2016 GOP VOTER SUPPRESSION

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    I'm starting a new "conspiracy theory" thread on the subject of voting irregularities in the 2016 U.S. election.

    In particular, there are emerging allegations about widespread vote purging and voter suppression in Republicon states.

    It took time, and effort, for researchers like Greg Palast to expose the major voter suppression measures taken by then Governor Jeb Bush in the 2000 Florida election.

    Most people were aware of the problems with butterfly ballots in Dade County, and other Bush dirty tricks in 2000, but were not aware of the voter purging arranged by Jeb Bush in that election until later.

    Here's a new allegation about GOP voter suppression in Arizona in 2016.



Did Maricopa County deny Arizona residents the right to vote?
A leading Democrat in the county believes as many as 58,000 citizens may have been denied a vote in November

www.salon.com/2017/05/02/did-maricopa-county-deny-arizona-residents-the-right-to-vote/



May 2, 2017

President Donald Trump’s claim that voter fraud cost him the popular vote is almost certainly spurious, but one elected Democrat in Arizona is convinced that misplaced efforts to prevent voter fraud have actually cost real citizens their right to vote.

Maricopa County Recorder Adrian Fontes is hiring new employees to research the citizenship status of individuals whose voter registration attempts were denied, according to a report by The Arizona Republic. They are going to go through the Arizona Motor Vehicle Department, which verifies citizenship for driver’s licenses, and have been instructed by Fontes to add prospective voters into the state’s database if they find proof that the individual in question is in fact a citizen.

As Fontes told The Arizona Republic: “We are not in the business of creating obstacles to citizens to exercise their constitutional rights.”

Fontes said he was inspired to do this after discovering up to 100,000 state-issued voter-registration forms that had been left in files for more than a decade but had not been saved in the voter database. Because Arizona law requires voter applicants to include proof of citizenship in their registration forms, Fontes is concerned that up to 58,000 citizens in Maricopa County may have been unjustly denied the right to vote.

That said, as Republican election attorney Joe Kanefield told The Arizona Republic, Fontes may not have the legal right to simply add these individuals to the rolls. The law in the state makes it clear that “if a voter-registration form is received and does not contain evidence of citizenship, the registrar shall reject it,” Kanefield explained.




   

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doc, are you saying that you think hillary had it in the bag but the vote was rigged for trump? more importantly, why do you think it was rigged for trump? hillary had the bilderburg blessing and chris messina running the campaign, so i am still surprised.

did you agree with my earlier assessment in that other thread?

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May 2, 2017 21:42:40 GMT -5 frmthegrav said:

doc, are you saying that you think hillary had it in the bag but the vote was rigged for trump? more importantly, why do you think it was rigged for trump? hillary had the bilderburg blessing and chris messina running the campaign, so i am still surprised.

did you agree with my earlier assessment in that other thread?

Yes, Graver.  I responded in detail.

As I mentioned, Hillary's Electoral College outcome was multi-determined.

I do believe that James Comey, and the apparent GOP voter suppression in a few swing states, played major roles in the EC vote count.

The moguls who own the media also spent millions defaming Hillary for years prior to November.

[frmthegrav]

ok-- just read your reply from the other thread.  here is my take on it, further in depth:


weve got hillary who was supposed to be the next president. supported by: bilderburg, TPTB, etc. i wasnt here for the election, so i dont know what the week prior to the election was like (re: comey), but if it was anything like october, then i dont see anything special.

if the bilderburgers/TPTB changed their mind after the bilderburg meeting in june of 2016, then they couldve easily done so. again, i am going on the premise that presidents are Selected, not Elected. lets be real: no ones vote counts when the voting machine software can be rigged and votes can be conveniently lost and found, and dead people vote and 102% of an area vote.

so the only way, IMO, that trump won was if TPTB decided to permit him to win. its just a matter of possible reasons:

-hillarys health was too extreme (lets face it-- that incident at 9-11? come on. she was a disaster, and people were on to the body doubles -- by the way, prof. jim fetzers new book covers that.)

