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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 20:12:40 GMT -5
Walt, you are clearly biased against anything Trump does and should be able to spin any event into evolving from Russian influence. I think we should look into Trump's birth certificate. He was probably born in Vladivostok...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 20:24:22 GMT -5
This Republicon story about Ted Kennedy, apparently, surfaced around the time that some Republicon Senators were under the gun for trying to undermine the Iranian disarmament negotiations.
I'm going to study my books on the KGB Mitrokhin archives to see if there was any mention of it in the Russki files.
Until we get some legitimate documentation, I'm calling bullshit on the story. For one thing, Ted Kennedy wasn't even a Democratic front runner in 1984. That '84 race was between Walter Mondale and Gary Hart. (TK did challenge Carter in the 1980 Demo primaries.)
Oddly enough, for a guy who never attends political rallies, I was present at Faneuil Hall in Boston in 1980 when Ted Kennedy announced he was running for POTUS, and I was also at Union Station in Denver in 1984 when Gary Hart announced his candidacy. (Both candidates lost.)
I suspect that it is just one more wing nut piece of the anti-Kennedy propaganda that has inundated the U.S. media since 1960.
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Post by AlaCowboy on Jan 7, 2017 20:31:30 GMT -5
About to get what? Russian rule over the US?? Don't be stupid. I ain't sayin', I'm jus' sayin'....it's starting to stack up.... Trump has lots of business interests with rich Russian oligarchs. His son Eric spoke of it before Trump even decided to run, so we know that it is true. Trump hires a campaign manager whose only claim to fame about running a campaign since Gerald Ford was helping get a Putin puppet elected in Ukraine. Said campaign manager had a record of getting secret payments from Putin.Trump praises Putin whenever he speaks about him. Trump appoints a good friend of Putin as Sec. of State, a guy who received the highest civilian award in Russia. Trump refuses to believe American intelligence officials, believing instead a Russian agent. ....to be continued. |
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Post by Walter on Jan 7, 2017 20:48:03 GMT -5
I ain't sayin', I'm jus' sayin'....it's starting to stack up.... Trump has lots of business interests with rich Russian oligarchs. His son Eric spoke of it before Trump even decided to run, so we know that it is true. Trump hires a campaign manager whose only claim to fame about running a campaign since Gerald Ford was helping get a Putin puppet elected in Ukraine. Said campaign manager had a record of getting secret payments from Putin.Trump praises Putin whenever he speaks about him. Trump appoints a good friend of Putin as Sec. of State, a guy who received the highest civilian award in Russia. Trump refuses to believe American intelligence officials, believing instead a Russian agent. ....to be continued. Oh, and did I mention that Michel Flynn, the guy who will be the National Security Advisor was paid to give a speech to a Russian propaganda celebration put on by the very people fingered by the intelligence community as perpetrators of the Russian interference with US elections.....and was seated next to Putin? Did I mention that? ....to be continued.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 21:46:27 GMT -5
All these "secrets" seem to be revealed only to you and Nie der hut. Remember his knowledge of the "secret" meetings Cheney had with the oil companies? Oh, and did I mention that Michel Flynn, the guy who will be the National Security Advisor was paid to give a speech to a Russian propaganda celebration put on by the very people fingered by the intelligence community as perpetrators of the Russian interference with US elections.....and was seated next to Putin? Did I mention that? ....to be continued....
The U.S. has now become enslaved by Russia. Walt said so, and he is the official spokesman of the U.S. Govt.
Luckily I already know a little bit of the Russian language, so I have a head start on a lot of people. I will be able to collaborate with the enemy and save my own skin just like George Soros did. That will make me a Democrat HERO!!!!
I will also get first dibs on premium vodka.
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Post by bamorin on Jan 7, 2017 22:55:44 GMT -5
Many of the key judgments in this assessment rely on a body of reporting from multiple sources that are consistent with our understanding of Russian behavior.
In other words........"this is what we guess" Can you list the verifiable evidence? Because, this report doesn't, anywhere.
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Jan 7, 2017 23:59:25 GMT -5
Of course you won't blame the Russians. You've told us you prefer Russian rule over the US more than you do American rule if the American rule is by a Democrat. Well, now you're about to get it. About to get what? Russian rule over the US?? Don't be stupid. ...too late...WAY to flipping late. |
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Jan 8, 2017 0:03:30 GMT -5
Many of the key judgments in this assessment rely on a body of reporting from multiple sources that are consistent with our understanding of Russian behavior.
In other words........"this is what we guess" Can you list the verifiable evidence? Because, this report doesn't, anywhere. What government agency is "Assets.documentcloud.org?" This is this administration's administrative bullshit. |
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Post by lz2112 on Jan 8, 2017 0:58:32 GMT -5
Many of the key judgments in this assessment rely on a body of reporting from multiple sources that are consistent with our understanding of Russian behavior.
