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Post by Walter on Jan 10, 2017 8:26:24 GMT -5
Gotta be hard to know if you are draining a swamp if you can't measure the water level.
New House rules specifically forbid the CBO from scoring the cost to the budget of repealing Obamacare.
Now why do you think they would do such a thing?
Any ideas?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 8:34:25 GMT -5
Gotta be hard to know if you are draining a swamp if you can't measure the water level. New House rules specifically forbid the CBO from scoring the cost to the budget of repealing Obamacare. Now why do you think they would do such a thing? Any ideas? |
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Post by Walter on Jan 10, 2017 9:10:43 GMT -5
Gotta be hard to know if you are draining a swamp if you can't measure the water level. New House rules specifically forbid the CBO from scoring the cost to the budget of repealing Obamacare. Now why do you think they would do such a thing? Any ideas? ..because I don't know how to C&P on a cellphone. It's in the newly passed, "Rules of the House", House Res. 5, pages 25-26. It talks about how all bills over 5 billion MUST be scored by CBO, and then specifically bars scoring of any bill that repeals the ACA. Strange, aint it? Or...not so strange. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 9:19:46 GMT -5
Why do you post crap without giving a clue of where you got it from? ..because I don't know how to C&P on a cellphone. It's in the newly passed, "Rules of the House", House Res. 5, pages 25-26. It talks about how all bills over 5 billion MUST be scored by CBO, and then specifically bars scoring of any bill that repeals the ACA. Strange, aint it? Or...not so strange.
Sit back, relax, and start breathing again. All the little snowflakes are still safe for now.
Unlike spendthrift Dems, the Trump administration WILL work to keep costs in gov't down.
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Post by Walter on Jan 10, 2017 9:27:36 GMT -5
..because I don't know how to C&P on a cellphone. It's in the newly passed, "Rules of the House", House Res. 5, pages 25-26. It talks about how all bills over 5 billion MUST be scored by CBO, and then specifically bars scoring of any bill that repeals the ACA. Strange, aint it? Or...not so strange.
Sit back, relax, and start breathing again. All the little snowflakes are still safe for now.
Unlike spendthrift Dems, the Trump administration WILL work to keep costs in gov't down.
I will bet you a nickel that if the Republicans retain control of Congress, the yearly budget deficits will be higher every single year for the next 4 years than this year's deficit. |
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Post by bamorin on Jan 10, 2017 9:40:14 GMT -5
Probably because there ARE no bills to repeal ACA. Contrary to Democrat LIES, no one is going to yank the rug out from under the poor folks. Changes WILL be made, but gradually, and they will be for the good.
Sit back, relax, and start breathing again. All the little snowflakes are still safe for now.
Unlike spendthrift Dems, the Trump administration WILL work to keep costs in gov't down.
I will bet you a nickel that if the Republicans retain control of Congress, the yearly budget deficits will be higher every single year for the next 4 years than this year's deficit. that would be due to, inflation.......which the democrats set into a higher velocity for down the road when they assumed control over both houses in 06 |
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Post by Walter on Jan 10, 2017 9:42:46 GMT -5
I will bet you a nickel that if the Republicans retain control of Congress, the yearly budget deficits will be higher every single year for the next 4 years than this year's deficit. that would be due to, inflation.......which the democrats set into a higher velocity for down the road when they assumed control over both houses in 06 LOL...Tell me you didn't just write that... |
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Post by Walter on Jan 10, 2017 9:45:58 GMT -5
I wonder if the Republicans don't want to score the repeal of the ACA because last time the idea was scored we discovered that repeal would increase the deficit by 137 billion dollars.
Ya think?