- alt media and 'the truth' was destroying her and the TPTB decided to keep the growing revolt/civil war toned down. too much dirt was exposed on her, and it was damage control. perhaps the podesta emails eventually tie in to hillary and bill w/r/t pizzagate pedophilia. it was a move to squash it (like how the FBI simply wrapped up the sandusky case quick so that the threads of it didnt start leading up to... well, a situation like pizzagate.) essentially, i am saying that hillarys presidency (through her skeletons in her closet) was too much of a liability. it could get out of hand.  this is why biden cannot run.

- putting trump in, instead could cause more tension than putting hillary in, as the MSM supports hillary. TPTB want chaos on their terms.

- late change of plans.  hillarys/the liberal agenda of cultural marxism and gun control was put on the back burner because military aggression is a bigger aim for TPTB.  however... as weve agreed, hillary was surprisingly the bigger warmonger during the run up to the election.  it was trump who was the peacemaker, mr. 'i will work with putin'.  i think that rules out this possibility.  perhaps TPTB have gone too fast with cultural marxism and gun control and their false flags.  perhaps letting this go to the back burner for 4 years is a good thing.  4 years of trump and putting him into military situations could bring more people over to the liberal side and gun control.  its the millenials that are the most indoctrinated with cultural marxism-- not the older generation and gen X -ers.  i think the majority of them arent buying that crap.  the millenials are totally different-- its just a matter of time for all the baby boomers to die off, for all the gen-Xers to get old and to become ignored, and the millenials to consider cultural marxism "normal".  it will happen.  (remember the history of oil clip i posted-- colbert report-- how rockefeller/standard oil was able to rewrite history on their terms by creating controlling foundations for learning with professors/eduators that agreed with their POV, making their POV the only POV).  same here.  pedophilia could easily become "a preference".

  
   for sure, it was not white hats that managed to swing the election to trump in order to "save the USA".  absolutely none of them have our best interests in mind.  regardless of what the public majority wanted, trump got in because THEY put him in.

   i suppose we will have a better understanding of what happened towards the end of the year, based on what trump has done and, if possible, who in his cabinet is the real shot caller behind the scenes.  certainly, jared kushner is one to watch. 

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How about just shooting down all the black helicopters and admitting that the majority of Americans are NOT stupid?   The voters and the electoral college were smart enough to know that Hitlery Rotten Clinton had NO BUSINESS being anywhere near the Presidency of the United States.  We didn't need outside help to dump that bag of shit in the garbage can.

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May 3, 2017 11:13:33 GMT -5 @muttmk2 said:

How about just shooting down all the black helicopters and admitting that the majority of Americans are NOT stupid?   The voters and the electoral college were smart enough to know that Hitlery Rotten Clinton had NO BUSINESS being anywhere near the Presidency of the United States.  We didn't need outside help to dump that bag of shit in the garbage can.

Oh, really?   Is that why Trump lost the U.S. popular vote by 3,000,000 votes?

According to Greg Palast, Trump won the EC by a combined total of only 40,000 votes-- carefully distributed in 1% margins in four critical swing states that were polling for Clinton in pre-election and exit polls.

Hence, the question marks about GOP Voter Crosscheck and GOP voter suppression.


The GOP's Stealth War Against Voters
Will an anti-voter-fraud program designed by one of Trump's advisers deny tens of thousands their right to vote in November?

www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-gops-stealth-war-against-voters-w435890

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Republicans were wildly successful at suppressing voters in 2016
Three GOP-controlled states demonstrate the effectiveness of disenfranchising the opposition
thinkprogress.org/2016-a-case-study-in-voter-suppression-258b5f90ddcd



November 15, 2016

Last week, the first election in 50 years without the full protection of the federal Voting Rights Act propelled Donald Trump to the White House.

Trump will assume the presidency because of the Electoral College’s influence — though nearly three million more people cast ballots for Hillary Clinton. The election was also marked by low turnout, with tens of millions of eligible voters choosing not to participate at all. Yet there has been relatively little discussion about the millions of people who were eligible to vote but could not do so because they faced an array of newly-enacted barriers to the ballot box.

