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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 9:46:25 GMT -5
Practice drawing your concealed gun while seated. The good guy in Texas stood up to draw his gun, which immediately got the shooter's attention. In THAT case, it might not have mattered, but any tactical advantage you can gain while appearing to be compliant certainly can't hurt in most situations.
Just a suggestion ...............
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Post by roxalot on Jan 3, 2020 21:31:52 GMT -5
Practice drawing your concealed gun while seated. The good guy in Texas stood up to draw his gun, which immediately got the shooter's attention. In THAT case, it might not have mattered, but any tactical advantage you can gain while appearing to be compliant certainly can't hurt in most situations.
Just a suggestion ...............
Great advice. Going to practice some more on the 'single head shot ' drill tomorrow. The trick, if there is one, is to be as consistent as possible. No mistakes with draw, shot placement and time allowed. Probably use 30 or 40 rounds on that one drill alone. Then 50 or so on the 'double tap' drill. Maybe some trap after that. Perfect practice makes perfect. Throw in some bag work ( heavy, speed and double end )with a flag football game later with some of my son's buddies and it could turn out to be a 'rough' Saturday. Move over Arron Rodgers,there's a new Sheriff in town.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 23:32:42 GMT -5
Practice drawing your concealed gun while seated. The good guy in Texas stood up to draw his gun, which immediately got the shooter's attention. In THAT case, it might not have mattered, but any tactical advantage you can gain while appearing to be compliant certainly can't hurt in most situations.
Just a suggestion ...............
Great advice. Going to practice some more on the 'single head shot ' drill tomorrow. The trick, if there is one, is to be as consistent as possible. No mistakes with draw, shot placement and time allowed. Probably use 30 or 40 rounds on that one drill alone. Then 50 or so on the 'double tap' drill. Maybe some trap after that. Perfect practice makes perfect. Throw in some bag work ( heavy, speed and double end )with a flag football game later with some of my son's buddies and it could turn out to be a 'rough' Saturday. Move over Arron Rodgers,there's a new Sheriff in town. Personally, I don't go for head shots with a handgun unless I do it just for showoff purposes (which can backfire  ).
My practice routine is pretty incredible. I have none.
I just go shoot when I want to, and shoot any way that comes to mind.
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Post by roxalot on Jan 4, 2020 9:09:30 GMT -5
Great advice. Going to practice some more on the 'single head shot ' drill tomorrow. The trick, if there is one, is to be as consistent as possible. No mistakes with draw, shot placement and time allowed. Probably use 30 or 40 rounds on that one drill alone. Then 50 or so on the 'double tap' drill. Maybe some trap after that. Perfect practice makes perfect. Throw in some bag work ( heavy, speed and double end )with a flag football game later with some of my son's buddies and it could turn out to be a 'rough' Saturday. Move over Arron Rodgers,there's a new Sheriff in town. Personally, I don't go for head shots with a handgun unless I do it just for showoff purposes (which can backfire ).
My practice routine is pretty incredible. I have none.
I just go shoot when I want to, and shoot any way that comes to mind.
They're called 'drills' for a reason. We practice them two or three times a month on average. Time ( and weather ) permitting. We do them because we are ccp holders and we do carry. Most of the time. It's all about speed and being efficient. The head shot is a simple drill. We place the 'bad guy' targets at 4 or 5 yds. From the draw, place a shot as close to the center of the head and do it in less than 3 seconds. If this takes 3 seconds, then it's a fail. I've gotten to the point where I only fail 2 or 3 times. Fail meaning I didn't make the shot in the allowed time. Time allowed is a factor in all of our drills. I like to think of it as 'taking my time but doing it very quickly' while letting 'instinct' take over. Shot placement is critical and being able to put shots on target as fast as possible ( as you know ) can mean the difference between life or death. We always practice with what we carry. Anyway, that's just how we spend our range time, different strokes for different folks. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 12:49:08 GMT -5
Personally, I don't go for head shots with a handgun unless I do it just for showoff purposes (which can backfire ).
My practice routine is pretty incredible. I have none.
