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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 18:00:34 GMT -5
What many people-- including Walter and Harry-- still don't seem to realize is that the fraudulent NIST Report about the collapse of the WTC towers (and WTC7) on 9/11 does NOT explain the observed explosive demolitions that caused these three steel skyscrapers to abruptly collapse in symmetrical free falls into their own footprints.
The ludicrous NIST computer models only purport to explain the initial damage to the upper floors of the buildings-- claiming without any supporting evidence that sudden, complete, symmetrical collapse necessarily resulted from the initial focal damage.
Among other problems, the NIST Cover Up analysis doesn't even attempt to explain the obvious, serial explosive pulverization of concrete, and complete free fall collapses of these entire, massive steel structures-- which were built to specifically survive the impact of plane crashes.
This excellent debunking of the NIST Report should put a final end to Walter and Harry's repeated nonsense about the NIST offering a scientifically valid explanation of the false Bush-Cheney-Zelikow 9/11 narrative that was used to launch the PNAC bombing of Afghanistan in 2001.
The last time I posted this for Walter, he deleted it...
Walter's modus operandi is to dodge the international scientific and scholarly research on 9/11, while focusing on the ubiquitous PNAC/CIA/Mossad funded 9/11 propaganda at Metabunk, Popular Mechanics, and other sites (which almost always comes up at the top of 9/11 Google searches.)
Building a Better Mirage
NIST's 3-Year $20,000,000 Cover-Up of the Crime of the Century
Introduction
On June 23, 2005 the National Institute for Standards and Technology (NIST) published the draft of its 'Final Report of the National Construction Safety Team on the Collapses of the World Trade Center Towers' (document NISTNCSTAR1Draft.pdf), and in September it released its Final Report (document NISTNCSTAR1CollapseofTowers.pdf). This Report and a separate one on the case of WTC 7 represent the culmination of NIST's three-year investigation of the collapses of the three World Trade Center skyscrapers, funded with an initial budget of $16 million and subsequent appropriations from taxpayers' money.
NIST's investigation is often cited as proving the official theory that the plane crashes and fires caused the collapses. Yet the Report does not explain why or how the buildings totally collapsed, despite the lack of a single historical precedent for a steel-framed skyscraper totally collapsing for any reason other than controlled demolition. And, in contrast to the Report's voluminous detail about the plane crashes, fires, and loss of life, it makes no attempt to characterize or explain the demolition-like features of the collapses -- such as their explosiveness, pulverization, verticality and nearly free-fall rapidity -- except for two sentences in a half-page section added to the Final Report to address criticisms of the Draft.
NIST simply avoids these troublesome issues by placing them outside the scope of its investigation, claiming that "global collapse" was "inevitable" after the "initiation of collapse."
This series of photographs show the North Tower at about 6, 8, and 10 seconds into its collapse. Neither NIST's Final Report, nor any of its other documents, attempts to explain the explosiveness, systematic pulverization, speed, or straight-down symmetry of the collapses. NIST shows no interest in explaining the catastrophic total collapses, blithely asserting that "global collapse" was "inevitable" following "initiation."
NIST's Theory
Remaining strictly within the confines of the officially prescribed theory, NIST crafts an explanation for the "initiation of the collapse of each Tower" that avoids faulting the Towers' construction: The aircraft impacts dislodged insulation from the steel, and the exposed steel succumbed to the fires. Sagging trusses pulled in portions of the perimeter walls, causing a rapid spread of "column instability" in perimeter columns, which in turned strained the fire-weakened core columns. The "tremendous energy" of the floors above the collapse zone led to "global collapse."
Challenges
In this critique I challenge NIST's explanation on two levels:
Its theory about the effects of crash and fire damage is deeply flawed.
Its presumption that "collapse initiation" will automatically lead to "global collapse" is unfounded.