Their systematic disenfranchisement was intentional and politically motivated. In the years leading up to 2016, Republican governors and state legislatures implemented new laws restricting when, where, and how people could vote — laws that disproportionately harmed students, the poor, and people of color. In several instances, lawmakers pushing such policies said explicitly that their goal was suppression of voters who favor the Democratic Party.

Three such states serve as case studies for the effectiveness of these voting restrictions: Wisconsin, North Carolina, and Florida.

All three elected staunchly conservative governors during President Obama’s terms. All three implemented voting restrictions that affect millions of people. President Obama won all three states in 2008, and won all but North Carolina in 2012, while Hillary Clinton lost all three of those states this year.

Read more: aolcfboutcasts.proboards.com/thread/29042/apocalypse#ixzz4g2Aq3OLh

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May 3, 2017 11:13:33 GMT -5 @muttmk2 said:

ow about just shooting down all the black helicopters and admitting that the majority of Americans are NOT stupid?   The voters and the electoral college were smart enough to know that Hitlery Rotten Clinton had NO BUSINESS being anywhere near the Presidency of the United States.  We didn't need outside help to dump that bag Hof shit in the garbage can.

    mutt, are you that naive to think that we actually elect our presidents and senators? 
 

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May 3, 2017 20:20:45 GMT -5 frmthegrav said:

May 3, 2017 11:13:33 GMT -5 @muttmk2 said:

ow about just shooting down all the black helicopters and admitting that the majority of Americans are NOT stupid?   The voters and the electoral college were smart enough to know that Hitlery Rotten Clinton had NO BUSINESS being anywhere near the Presidency of the United States.  We didn't need outside help to dump that bag Hof shit in the garbage can.

    mutt, are you that naive to think that we actually elect our presidents and senators? 
 

Naaaaah.  The Russians do it for us.  Just ask Hitlery.

Do you keep your conspiracy theories in alphabetical order or by date of creation?

It has just been revealed that John Wilkes Booth was a Russian operative.  Check into that, will you?

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May 3, 2017 20:47:29 GMT -5 @muttmk2 said:

May 3, 2017 20:20:45 GMT -5 frmthegrav said:

    mutt, are you that naive to think that we actually elect our presidents and senators? 
 

Naaaaah.  The Russians do it for us.  Just ask Hitlery.

Do you keep your conspiracy theories in alphabetical order or by date of creation?
It has just been revealed that John Wilkes Booth was a Russian operative.  Check into that, will you?

     the difference between hillarys idiotic conspiracy theory (that continues to thrive via MSM) and a legit one is that the legit ones have something called EVIDENCE.  there is zero evidence that the russians were involved.  (FTR, theres evidence that the US was involved in tampering with their elections.)

    what do you think these days, mutt, now that you dont have bill oreilly on fox to do your thinking for you? 

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May 2, 2017 22:45:58 GMT -5 frmthegrav said:

ok-- just read your reply from the other thread.  here is my take on it, further in depth:


weve got hillary who was supposed to be the next president. supported by: bilderburg, TPTB, etc. i wasnt here for the election, so i dont know what the week prior to the election was like (re: comey), but if it was anything like october, then i dont see anything special.

if the bilderburgers/TPTB changed their mind after the bilderburg meeting in june of 2016, then they couldve easily done so. again, i am going on the premise that presidents are Selected, not Elected. lets be real: no ones vote counts when the voting machine software can be rigged and votes can be conveniently lost and found, and dead people vote and 102% of an area vote.

so the only way, IMO, that trump won was if TPTB decided to permit him to win. its just a matter of possible reasons:

-hillarys health was too extreme (lets face it-- that incident at 9-11? come on. she was a disaster, and people were on to the body doubles -- by the way, prof. jim fetzers new book covers that.)