I just go shoot when I want to, and shoot any way that comes to mind.
They're called 'drills' for a reason. We practice them two or three times a month on average. Time ( and weather ) permitting. We do them because we are ccp holders and we do carry. Most of the time. It's all about speed and being efficient. The head shot is a simple drill. We place the 'bad guy' targets at 4 or 5 yds. From the draw, place a shot as close to the center of the head and do it in less than 3 seconds. If this takes 3 seconds, then it's a fail. I've gotten to the point where I only fail 2 or 3 times. Fail meaning I didn't make the shot in the allowed time. Time allowed is a factor in all of our drills. I like to think of it as 'taking my time but doing it very quickly' while letting 'instinct' take over. Shot placement is critical and being able to put shots on target as fast as possible ( as you know ) can mean the difference between life or death. We always practice with what we carry. Anyway, that's just how we spend our range time, different strokes for different folks. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 14:32:00 GMT -5
They're called 'drills' for a reason. We practice them two or three times a month on average. Time ( and weather ) permitting. We do them because we are ccp holders and we do carry. Most of the time. It's all about speed and being efficient. The head shot is a simple drill. We place the 'bad guy' targets at 4 or 5 yds. From the draw, place a shot as close to the center of the head and do it in less than 3 seconds. If this takes 3 seconds, then it's a fail. I've gotten to the point where I only fail 2 or 3 times. Fail meaning I didn't make the shot in the allowed time. Time allowed is a factor in all of our drills. I like to think of it as 'taking my time but doing it very quickly' while letting 'instinct' take over. Shot placement is critical and being able to put shots on target as fast as possible ( as you know ) can mean the difference between life or death. We always practice with what we carry. Anyway, that's just how we spend our range time, different strokes for different folks. You could probably reduce your time with one of the red dot equipped pistols. I'm actually thinking of getting a G19 MOS and a Trijicon RMR Type 2. I have a Burris Fastfire 3 that I'm not using. I just like the Trijicon more for a variety of reasons. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 14:54:20 GMT -5
You could probably reduce your time with one of the red dot equipped pistols. I'm actually thinking of getting a G19 MOS and a Trijicon RMR Type 2. I have a Burris Fastfire 3 that I'm not using. I just like the Trijicon more for a variety of reasons. Wow, you sure have a lot of money to waste. I will never trust any optic that is mounted directly to the slide of a semiauto pistol.
Call me old fashioned, stupid, or whatever, but I believe that high speed back and forth stress will render it useless over time. Fixed iron sights use no batteries that fail, and they hardly ever go out of alignment in normal use.
I have no problems with GI 1911 sights, or even the frame groove rear sights of my S&W Model 64 and Uberti Colt SAA replica. But I also admit I'm not practicing to shoot someone in the left earlobe at 25 yards. Hitting them in the head with the old cowboy .45 Colt at 20 yards is good enough. 20 is the limit at my indoor range, so I'm kinda handicapped there.