In other words........"this is what we guess" Can you list the verifiable evidence? Because, this report doesn't, anywhere. He is kinda going off the Willie end. The best thing to do is to calm him and agree with his babble. "Yes Walt. Putin is President. Shhhhh. It's okay, breathe a little. Shhhhh. It's ok. Think of a happy place." Perhaps a therapy dog or coloring books would help. |
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Post by Walter on Jan 8, 2017 5:58:22 GMT -5
Many of the key judgments in this assessment rely on a body of reporting from multiple sources that are consistent with our understanding of Russian behavior.
In other words........"this is what we guess" Can you list the verifiable evidence? Because, this report doesn't, anywhere. He is kinda going off the Willie end. The best thing to do is to calm him and agree with his babble. "Yes Walt. Putin is President. Shhhhh. It's okay, breathe a little. Shhhhh. It's ok. Think of a happy place." Perhaps a therapy dog or coloring books would help. Don't be silly. If there is a conflict of interest, it is an issue. Trump won't release has taxes or disclose to us who his business partners are. He tells us Russian agents are to be believed more than US intelligence services. Why is that? I'm not saying he's a Manchurian, but if the Russian sanctions are lifted one day for no particular reason...Let's just say, I'd like to see Trump's bank balance the next day and see if anything happened. |
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Post by bamorin on Jan 8, 2017 9:10:14 GMT -5
He is kinda going off the Willie end. The best thing to do is to calm him and agree with his babble. "Yes Walt. Putin is President. Shhhhh. It's okay, breathe a little. Shhhhh. It's ok. Think of a happy place." Perhaps a therapy dog or coloring books would help. Don't be silly. If there is a conflict of interest, it is an issue. Trump won't release has taxes or disclose to us who his business partners are. He tells us Russian agents are to be believed more than US intelligence services. Why is that? I'm not saying he's a Manchurian, but if the Russian sanctions are lifted one day for no particular reason...Let's just say, I'd like to see Trump's bank balance the next day and see if anything happened. and we're still waiting to see college transcripts. not to mention in the article posted........where exactly does it say the russians did this? It reads like a bunch of people (unknown people at that) got together and said....."this sounds like something the ruskies would do......therefore they did it" |
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Post by Walter on Jan 8, 2017 9:21:37 GMT -5
Don't be silly. If there is a conflict of interest, it is an issue. Trump won't release has taxes or disclose to us who his business partners are. He tells us Russian agents are to be believed more than US intelligence services. Why is that? I'm not saying he's a Manchurian, but if the Russian sanctions are lifted one day for no particular reason...Let's just say, I'd like to see Trump's bank balance the next day and see if anything happened. and we're still waiting to see college transcripts. not to mention in the article posted........where exactly does it say the russians did this? It reads like a bunch of people (unknown people at that) got together and said....."this sounds like something the ruskies would do......therefore they did it" The very first page explains why the declassified version isn't specific. Means and methods and all that spy stuff. You choose to believe Putin. I get it. I don't. |
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Jan 8, 2017 9:50:10 GMT -5
and we're still waiting to see college transcripts. not to mention in the article posted........where exactly does it say the russians did this? It reads like a bunch of people (unknown people at that) got together and said....."this sounds like something the ruskies would do......therefore they did it" The very first page explains why the declassified version isn't specific. Means and methods and all that spy stuff. You choose to believe Putin. I get it. I don't. You don't get it? We've known that for some time. You're still struggling with ABC. Or going back further, ABO. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2017 10:40:02 GMT -5
Don't be silly. If there is a conflict of interest, it is an issue. Trump won't release has taxes or disclose to us who his business partners are. He tells us Russian agents are to be believed more than US intelligence services. Why is that? I'm not saying he's a Manchurian, but if the Russian sanctions are lifted one day for no particular reason...Let's just say, I'd like to see Trump's bank balance the next day and see if anything happened. and we're still waiting to see college transcripts. not to mention in the article posted........where exactly does it say the russians did this? It reads like a bunch of people (unknown people at that) got together and said....."this sounds like something the ruskies would do......therefore they did it" (pssst...........'fake news'.........don't tell no one..........liberals have already run out of clean underwear......) |
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Post by Walter on Jan 8, 2017 10:56:30 GMT -5
and we're still waiting to see college transcripts. not to mention in the article posted........where exactly does it say the russians did this? It reads like a bunch of people (unknown people at that) got together and said....."this sounds like something the ruskies would do......therefore they did it" (pssst...........'fake news'.........don't tell no one..........liberals have already run out of clean underwear......) Ah...another Putin fan chimes in. |
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