Whereas the Report attempts to pre-empt challenges of the first type with the voluminous detail of its observations and models, it does not even address challenges of the second type. Yet it must have been aware of such challenges. NIST's lead investigator Shyam Sunder is extensively quoted in the Popular Mechanics article attacking "conspiracy theories." Respected theologian David Ray Griffin detailed evidence of controlled demolition in an April 18, 2005 address to the University of Wisconsin at Madison, which was aired twice on C-SPAN2's BookTV. Griffin's remarks included:
The buildings collapsed straight down, and at virtually free-fall speed, as in controlled demolitions, and then the rubble smoldered for months.
Many people in the buildings said that they heard or felt explosions.
Virtually all the concrete of these enormous structures was pulverized into very fine dust.
Much of this dust, along with pieces of steel and aluminum, was blown out horizontally several hundred feet.
Most of the steel beams and columns came down in sections about 30 feet long, conveniently ready to be loaded on trucks.
By truncating its investigation at "collapse initiation" NIST avoids having to consider and disclose the subsequent evidence of controlled demolition.
Contents
Introduction
NIST's Theory
Challenges
Contents
Passing Off "Global Collapse"
Circumscribing the Investigation
Hiding Engineering History
Selling Progressive Collapse
NIST's Amazing Column Failure Theory
A Mountain of Distracting Details
Mixing Observation and Speculation
Cinematic Emphasis
Imagined Heat
Ignored Conduction?
Bowed Columns, or Refracted Light?
NIST's "Global Analysis"
NIST's Vacuous Response to its Critics
The Pile-Driver Theory, Again
Perfunctory Explanations of Two Features
Playing the Missiles and Basement Bombs Straw Men
Correcting the ASCE's Candor
The ASCE's Equivocation
The ASCE's Disclosures of Steel Sulfidation
Omissions and Distortions
The Privatization of the World Trade Center
Chief Palmer's Radio Call
Excuses, Excuses
Fudging the Models
Altering Flight 175's Path
Shrinking the Core Columns
NIST's Opaque Investigation
Conclusion
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Post by lz2112 on Apr 9, 2019 18:48:20 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 20:15:03 GMT -5
LZ,
I can't fix your stupidity, but I'll say it again.
All theories about 9/11 are "conspiracy theories," including the false Bush-Cheney-Zelikow 9/11 conspiracy theory that the World Trade Center was explosively demolished on 9/11 by flying Saudi goatherds conspiring with a CIA-trained Mujaheddin cave-dweller in Afghanistan named Bin Laden.
See if you can figure that one out.
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Post by Walter on Apr 9, 2019 21:30:40 GMT -5
LZ,
I can't fix your stupidity, but I'll say it again.
All theories about 9/11 are "conspiracy theories," including the false Bush-Cheney-Zelikow 9/11 conspiracy theory that the World Trade Center was explosively demolished on 9/11 by flying Saudi goatherds conspiring with a CIA-trained Mujaheddin cave-dweller in Afghanistan named Bin Laden.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 21:59:55 GMT -5
WALTER, HARRY, AND LZ ARE KOOKY 9/11 CONSPIRACY THEORISTS !!
They truly believe that 19 CIA-trained Muslim goatherds CONSPIRED with CIA-trained Mujaheddin "freedom fighter" Osama Bin Laden to hijack Boeing jetliners with box cutters and fly them into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on 9/11!! How weird is that??
Unfortunately, LZ's kooky 9/11 conspiracy theory makes no sense, based on the 9/11 facts.
1) Many of these 19 alleged hijackers (whose names were conveniently found in a rental car at Logan Airport on 9/11) were known to be alive after 9/11. How did they survive those plane crashes?
2) None of them were photographed boarding the alleged planes on 9/11.
3) None of them were listed on any flight manifests.
4) The alleged phone calls from hijacked airplanes describing Muslims with box cutters never happened, according to the FBI.
5) Robert Mueller and the FBI never found a "shred of evidence" linking Osama Bin Laden to 9/11-- as Dick Cheney admitted to the 9/11 Commission.
