9MM vs .223 vs 12 gauge

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Holy crap.
This is fun!!!!

I'm convinced.  I am going to carry my Winchester Model 1300 everywhere I go now.

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About what I expected but would've rather he used regular old M193 55gr for the AR.
Looks like the antis better get busy banning shotguns.

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Aug 31, 2017 20:53:20 GMT -5 @kelliers said:

About what I expected but would've rather he used regular old M193 55gr for the AR.
Looks like the antis better get busy banning shotguns.

I might be wrong, but I can't see where a 55 gr. FMJ would perform better than a 50 gr. HP.   I would expect the ball ammo to zip right on through.
I'm not a rifle expert, so I'm just guessing.


FTR, all of my .223's are 55 gr ball.  I can't see spending more money on HP's just to play with.   
[There's that word "play" again.   Is Rox gonna come unglued again?]  

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M193 tumbles pretty quickly causing devastating wound channels.

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Sept 1, 2017 9:17:07 GMT -5 @kelliers said:

M193 tumbles pretty quickly causing devastating wound channels.

I always thought that was a bit of a myth, but I've researched it, and it seems to be spot on.  
However, ALL bullets will tumble since the rear portion is heavier than the front, and momentum wants to make the heavy end pass up the lighter end.   It is probably more pronounced in long spitzer type rifle projectiles than in short fat pistol bullets.  I'm just guessing on that part, though.