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Post by bamorin on Jan 10, 2017 10:33:35 GMT -5
I wonder if the Republicans don't want to score the repeal of the ACA because last time the idea was scored we discovered that repeal would increase the deficit by 137 billion dollars. Ya think? how so? Coulda swore all you proponents of it were claiming it would reduce the personal costs of healthcare. |
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Post by Walter on Jan 10, 2017 10:36:55 GMT -5
Gotta be hard to know if you are draining a swamp if you can't measure the water level. New House rules specifically forbid the CBO from scoring the cost to the budget of repealing Obamacare. Now why do you think they would do such a thing? Any ideas? As a followup, here's the relevant text from House Res 5: (1) CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE ANALYSIS OF PROPOSALS.—The Director of the Congressional Budget Office shall, to the extent practicable, prepare an estimate of whether a bill or joint resolution reported by a committee (other than the Committee on Appropriations), or amendment thereto or conference report thereon, would cause, relative to current law, a net increase in direct spending in excess of $5,000,000,000 in any of the 4 consecutive 10-fiscal year periods beginning with the first fiscal year that is 10 fiscal years after the current fiscal year. (2) POINT OF ORDER.—It shall not be in order to consider any bill or joint resolution reported by a committee, or amendment thereto or conference report thereon, that would cause a net increase in direct spending in excess of $5,000,000,000 in any of the 4 consecutive 10-fiscal year periods described in paragraph (1). (3) DETERMINATIONS OF BUDGET LEVELS.—For purposes of this subsection, the levels of net increases in direct spending shall be determined on the basis of estimates provided by the chair of the Committee on the Budget. (4) LIMITATION.—This subsection shall not apply
to any bill or joint resolution, or amendment thereto or
conference report thereon-
(A) repealing the Patient Protection and Affordable
Care Act and title I and subtitle B of title
II of the Health Care and Education Affordability
Reconciliation Act of 2010;(B) reforming the Patient Protection and Affordable
Care Act and the Health Care and Education
Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010; or(C) for which the chair of the Committee on the Budget has made an adjustment to the allocations, levels, or limits contained in the most recently adopted concurrent resolution on the budget. www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-resolution/5 |
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Post by Walter on Jan 10, 2017 10:39:17 GMT -5
I wonder if the Republicans don't want to score the repeal of the ACA because last time the idea was scored we discovered that repeal would increase the deficit by 137 billion dollars. Ya think? how so? Coulda swore all you proponents of it were claiming it would reduce the personal costs of healthcare. So Willie is right? For Republicans, deficits don't matter, as long as it's them creating the deficit? LMAO!!! |
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Post by Walter on Jan 10, 2017 10:40:48 GMT -5
..because I don't know how to C&P on a cellphone. It's in the newly passed, "Rules of the House", House Res. 5, pages 25-26. It talks about how all bills over 5 billion MUST be scored by CBO, and then specifically bars scoring of any bill that repeals the ACA. Strange, aint it? Or...not so strange.
Sit back, relax, and start breathing again. All the little snowflakes are still safe for now.
Unlike spendthrift Dems, the Trump administration WILL work to keep costs in gov't down.
Even if the changes are "made gradually", they still won't be scored by the CBO.... I think we can all guess why they don't want to see that.... |
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Post by bamorin on Jan 10, 2017 10:41:40 GMT -5
how so? Coulda swore all you proponents of it were claiming it would reduce the personal costs of healthcare. So Willie is right? For Republicans, deficits don't matter, as long as it's them creating the deficit? LMAO!!! I was right, another simple question of basic economics you can't answer. i'll try to make it a little simpler question. 2 + 2 =  ? |
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Post by Walter on Jan 10, 2017 10:44:42 GMT -5
Why do you post crap without giving a clue of where you got it from? As a followup, here's the relevant text from House Res 5: (1) CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE ANALYSIS OF PROPOSALS.—The Director of the Congressional Budget Office shall, to the extent practicable, prepare an estimate of whether a bill or joint resolution reported by a committee (other than the Committee on Appropriations), or amendment thereto or conference report thereon, would cause, relative to current law, a net increase in direct spending in excess of $5,000,000,000 in any of the 4 consecutive 10-fiscal year periods beginning with the first fiscal year that is 10 fiscal years after the current fiscal year. (2) POINT OF ORDER.—It shall not be in order to consider any bill or joint resolution reported by a committee, or amendment thereto or conference report thereon, that would cause a net increase in direct spending in excess of $5,000,000,000 in any of the 4 consecutive 10-fiscal year periods described in paragraph (1). (3) DETERMINATIONS OF BUDGET LEVELS.—For purposes of this subsection, the levels of net increases in direct spending shall be determined on the basis of estimates provided by the chair of the Committee on the Budget. (4) LIMITATION.—This subsection shall not apply
to any bill or joint resolution, or amendment thereto or
conference report thereon-
(A) repealing the Patient Protection and Affordable
Care Act and title I and subtitle B of title
II of the Health Care and Education Affordability
Reconciliation Act of 2010;(B) reforming the Patient Protection and Affordable
Care Act and the Health Care and Education
Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010; or(C) for which the chair of the Committee on the Budget has made an adjustment to the allocations, levels, or limits contained in the most recently adopted concurrent resolution on the budget. www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-resolution/5So, to review....if a bill will cost more that 5 billion dollars, it has to be scored by CBO....unless it's Obamacare, even though the last scoring indicated a deficit estimate of $137 billion. We have to conclude that for Republicans, 137 is less than 5. |
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Post by Walter on Jan 10, 2017 10:49:24 GMT -5
So Willie is right? For Republicans, deficits don't matter, as long as it's them creating the deficit? LMAO!!! I was right, another simple question of basic economics you can't answer. i'll try to make it a little simpler question. 2 + 2 = ? Spin, ballerina, spin!! Bottom line...repeal of the ACA will not be scored. Your job is to explain why that is a good thing. |
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