- alt media and 'the truth' was destroying her and the TPTB decided to keep the growing revolt/civil war toned down. too much dirt was exposed on her, and it was damage control. perhaps the podesta emails eventually tie in to hillary and bill w/r/t pizzagate pedophilia. it was a move to squash it (like how the FBI simply wrapped up the sandusky case quick so that the threads of it didnt start leading up to... well, a situation like pizzagate.) essentially, i am saying that hillarys presidency (through her skeletons in her closet) was too much of a liability. it could get out of hand.  this is why biden cannot run.

- putting trump in, instead could cause more tension than putting hillary in, as the MSM supports hillary. TPTB want chaos on their terms.

- late change of plans.  hillarys/the liberal agenda of cultural marxism and gun control was put on the back burner because military aggression is a bigger aim for TPTB.  however... as weve agreed, hillary was surprisingly the bigger warmonger during the run up to the election.  it was trump who was the peacemaker, mr. 'i will work with putin'.  i think that rules out this possibility.  perhaps TPTB have gone too fast with cultural marxism and gun control and their false flags.  perhaps letting this go to the back burner for 4 years is a good thing.  4 years of trump and putting him into military situations could bring more people over to the liberal side and gun control.  its the millenials that are the most indoctrinated with cultural marxism-- not the older generation and gen X -ers.  i think the majority of them arent buying that crap.  the millenials are totally different-- its just a matter of time for all the baby boomers to die off, for all the gen-Xers to get old and to become ignored, and the millenials to consider cultural marxism "normal".  it will happen.  (remember the history of oil clip i posted-- colbert report-- how rockefeller/standard oil was able to rewrite history on their terms by creating controlling foundations for learning with professors/eduators that agreed with their POV, making their POV the only POV).  same here.  pedophilia could easily become "a preference".

  
   for sure, it was not white hats that managed to swing the election to trump in order to "save the USA".  absolutely none of them have our best interests in mind.  regardless of what the public majority wanted, trump got in because THEY put him in.

   i suppose we will have a better understanding of what happened towards the end of the year, based on what trump has done and, if possible, who in his cabinet is the real shot caller behind the scenes.  certainly, jared kushner is one to watch. 

Graver,


I think the NWO decision to back Trump was mainly about;

1)  Money-- Trump tax cuts for the NWO billionaires, and

2)  Military--the perception that Trump was more likely to bomb Iran-- the last step in the Yinon Plan (following the destruction of Syria.)


As for debating with Mutt about Deep State history, it's a complete waste of time.

Mutt still believes that JFK was shot in the back of the head by three Oswald Carcano rifle shots from the TSBD.

[frmthegrav]

May 3, 2017 21:22:13 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

May 2, 2017 22:45:58 GMT -5 frmthegrav said:

ok-- just read your reply from the other thread.  here is my take on it, further in depth:


weve got hillary who was supposed to be the next president. supported by: bilderburg, TPTB, etc. i wasnt here for the election, so i dont know what the week prior to the election was like (re: comey), but if it was anything like october, then i dont see anything special.

if the bilderburgers/TPTB changed their mind after the bilderburg meeting in june of 2016, then they couldve easily done so. again, i am going on the premise that presidents are Selected, not Elected. lets be real: no ones vote counts when the voting machine software can be rigged and votes can be conveniently lost and found, and dead people vote and 102% of an area vote.

so the only way, IMO, that trump won was if TPTB decided to permit him to win. its just a matter of possible reasons:

-hillarys health was too extreme (lets face it-- that incident at 9-11? come on. she was a disaster, and people were on to the body doubles -- by the way, prof. jim fetzers new book covers that.)

- alt media and 'the truth' was destroying her and the TPTB decided to keep the growing revolt/civil war toned down. too much dirt was exposed on her, and it was damage control. perhaps the podesta emails eventually tie in to hillary and bill w/r/t pizzagate pedophilia. it was a move to squash it (like how the FBI simply wrapped up the sandusky case quick so that the threads of it didnt start leading up to... well, a situation like pizzagate.) essentially, i am saying that hillarys presidency (through her skeletons in her closet) was too much of a liability. it could get out of hand.  this is why biden cannot run.

- putting trump in, instead could cause more tension than putting hillary in, as the MSM supports hillary. TPTB want chaos on their terms.