6) The WTC buildings were demolished on 9/11 by concrete-pulverizing, steel-liquefying thermite explosives, pre-planted in the buildings prior to 9/11.
7) People affiliated with CIA Executive Director Alvin Krongard made millions shorting United and American Airlines stock just prior to 9/11.
8) Benjamin Netanyahu's close friend Larry Silverstein made $4.5 billion on 9/11-- on a WTC lease he was awarded six weeks before 9/11.
9) Mossad front company Zim Shipping moved out of their WTC offices one week before 9/11-- despite having years remaining on their lease.
10) The Israeli instant messaging service Odigo sent out a notice two hours before the 9/11 attacks advising Israelis to avoid the World Trade Center.
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Post by Walter on Apr 9, 2019 22:24:36 GMT -5
Repeating the same bullshit over and over does not enhance its veracity.
Respond to my Qs or go away.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2019 18:27:56 GMT -5
REALITY VS. THE BOGUS NIST COMPUTER "SIMULATION" OF THE WTC7 DEMOLITION ON 9/11
(for discerning American citizens)
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Post by Buckeye Dale on May 6, 2019 20:59:15 GMT -5
Pseudo-Science from the Pseudo-person with the Pseudo-brain.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 23:53:53 GMT -5
Pseudo-Science from the Pseudo-person with the Pseudo-brain. Shard-shite, The NIST Report IS pseudo-science, as is Michael Chertoff's cousin's Popular Mechanics 9/11 article that he was paid to write for the PNAC 9/11 perpetrators. But only a scientist can discern that, which rules out your dumb ass. |
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Post by Walter on May 7, 2019 7:06:00 GMT -5
Pseudo-Science from the Pseudo-person with the Pseudo-brain. Shard-shite, The NIST Report IS pseudo-science, as is Michael Chertoff's cousin's Popular Mechanics 9/11 article that he was paid to write for the PNAC 9/11 perpetrators. But only a scientist can discern that, which rules out your dumb ass. You have never read the NIST report. How would you know anything about it? |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 12:29:03 GMT -5
Shard-shite, The NIST Report IS pseudo-science, as is Michael Chertoff's cousin's Popular Mechanics 9/11 article that he was paid to write for the PNAC 9/11 perpetrators. But only a scientist can discern that, which rules out your dumb ass. You have never read the NIST report. How would you know anything about it?
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Post by Walter on May 7, 2019 12:46:57 GMT -5
You have never read the NIST report. How would you know anything about it? Uh... speaking of guys who repeat bullshit over and over... Have you read it? Yes or no? |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 14:38:21 GMT -5
Uh... speaking of guys who repeat bullshit over and over... Have you read it? Yes or no?
I've read the essential, erroneous excerpts from that pile of PNAC propaganda. *
Have you studied the historical origins of the long-delayed, non-forensic, PNAC/NIST cover up?
*Building a Better Mirage
NIST's 3-Year $20,000,000 Cover-Up of the Crime of the Century
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Post by Walter on May 7, 2019 18:26:28 GMT -5
Have you read it? Yes or no? I've read the essential, erroneous excerpts from that pile of PNAC propaganda. * Have you studied the historical origins of the long-delayed, non-forensic, PNAC/NIST cover up?
*Building a Better Mirage
NIST's 3-Year $20,000,000 Cover-Up of the Crime of the Century Which parts of NIST were erroneous? Cite examples. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 21:01:18 GMT -5
I've read the essential, erroneous excerpts from that pile of PNAC propaganda. * Have you studied the historical origins of the long-delayed, non-forensic, PNAC/NIST cover up?
*Building a Better Mirage
NIST's 3-Year $20,000,000 Cover-Up of the Crime of the Century Which parts of NIST were erroneous? Cite examples. I already have-- about 20 times. How did the NIST pretend to explain the observed symmetrical free fall collapse of WTC7? (Hint: They didn't.) Have you read Hoffman's detailed debunking of the NIST scam-- posted above on this thread? Yes or no? |
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