NASA - new views of Jupiter from Juno probe

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Holy crap!

Probe launched in 2011, and took 5 years to get there. A billion $ results in some pretty cool pictures.





Storms biiger than Earth's diameter.



www.sciencealert.com/nasa-s-1-billion-probe-just-sent-back-mind-meltingly-gorgeous-new-images-of-jupiter

[Buckeye Dale]

DAMN...looks like the scan of the willie licker's brain...

[lz2112]

Jan 9, 2018 21:18:54 GMT -5 @kelliers said:

Holy crap!

Probe launched in 2011, and took 5 years to get there. A billion $ results in some pretty cool pictures.





Storms biiger than Earth's diameter.



www.sciencealert.com/nasa-s-1-billion-probe-just-sent-back-mind-meltingly-gorgeous-new-images-of-jupiter

If only we had stopped global warming, perhaps Jupiter would be peaceful.

news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures.

In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row.

Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of space research at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, says the Mars data is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun.

"The long-term increase in solar irradiance is heating both Earth and Mars," he said.

Solar Cycles

Abdussamatov believes that changes in the sun's heat output can account for almost all the climate changes we see on both planets.

Mars and Earth, for instance, have experienced periodic ice ages throughout their histories.

"Man-made greenhouse warming has made a small contribution to the warming seen on Earth in recent years, but it cannot compete with the increase in solar irradiance," Abdussamatov said.

By studying fluctuations in the warmth of the sun, Abdussamatov believes he can see a pattern that fits with the ups and downs in climate we see on Earth and Mars.

Abdussamatov's work, however, has not been well received by other climate scientists.

"not been well received", IOW, do not pursue avenues that do not adhere to the agenda.

[Walter]

Jan 10, 2018 2:28:37 GMT -5 lz2112 said:

Jan 9, 2018 21:18:54 GMT -5 @kelliers said:

Holy crap!

Probe launched in 2011, and took 5 years to get there. A billion $ results in some pretty cool pictures.





Storms biiger than Earth's diameter.



www.sciencealert.com/nasa-s-1-billion-probe-just-sent-back-mind-meltingly-gorgeous-new-images-of-jupiter

If only we had stopped global warming, perhaps Jupiter would be peaceful.

news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures.

In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row.

Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of space research at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, says the Mars data is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun.

"The long-term increase in solar irradiance is heating both Earth and Mars," he said.

Solar Cycles

Abdussamatov believes that changes in the sun's heat output can account for almost all the climate changes we see on both planets.

Mars and Earth, for instance, have experienced periodic ice ages throughout their histories.

"Man-made greenhouse warming has made a small contribution to the warming seen on Earth in recent years, but it cannot compete with the increase in solar irradiance," Abdussamatov said.

By studying fluctuations in the warmth of the sun, Abdussamatov believes he can see a pattern that fits with the ups and downs in climate we see on Earth and Mars.

Abdussamatov's work, however, has not been well received by other climate scientists.

"not been well received", IOW, do not pursue avenues that do not adhere to the agenda.

It might help if the reasons to be skeptical, also noted in the piece but omitted here, were reviewed.

Amato Evan, a climate scientist at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, added that "the idea just isn't supported by the theory or by the observations."

Planets' Wobbles

The conventional theory is that climate changes on Mars can be explained primarily by small alterations in the planet's orbit and tilt, not by changes in the sun.

"Wobbles in the orbit of Mars are the main cause of its climate change in the current era," Oxford's Wilson explained. (Related: "Don't Blame Sun for Global Warming, Study Says" [September 13, 2006].)

All planets experience a few wobbles as they make their journey around the sun. Earth's wobbles are known as Milankovitch cycles and occur on time scales of between 20,000 and 100,000 years.

These fluctuations change the tilt of Earth's axis and its distance from the sun and are thought to be responsible for the waxing and waning of ice ages on Earth.

Mars and Earth wobble in different ways, and most scientists think it is pure coincidence that both planets are between ice ages right now.

