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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 19:24:21 GMT -5
Trump and the Russian mafia have been like one big happy Amerikanski family for the past 30 years. No one else would lend Don "the Con" any rubles.
Huh? It's more proof that Trump likes to talk out of his ass.
BUT, if you still believe that Trump isn't securely in Putin's pocket, I have one word for you-- Helsinki.
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Post by AlaCowboy on Oct 30, 2018 20:48:30 GMT -5
If President Trump (or any sitting president) issues an Executive Order, then it will/must be followed until (ultimately) the Supreme Court says it is unconstitutional. So I run and win POTUS in 2020. I can immediately do an executive order saying guns are illegal and anyone who has one automatically gets life in prison That's all legal? |
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Post by drjensen on Oct 30, 2018 21:09:04 GMT -5
If President Trump (or any sitting president) issues an Executive Order, then it will/must be followed until (ultimately) the Supreme Court says it is unconstitutional. So I run and win POTUS in 2020. I can immediately do an executive order saying guns are illegal and anyone who has one automatically gets life in prison That's all legal? |
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Post by Walter on Oct 30, 2018 22:30:39 GMT -5
The first line of the 14th Amendment states: ‘‘All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.’’
key phrase there.........BTW, the snyder act was never included into it, as that would have required "amendment", And in 1924 that still wasn't gonna happen. What is key about it? Subject to US jurisdiction? Yer in. I have heard one guy all day say it means something else...not unlike that guy who claims the 2nd does not mean what it plainly says it means. Nope. Trump is dead wrong. Even Paul Ryan agrees with me. |
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Post by bamorin on Oct 30, 2018 22:40:06 GMT -5
key phrase there.........BTW, the snyder act was never included into it, as that would have required "amendment", And in 1924 that still wasn't gonna happen. What is key about it? that was the catch phrase that kept that amendment from applying to us. |
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Post by Walter on Oct 30, 2018 22:41:39 GMT -5
that was the catch phrase that kept that amendment from applying to us. You got a mouse in your pocket? "us" has not been an issue for nearly a century. |
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Post by bamorin on Oct 30, 2018 22:44:11 GMT -5
that was the catch phrase that kept that amendment from applying to us. You got a mouse in your pocket? does a big rocket count? The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, also known as the Snyder Act, was proposed by Representative Homer P. Snyder (R) of New York and granted full U.S. citizenship to the indigenous peoples of the United States, called "Indians" in this Act. While the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution defines as citizens any person born in the U.S.A. and subject to its jurisdiction, the amendment has been interpreted that the Tribes are separate Nations to which an Indian owes allegiance and therefore are not under the jurisdiction of the United States. The act was signed into law by President Calvin Coolidge on June 2, 1924. It was enacted partially in recognition of the thousands of Indians who served in the armed forces during World War I. |
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Post by bamorin on Oct 30, 2018 22:46:58 GMT -5
that was the catch phrase that kept that amendment from applying to us. You got a mouse in your pocket? does a big rocket count? The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, also known as the Snyder Act, was proposed by Representative Homer P. Snyder (R) of New York and granted full U.S. citizenship to the indigenous peoples of the United States, called "Indians" in this Act. While the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution defines as citizens any person born in the U.S.A. and subject to its jurisdiction, the amendment has been interpreted that the Tribes are separate Nations to which an Indian owes allegiance and therefore are not under the jurisdiction of the United States. The act was signed into law by President Calvin Coolidge on June 2, 1924. It was enacted partially in recognition of the thousands of Indians who served in the armed forces during World War I. |
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Post by daleko on Oct 30, 2018 22:58:09 GMT -5
key phrase there.........BTW, the snyder act was never included into it, as that would have required "amendment", And in 1924 that still wasn't gonna happen. What is key about it? Subject to US jurisdiction? Yer in. I have heard one guy all day say it means something else...not unlike that guy who claims the 2nd does not mean what it plainly says it means. Nope. Trump is dead wrong. Even Paul Ryan agrees with me. |
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Post by Walter on Oct 30, 2018 23:11:12 GMT -5
You got a mouse in your pocket? does a big rocket count? The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, also known as the Snyder Act, was proposed by Representative Homer P. Snyder (R) of New York and granted full U.S. citizenship to the indigenous peoples of the United States, called "Indians" in this Act. While the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution defines as citizens any person born in the U.S.A. and subject to its jurisdiction, the amendment has been interpreted that the Tribes are separate Nations to which an Indian owes allegiance and therefore are not under the jurisdiction of the United States. The act was signed into law by President Calvin Coolidge on June 2, 1924. It was enacted partially in recognition of the thousands of Indians who served in the armed forces during World War I. What year were you born? |
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Post by Walter on Oct 30, 2018 23:15:27 GMT -5
What is key about it? Subject to US jurisdiction? Yer in. I have heard one guy all day say it means something else...not unlike that guy who claims the 2nd does not mean what it plainly says it means. Nope. Trump is dead wrong. Even Paul Ryan agrees with me. True dat, and I am guessing that includes Donald Trump..or does his "pen and phone" overrule such things? |
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Post by daleko on Oct 30, 2018 23:31:30 GMT -5
Only "guy" that MIGHT an opinion that is important is the SCOTUS. True dat, and I am guessing that includes Donald Trump..or does his "pen and phone" overrule such things? |
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Post by Walter on Oct 31, 2018 0:04:20 GMT -5
True dat, and I am guessing that includes Donald Trump..or does his "pen and phone" overrule such things? IMO, it is no diff than reunderstanding the 2nd for political ends. It says what it says, plain. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 3:39:21 GMT -5
So I run and win POTUS in 2020. I can immediately do an executive order saying guns are illegal and anyone who has one automatically gets life in prison That's all legal? I call BS. It would take months maybe even over a year to even get to the SCOTUS. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 3:40:14 GMT -5
So I run and win POTUS in 2020. I can immediately do an executive order saying guns are illegal and anyone who has one automatically gets life in prison That's all legal? According to Cowboy I'm right. There is no way you can eliminate a constitutional amendment with a EO I'm just not buying it. |
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