incredibly wrong decision by ncaa re tosu hoops transfer

[mscott59]

with a rule book the size of encyclopedia britannica, the ncaa makes themselves easy to be ridiculed. i've defended the organization on many occasions here, because even with all its complexities college sports still needs a governing body because too often college go beyond what's right in order to succeed. but a decision yesterday just boggles my mind.

braxton beverly was a recruit of thad matta's at tosu earlier this year. he enrolled early to take some summer classes to get a head start on academics. two weeks after summer classes began, matta got canned. beverly asked to be released from his commit, which ad gene smith quickly approved. he then committed to nc state. the ncaa ruled he must sit out a year for transferring. nc state appealed. tosu supported nc state's position due to the circumstances. matta actually wrote the ncaa in support of beverly. that's the kind of guy matta is. plus it was the right thing to do. the ncaa turned the appeal down. if beverly had waited and enrolled for the fall, he could transfer w/o issue. but by taking classes in the summer to get going toward a degree, he's punished. the article below, juxtaposing this w/the ncaa's decision on unc providing decades worth of free grades for classes w/no requirements... was appropriate.

sports.yahoo.com/ncaa-shows-lack-common-sense-denying-nc-state-freshmans-appeal-161241209.html

[oujour76]

Oct 31, 2017 9:24:24 GMT -5 mscott59 said:

with a rule book the size of encyclopedia britannica, the ncaa makes themselves easy to be ridiculed. i've defended the organization on many occasions here, because even with all its complexities college sports still needs a governing body because too often college go beyond what's right in order to succeed. but a decision yesterday just boggles my mind.

braxton beverly was a recruit of thad matta's at tosu earlier this year. he enrolled early to take some summer classes to get a head start on academics. two weeks after summer classes began, matta got canned. beverly asked to be released from his commit, which ad gene smith quickly approved. he then committed to nc state. the ncaa ruled he must sit out a year for transferring. nc state appealed. tosu supported nc state's position due to the circumstances. matta actually wrote the ncaa in support of beverly. that's the kind of guy matta is. plus it was the right thing to do. the ncaa turned the appeal down. if beverly had waited and enrolled for the fall, he could transfer w/o issue. but by taking classes in the summer to get going toward a degree, he's punished. the article below, juxtaposing this w/the ncaa's decision on unc providing decades worth of free grades for classes w/no requirements... was appropriate.

sports.yahoo.com/ncaa-shows-lack-common-sense-denying-nc-state-freshmans-appeal-161241209.html

Just another bone headed decision by the NCAA. SMH.

[AlaCowboy]

So why have rules if they should be ignored?

[oujour76]

Oct 31, 2017 15:15:19 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

So why have rules if they should be ignored?

It's not a hard and fast rule, there are waivers in place that have been granted in the past by the NCAA. This situation seems to be the perfect place to do the same thing. To me, at least. There's no good reason (that I can see) for taking away a year of eligibility from this kid.

[daleko]

Oct 31, 2017 15:43:01 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Oct 31, 2017 15:15:19 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

So why have rules if they should be ignored?

It's not a hard and fast rule, there are waivers in place that have been granted in the past by the NCAA. This situation seems to be the perfect place to do the same thing. To me, at least. There's no good reason (that I can see) for taking away a year of eligibility from this kid.

Does the athlete still have 4 yrs of eligibility? Is he allowed to practice w the team? Though it might be a decision that could have turned out a bit better, especially in the court of public opinion, perhaps the athlete will benefit. He's a 3* 5'11", 170 PG and certainly not a one and done, if his university objective is going pro. Many Div I athletes don't grad in 4 especially if they are taking on a challenging degree. He gets a yr to physically mature, polish his craft and grow in school. He'll get his degree, hopefully w a job that floats his boat and career obj. At this point a pro career is a reach. 

[oujour76]

Oct 31, 2017 16:28:32 GMT -5 daleko said:

Oct 31, 2017 15:43:01 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

It's not a hard and fast rule, there are waivers in place that have been granted in the past by the NCAA. This situation seems to be the perfect place to do the same thing. To me, at least. There's no good reason (that I can see) for taking away a year of eligibility from this kid.

Does the athlete still have 4 yrs of eligibility? Is he allowed to practice w the team? Though it might be a decision that could have turned out a bit better, especially in the court of public opinion, perhaps the athlete will benefit. He's a 3* 5'11", 170 PG and certainly not a one and done, if his university objective is going pro. Many Div I athletes don't grad in 4 especially if they are taking on a challenging degree. He gets a yr to physically mature, polish his craft and grow in school. He'll get his degree, hopefully w a job that floats his boat and career obj. At this point a pro career is a reach. 

He lost year of eligibility. Most likely yes about practicing with team. Agree with you on the rest, in the long run an education is more likely way to success than a pro career.

[mscott59]

Oct 31, 2017 17:58:21 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Oct 31, 2017 16:28:32 GMT -5 daleko said:

Does the athlete still have 4 yrs of eligibility? Is he allowed to practice w the team? Though it might be a decision that could have turned out a bit better, especially in the court of public opinion, perhaps the athlete will benefit. He's a 3* 5'11", 170 PG and certainly not a one and done, if his university objective is going pro. Many Div I athletes don't grad in 4 especially if they are taking on a challenging degree. He gets a yr to physically mature, polish his craft and grow in school. He'll get his degree, hopefully w a job that floats his boat and career obj. At this point a pro career is a reach. 

He lost year of eligibility. Most likely yes about practicing with team. Agree with you on the rest, in the long run an education is more likely way to success than a pro career.

but it takes away a year that he could be doing something he loves, something where the shelf life is very short. the meaning of this rule is to stop programs from poaching players. that wasn't the case here. tosu not only granted him an immediate release from his commitment but supported this kid going to nc state and supported his appeal. in essence, they told the ncaa 'we were not wronged by this.' yes, education is obviously important... and its obviously that this kid takes it importantly... that's one reason why he enrolled early. that's the irony here or at least one of them. if he doesn't try to get an early start on academics he doesn't have to sit out a year. a year he'll never be able to get back in his life sad.