"Mars has no [large] moon, which makes its wobbles much larger, and hence the swings in climate are greater too," Wilson said.

No Greenhouse

[daleko]

Jan 10, 2018 12:20:01 GMT -5 Walter said:

Jan 10, 2018 2:28:37 GMT -5 lz2112 said:

It might help if the reasons to be skeptical, also noted in the piece but omitted here, were reviewed.

Amato Evan, a climate scientist at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, added that "the idea just isn't supported by the theory or by the observations."

Planets' Wobbles

The conventional theory is that climate changes on Mars can be explained primarily by small alterations in the planet's orbit and tilt, not by changes in the sun.

"Wobbles in the orbit of Mars are the main cause of its climate change in the current era," Oxford's Wilson explained. (Related: "Don't Blame Sun for Global Warming, Study Says" [September 13, 2006].)

All planets experience a few wobbles as they make their journey around the sun. Earth's wobbles are known as Milankovitch cycles and occur on time scales of between 20,000 and 100,000 years.

These fluctuations change the tilt of Earth's axis and its distance from the sun and are thought to be responsible for the waxing and waning of ice ages on Earth.

Mars and Earth wobble in different ways, and most scientists think it is pure coincidence that both planets are between ice ages right now.

"Mars has no [large] moon, which makes its wobbles much larger, and hence the swings in climate are greater too," Wilson said.

No Greenhouse

Denier. 

[daleko]

Jan 10, 2018 2:28:37 GMT -5 lz2112 said:

"not been well received", IOW, do not pursue avenues that do not adhere to the agenda.

This a lot like man made religions. A gent in Central Africa is cured after a witch doctor breaks an egg over his chest and blows smoke over his body. Now the ones he cures are remembered while the dozens he doesn't are forgotten or weren't worthy. Meanwhile the WD has a job for life. Same for any form of man made religion.

You see what you want to see and seek what you find comfort in. Two here recently saw GW in what is simply a “Ridiculously Resilient High Pressure Ridge”. You see what you want to see. And advance it whenever you can, using any normal natural event you can. Dismissed as a denier if you suggest otherwise. 

[Walter]

Jan 10, 2018 12:51:26 GMT -5 daleko said:

Jan 10, 2018 2:28:37 GMT -5 lz2112 said:

"not been well received", IOW, do not pursue avenues that do not adhere to the agenda.

This a lot like man made religions. A gent in Central Africa is cured after a witch doctor breaks an egg over his chest and blows smoke over his body. Now the ones he cures are remembered while the dozens he doesn't are forgotten or weren't worthy. Meanwhile the WD has a job for life. Same for any form of man made religion.

You see what you want to see and seek what you find comfort in. Two here recently saw GW in what is simply a “Ridiculously Resilient High Pressure Ridge”. You see what you want to see. And advance it whenever you can, using any normal natural event you can. Dismissed as a denier if you suggest otherwise. 

Equating belief in science to belief in a religion, eh?
Good luck with that.

[daleko]

Jan 10, 2018 18:27:20 GMT -5 Walter said:

Jan 10, 2018 12:51:26 GMT -5 daleko said:

This a lot like man made religions. A gent in Central Africa is cured after a witch doctor breaks an egg over his chest and blows smoke over his body. Now the ones he cures are remembered while the dozens he doesn't are forgotten or weren't worthy. Meanwhile the WD has a job for life. Same for any form of man made religion.

You see what you want to see and seek what you find comfort in. Two here recently saw GW in what is simply a “Ridiculously Resilient High Pressure Ridge”. You see what you want to see. And advance it whenever you can, using any normal natural event you can. Dismissed as a denier if you suggest otherwise. 

Equating belief in science to belief in a religion, eh?
Good luck with that.

Science speaks for science. But false science is religion. You see something because you want to. GW, I get it. But Willie's skiing issue is related to weather. Not everything is related to GW. Not C-Bus, not Denver. And bugs eat trees.