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Post by roxalot on Jan 5, 2020 10:00:07 GMT -5
You could probably reduce your time with one of the red dot equipped pistols. I'm actually thinking of getting a G19 MOS and a Trijicon RMR Type 2. I have a Burris Fastfire 3 that I'm not using. I just like the Trijicon more for a variety of reasons. That WOULD be another advantage to getting shots on target quicker, especially if one is firing from an awkward position. Would probably go with a green laser, as that would be better seen in daylight. IT would have to be built in though. I'm in agreement with Bryan on that. Don't want any thing that's mounted on the side, or under, the pistol. We do our drills from a completely concealed position. Just like we carry. Snags are bad. Fast and smooth is good. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 10:48:56 GMT -5
You could probably reduce your time with one of the red dot equipped pistols. I'm actually thinking of getting a G19 MOS and a Trijicon RMR Type 2. I have a Burris Fastfire 3 that I'm not using. I just like the Trijicon more for a variety of reasons. That WOULD be another advantage to getting shots on target quicker, especially if one is firing from an awkward position. Would probably go with a green laser, as that would be better seen in daylight. IT would have to be built in though. I'm in agreement with Bryan on that. Don't want any thing that's mounted on the side, or under, the pistol. We do our drills from a completely concealed position. Just like we carry. Snags are bad. Fast and smooth is good. The red dot is NOT on the actual target. You only see the dot in the optic. Lasers are a whole different thing, such as the Crimson Trace brand that is used in conjunction with iron sights. Or plastic sights in the case of MOST Glocks. My G20SF has stock iron sights but I specifically wanted that version, not the one that comes with the usual plastic sights. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 15:16:00 GMT -5
That WOULD be another advantage to getting shots on target quicker, especially if one is firing from an awkward position. Would probably go with a green laser, as that would be better seen in daylight. IT would have to be built in though. I'm in agreement with Bryan on that. Don't want any thing that's mounted on the side, or under, the pistol. We do our drills from a completely concealed position. Just like we carry. Snags are bad. Fast and smooth is good. The red dot is NOT on the actual target. You only see the dot in the optic. Lasers are a whole different thing, such as the Crimson Trace brand that is used in conjunction with iron sights. Or plastic sights in the case of MOST Glocks. My G20SF has stock iron sights but I specifically wanted that version, not the one that comes with the usual plastic sights. The plastic sights on mine have held up well for 6 years. Not a single mark on them. Of course, I don't use my gun's slide as a hammer, either. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I read that some people complain about the plastic sights being worn down from holster wear. There's an easy fix for that. Don't use a holster that encloses the sights. Not to mention if you are using a leather holster like you should, it would probably take a million drawing cycles to actually wear down the sight.
I'll carry a plastic gun, but I draw the line at an ugly plastic holster. NEVER, for any of my guns. My guns deserve better.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 17:07:56 GMT -5
The red dot is NOT on the actual target. You only see the dot in the optic. Lasers are a whole different thing, such as the Crimson Trace brand that is used in conjunction with iron sights. Or plastic sights in the case of MOST Glocks. My G20SF has stock iron sights but I specifically wanted that version, not the one that comes with the usual plastic sights. The plastic sights on mine have held up well for 6 years. Not a single mark on them. Of course, I don't use my gun's slide as a hammer, either. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I read that some people complain about the plastic sights being worn down from holster wear. There's an easy fix for that. Don't use a holster that encloses the sights. Not to mention if you are using a leather holster like you should, it would probably take a million drawing cycles to actually wear down the sight.
I'll carry a plastic gun, but I draw the line at an ugly plastic holster. NEVER, for any of my guns. My guns deserve better.
Oh so you DO own Mattel plastic toys guns... Wonders never cease.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 18:24:27 GMT -5
The plastic sights on mine have held up well for 6 years. Not a single mark on them. Of course, I don't use my gun's slide as a hammer, either. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I read that some people complain about the plastic sights being worn down from holster wear. There's an easy fix for that. Don't use a holster that encloses the sights. Not to mention if you are using a leather holster like you should, it would probably take a million drawing cycles to actually wear down the sight.
I'll carry a plastic gun, but I draw the line at an ugly plastic holster. NEVER, for any of my guns. My guns deserve better.
Oh so you DO own Mattel plastic toys guns... Wonders never cease. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 18:50:52 GMT -5
Oh so you DO own Mattel plastic toys guns... Wonders never cease. AND a plastic Mattel Mini-14 toy gun, doofus. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 19:11:17 GMT -5
It is well known that I own A (as in one, singular, lonely) plastic gun --- my G30SF. AND a plastic Mattel Mini-14 toy gun, doofus.
The GUN is all steel. It is fitted with an optional synthetic stock. You can get good old-fashioned wood as well. One day I might retrofit mine. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 19:19:14 GMT -5
AND a plastic Mattel Mini-14 toy gun, doofus.
The GUN is all steel. It is fitted with an optional synthetic stock. You can get good old-fashioned wood as well. One day I might retrofit mine.. It came stock with plastic parts. The Tactical Mini-14 is not optionally fitted with plastic you ignorant redneck dumbass. It comes that way. "Mattel plastic toy gun" Mini-14. BOOM. |
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