Civics Lesson for Loony Liberals and Retarded Lawyers

[daleko]

Sept 27, 2017 9:06:02 GMT -5 @muttthemaster said:

Sept 27, 2017 8:46:01 GMT -5 @kelliers said:

Ummm... every gun mfr. wants to fix your gun for free if it's their fault. You bugger it up with some half-assed mod you pay to have them fix it.

Ruger repairs guns for free that simply wear out from normal use.  That is NOT their "fault."  If YOU fukc up your gun, of course YOU are responsible!
Now what other mfg gives away FREE PARTS?

Sorry you don't get it.


If you don't like Rugers, don't buy them.   But don't speak when you don't know what you are talking about.

Not wear and tear but........ Own an older Rem Mod 700? Quality rifle and engineered to specs of its day. Problem? You can't work the bolt on safe. Issue? You can't unload the gun on safe. They'll change it so you can. Mine was 40 yrs old. If you have one, call Remington. Having said that Ruger is one of the best.

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Sept 28, 2017 16:46:33 GMT -5 daleko said:

Sept 27, 2017 9:06:02 GMT -5 @muttthemaster said:

Ruger repairs guns for free that simply wear out from normal use.  That is NOT their "fault."  If YOU fukc up your gun, of course YOU are responsible!
Now what other mfg gives away FREE PARTS?

Sorry you don't get it.


If you don't like Rugers, don't buy them.   But don't speak when you don't know what you are talking about.

Not wear and tear but........ Own an older Rem Mod 700? Quality rifle and engineered to specs of its day. Problem? You can't work the bolt on safe. Issue? You can't unload the gun on safe. They'll change it so you can. Mine was 40 yrs old. If you have one, call Remington. Having said that Ruger is one of the best.

I think all companies are lawsuit-lawyer wary, and will gladly fix a "dangerous" design flaw for free.
That's a solution to a non-existent problem.   Finger off the trigger when you open the bolt to clear the chamber, and there is ZERO chance of anything bad happening.  If you have an internal box magazine and you worry about working the bolt to unload the rest, remove the bolt, and push the rounds towards the chamber with your thumb as if it were the bolt face, then lift them out one at a time.

Never trust a safety anyway.   They are mechanical devices which can fail.

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My dad had an AD back in the 70's when he was in the office in our house and dropped an extra round in the camber of the Savage Model 99 (300 Savage) with the circular five round magazine fully loaded. When he closed the lever/bolt it sent a bullet through the floor. Never tried that myself and don't know why he tried it in the first place. I guess he didn't want to walk back to the house to get more ammo and only wanted to fire six rounds.

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Sept 28, 2017 20:25:55 GMT -5 @kelliers said:

My dad had an AD back in the 70's when he was in the office in our house and dropped an extra round in the camber of the Savage Model 99 (300 Savage) with the circular five round magazine fully loaded. When he closed the lever/bolt it sent a bullet through the floor. Never tried that myself and don't know why he tried it in the first place. I guess he didn't want to walk back to the house to get more ammo and only wanted to fire six rounds.

So why would a gun discharge from simply chambering a round?
Either the gun was broken or there was some kind of operator error.

That's not a swipe at your dad, just an objective observation.  I know nothing about Savage 99's, but no gun should fire from the normal operation of chambering a round.

Do you know why the AD occurred?

[daleko]

Sept 28, 2017 20:25:55 GMT -5 @kelliers said:

My dad had an AD back in the 70's when he was in the office in our house and dropped an extra round in the camber of the Savage Model 99 (300 Savage) with the circular five round magazine fully loaded. When he closed the lever/bolt it sent a bullet through the floor. Never tried that myself and don't know why he tried it in the first place. I guess he didn't want to walk back to the house to get more ammo and only wanted to fire six rounds.

The Savage manual says this is an accepted way (5+1) to load the firearm. A cpl of issues could be in play. The firearm is not known for AD. Striker may be gummed up. Unlikely as the design would generally not allow that to happen because the firearm gun cocks by the trigger nose catching the striker and drawing it back as the action is closed. If there was a mechanical issue perhaps the striker sear section or trigger nose is worn or someone tried to do a trigger job on the rifle and carved away too much metal, and now the striker falls off as the action reaches the fully closed position on occasion. OR operator error.

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I'm going with operator error on this one. The rifle is in mint condition and has never been buggered with. Probably only has a couple hundred rounds down the pipe max. He probably hit the trigger when he closed the lever.

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Sept 29, 2017 11:49:40 GMT -5 @kelliers said:

I'm going with operator error on this one. The rifle is in mint condition and has never been buggered with. Probably only has a couple hundred rounds down the pipe max. He probably hit the trigger when he closed the lever.

That's good in a way.  That means the rifle is OK, and only that the operator needs to be a bit more careful in the future.

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Sept 30, 2017 7:40:00 GMT -5 @muttthemaster said:

Sept 29, 2017 11:49:40 GMT -5 @kelliers said:

I'm going with operator error on this one. The rifle is in mint condition and has never been buggered with. Probably only has a couple hundred rounds down the pipe max. He probably hit the trigger when he closed the lever.

That's good in a way.  That means the rifle is OK, and only that the operator needs to be a bit more careful in the future.

I'm the operator now. What a sweet, sweet rifle. 1953 Model 99R, the top of the line version with beefier stock, select barrel and sling swivel attachments.
When I was a kid my dad let me fire it. That was a feeling I'll never forget.

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Sept 30, 2017 10:07:58 GMT -5 @kelliers said:

Sept 30, 2017 7:40:00 GMT -5 @muttthemaster said:

That's good in a way.  That means the rifle is OK, and only that the operator needs to be a bit more careful in the future.

I'm the operator now. What a sweet, sweet rifle. 1953 Model 99R, the top of the line version with beefier stock, select barrel and sling swivel attachments.
When I was a kid my dad let me fire it. That was a feeling I'll never forget.

Never shot or even held one, but guns from that era were almost all top quality, even the ones that were rebranded "Ted Williams" or "J.C. Higgins" to sell at Sears.  Penny's Marlins were called "Glenfields" and I can't recall the name of Monkey Ward's guns.
50's and 60's were GREAT times for guns until the GCA of '68 started fukcing everything up.