  

complaining we're all decent at. but regulating college sports in a fair and equitable manner is already both difficult as well as complex, and getting moreso every day. psu's experience being a prime example

complaining is fun.  it is an outlet for built up frustration. 

yes regulating college sports is complex. but i'd argue penn state's experience is a prime example of when the ncaa made things more unnecessarily complicated.  the ncaa should never involve itself with a criminal investigation and should stick to governing athletic issues only.  and the courts agreed with me, which is why the ncaa surrendered and rescinded all penalties as soon as the ncaa was challenged in a court of law.  

[Walter]

Mar 30, 2016 13:01:51 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

Mar 30, 2016 12:50:10 GMT -5 snap infraction said:

i don't have solutions.  i just think emmert is a hypocritical asshole who needs to be removed from his position b/c the shit he preaches contradicts what he actually does.  emmert ordered the code red and it's about time for him to be accountable for it.  

complaining we're all decent at. but regulating college sports in a fair and equitable manner is already both difficult as well as complex, and getting moreso every day. psu's experience being a prime example

This brings me to my newest rant.
Seems to me that college sports is in the near same position as "amateur" status used to be for the Olympics. IMO, the NCAA needs to acknowledge this reality and embrace it with reasonable laws that address reality.

For instance...Johnny Football, (and I mean that generically, not to Manzell), is a star player for X-U. He signs a deal with Nike for $100. Of the hundred, the NCAA sets up a scholarship fund for every school in their system and $75 goes to THAT fund. The last $25 goes to the school, of which, say, half goes to the kid. EA sports signs with the NCAA to do basketball game....All the royalties go to the scholarship fund, equally administered for every school. OhioSt gets no more money for it than Eastern Squidunk Tech. Individual players that are obviously shown in the game, such as Ed O'Bannon, get a small piece individually.