American/Hollywood Myths About WWII

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   To this day, almost 74 years after the end of WWII, most Americans still have a limited understanding of what really happened in WWII.

   Few Americans seem to know that the main theater of WWII (in Europe) was the Eastern Front-- where 25 million Russians perished, and where 80% of all Nazi military casualties occurred.

   For every 1 American killed in WWII, 75 Russians, 25 Nazis, and 3 Yugoslavs died-- mainly on the "Eastern" Front of the "Great Patriotic War" between the Red Army and the Nazi Wehrmacht.

    The largest battle in world history-- at Stalingrad-- was the turning point in WWII, where the Red Army finally halted the Nazi blitzkrieg of Operation Barbarossa, and destroyed the entire German 6th Army under General Paulus.  (2 million casualties in the Battle of Stalingrad.)

    The largest tank battle in world history was fought between Germany and the USSR at Kursk-- during the Nazi retreat from Stalingrad and Moscow.

     By the time of the June 1944 D-Day invasion at Normandy, the Soviet Red Army had largely defeated the Nazi Wehrmacht-- pushing the Germans back across the 1,000 mile front of Barbarossa.

     Meanwhile, the Nazis mainly deployed their green forces-- including many teenagers (Hitler Jugend) and older men-- along the 1944 "Western" fronts in northern and southern France (Operation Dragoon-- in the Rhone Valley theater, where my father's 753rd Tank Battalion was deployed.)

[oujour76]

Feb 24, 2019 19:59:55 GMT -5 @drlumbago said:

   To this day, almost 74 years after the end of WWII, most Americans still have a limited understanding of what really happened in WWII.

   Few Americans seem to know that the main theater of WWII (in Europe) was the Eastern Front-- where 25 million Russians perished, and where 80% of all Nazi military casualties occurred.

   For every 1 American killed in WWII, 75 Russians, 25 Nazis, and 3 Yugoslavs died-- mainly on the "Eastern" Front of the "Great Patriotic War" between the Red Army and the Nazi Wehrmacht.

    The largest battle in world history-- at Stalingrad-- was the turning point in WWII, where the Red Army finally halted the Nazi blitzkrieg of Operation Barbarossa, and destroyed the entire German 6th Army under General Paulus.  (2 million casualties in the Battle of Stalingrad.)

    The largest tank battle in world history was fought between Germany and the USSR at Kursk-- during the Nazi retreat from Stalingrad and Moscow.

     By the time of the June 1944 D-Day invasion at Normandy, the Soviet Red Army had largely defeated the Nazi Wehrmacht-- pushing the Germans back across the 1,000 mile front of Barbarossa.

     Meanwhile, the Nazis mainly deployed their green forces-- including many teenagers (Hitler Jugend) and older men-- along the 1944 "Western" fronts in northern and southern France (Operation Dragoon-- in the Rhone Valley theater, where my father's 753rd Tank Battalion was deployed.)

Thanks for sharing.

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You're welcome, Harry.

I posted this in response to Shard-shite's "Decision That Changed the World" thread.

And, on that subject, let me ask you a serious hypothetical question.

Any thoughts about what would have happened if FDR & Churchill had NOT launched the Normandy invasion in June of 1944?

My own hunch is that the Red Army would have occupied Western Europe by the end of 1945.

Once they had crushed the Wehrmacht, what would have stopped them?

[oujour76]

Feb 24, 2019 21:14:40 GMT -5 @drlumbago said:

You're welcome, Harry.

I posted this in response to Shard-shite's "Decision That Changed the World" thread.

And, on that subject, let me ask you a serious hypothetical question.

Any thoughts about what would have happened if FDR & Churchill had NOT launched the Normandy invasion in June of 1944?

My own hunch is that the Red Army would have occupied Western Europe by the end of 1945.

Once they had crushed the Wehrmacht, what would have stopped them?

Might be a good discussion, unfortunately, not one I can have with you. I've tried to in the past, but when your views are challenged, you take things straight to the gutter.  I'm tired of that shit. 

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Feb 25, 2019 10:19:38 GMT -5 oujour76 said:

Feb 24, 2019 21:14:40 GMT -5 @drlumbago said:

You're welcome, Harry.

I posted this in response to Shard-shite's "Decision That Changed the World" thread.

And, on that subject, let me ask you a serious hypothetical question.

Any thoughts about what would have happened if FDR & Churchill had NOT launched the Normandy invasion in June of 1944?

My own hunch is that the Red Army would have occupied Western Europe by the end of 1945.

Once they had crushed the Wehrmacht, what would have stopped them?

Might be a good discussion, unfortunately, not one I can have with you. I've tried to in the past, but when your views are challenged, you take things straight to the gutter.  I'm tired of that shit. 

Bunk.  Our lengthy debates about many things  -- like NSAM 263, NSAM 273, and Vietnam -- went on for pages, until you refused to answer the key questions.

Likewise, our debates about Lee Oswald's work for the CIA, or Antarctic ice levels, etc.

As for our many disagreements about Russia-gate, the suppressed facts are slowly becoming all too clear.