- late change of plans.  hillarys/the liberal agenda of cultural marxism and gun control was put on the back burner because military aggression is a bigger aim for TPTB.  however... as weve agreed, hillary was surprisingly the bigger warmonger during the run up to the election.  it was trump who was the peacemaker, mr. 'i will work with putin'.  i think that rules out this possibility.  perhaps TPTB have gone too fast with cultural marxism and gun control and their false flags.  perhaps letting this go to the back burner for 4 years is a good thing.  4 years of trump and putting him into military situations could bring more people over to the liberal side and gun control.  its the millenials that are the most indoctrinated with cultural marxism-- not the older generation and gen X -ers.  i think the majority of them arent buying that crap.  the millenials are totally different-- its just a matter of time for all the baby boomers to die off, for all the gen-Xers to get old and to become ignored, and the millenials to consider cultural marxism "normal".  it will happen.  (remember the history of oil clip i posted-- colbert report-- how rockefeller/standard oil was able to rewrite history on their terms by creating controlling foundations for learning with professors/eduators that agreed with their POV, making their POV the only POV).  same here.  pedophilia could easily become "a preference".

  
   for sure, it was not white hats that managed to swing the election to trump in order to "save the USA".  absolutely none of them have our best interests in mind.  regardless of what the public majority wanted, trump got in because THEY put him in.

   i suppose we will have a better understanding of what happened towards the end of the year, based on what trump has done and, if possible, who in his cabinet is the real shot caller behind the scenes.  certainly, jared kushner is one to watch. 

Graver,


I think the NWO decision to back Trump was mainly about;

1)  Money-- Trump tax cuts for the NWO billionaires, and

2)  Military--the perception that Trump was more likely to bomb Iran-- the last step in the Yinon Plan (following the destruction of Syria.)


As for debating with Mutt about Deep State history, it's a complete waste of time.

Mutt still believes that JFK was shot in the back of the head by three Oswald Carcano rifle shots from the TSBD.

     doc, gimme a break!  LOL.   tax cuts???  why would they even care when they control the money supply?  you know the federal reserve is privately controlled by the banking cartel.  they can print up as much money as they like.  power and control, doc.

     your military idea is far more valid.  still, hillary had no qualms about taking out khaddafi and then laughing at his death.

     as far as mutt is concerned, we were all asleep and ignorant of what really is taking place once.  if he continues to ask, ill continue to answer.   like in 2001 a space odyssey where the ape figures out to use a bone as a weapon, mutt could figure out critical thinking.  it could happen!

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Graver,

     Mutt is one of the Thought Police.  Always has been, at least on this forum.

[frmthegrav]

doc, theres a few articles out there on trump and how he couldve been Selected on zero hedge and/or activist post you should read. ive got to get to bed so i dont have time to link to em, but take a look for them.

interesting viewpoints.

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May 3, 2017 20:54:57 GMT -5 frmthegrav said:

May 3, 2017 20:47:29 GMT -5 @muttmk2 said:

Naaaaah.  The Russians do it for us.  Just ask Hitlery.

Do you keep your conspiracy theories in alphabetical order or by date of creation?
It has just been revealed that John Wilkes Booth was a Russian operative.  Check into that, will you?

     the difference between hillarys idiotic conspiracy theory (that continues to thrive via MSM) and a legit one is that the legit ones have something called EVIDENCE.  there is zero evidence that the russians were involved.  (FTR, theres evidence that the US was involved in tampering with their elections.)

    what do you think these days, mutt, now that you dont have bill oreilly on fox to do your thinking for you? 

Bill who?
I don't watch FOX any more than I watch CNN.   All either one talks about is Trump, Trump, Trump.
FOX at least tells the truth, but I don't need to hear it 24 hours a day.  I am interested in NEWS .....  something that "news reporters" no longer cover.

BTW, we know for a FACT that Barry the Fairy tried to influence the Israeli elections with his constant anti-Netanyahu lying rhetoric.  Loony liberals have said NOTHING to condemn THAT.