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Post by canefan on Apr 9, 2020 17:20:50 GMT -5
I absolutely love the SR71 and I had never heard this story before.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 22:59:38 GMT -5
How about a low pass with burners?
As "advanced" as the jet was, its cockpit was still loaded with steam gauges. No digital displays or any of that stuff.
And they leaked fuel when on the ground. There had to be gaps between the fuel tank panels for metal expansion when the thing heated up at high speed. They didn't take off with full tanks anyway, because of the added weight stressing the airframe on takeoff.
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Post by canefan on Apr 9, 2020 23:13:30 GMT -5
How about a low pass with burners?
As "advanced" as the jet was, its cockpit was still loaded with steam gauges. No digital displays or any of that stuff.
And they leaked fuel when on the ground. There had to be gaps between the fuel tank panels for metal expansion when the thing heated up at high speed. They didn't take off with full tanks anyway, because of the added weight stressing the airframe on takeoff.
A freaking beast of a ship. That bird was smoking when he lit up the tail feathers. I saw the Nine P Nine, the B17 that crashed last year, do a fly by down the runway maybe 100 or so feet off the pavement do a 90 degree rotation. Just amazing to see what these rd big birds can do. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2020 13:59:58 GMT -5
How about a low pass with burners?
As "advanced" as the jet was, its cockpit was still loaded with steam gauges. No digital displays or any of that stuff.
And they leaked fuel when on the ground. There had to be gaps between the fuel tank panels for metal expansion when the thing heated up at high speed. They didn't take off with full tanks anyway, because of the added weight stressing the airframe on takeoff.
A freaking beast of a ship. That bird was smoking when he lit up the tail feathers. I saw the Nine P Nine, the B17 that crashed last year, do a fly by down the runway maybe 100 or so feet off the pavement do a 90 degree rotation. Just amazing to see what these rd big birds can do. My older brother flew the EC-47 in Vietnam and KC-135 tankers later on in the AF. He was an IP in both of them, and in several other civilian aircraft as well.
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Post by canefan on Apr 10, 2020 14:28:31 GMT -5
A freaking beast of a ship. That bird was smoking when he lit up the tail feathers. I saw the Nine P Nine, the B17 that crashed last year, do a fly by down the runway maybe 100 or so feet off the pavement do a 90 degree rotation. Just amazing to see what these rd big birds can do. My older brother flew the EC-47 in Vietnam and KC-135 tankers later on in the AF. He was an IP in both of them, and in several other civilian aircraft as well. My favorite warbird is the B17. Probably because my favorite uncle was a B17 pilot in WW2. He got hit over Germany but managed to limp his ship into Sweden and belly land. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2020 14:39:08 GMT -5
My older brother flew the EC-47 in Vietnam and KC-135 tankers later on in the AF. He was an IP in both of them, and in several other civilian aircraft as well. My favorite warbird is the B17. Probably because my favorite uncle was a B17 pilot in WW2. He got hit over Germany but managed to limp his ship into Sweden and belly land. The B-17 was a great airplane. I got to see the Memphis Belle in Memphis many years ago, and the city had let it go to shit.
One of my cousins was a lower ball turret gunner in a B-24. That thing was a deathtrap, if it jammed in the wrong position. And if it jammed in a position that blocked the door and was in the extended position, the gunner would be crushed when the thing landed. My favorite WWII airplane is the one I happen to be focused on at any one time.
P-47, P-51, P-38, B-25, ANJ/AT6 (advanced trainer for all pilots), SBD, F4F/FM2, TBD/TBM, F6F, PBY --- they are ALL cool.
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Post by daleko on Apr 10, 2020 15:28:37 GMT -5
My older brother flew the EC-47 in Vietnam and KC-135 tankers later on in the AF. He was an IP in both of them, and in several other civilian aircraft as well. My favorite warbird is the B17. Probably because my favorite uncle was a B17 pilot in WW2. He got hit over Germany but managed to limp his ship into Sweden and belly land. |
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Post by canefan on Apr 10, 2020 15:51:36 GMT -5
My favorite warbird is the B17. Probably because my favorite uncle was a B17 pilot in WW2. He got hit over Germany but managed to limp his ship into Sweden and belly land. The B-17 was a great airplane. I got to see the Memphis Belle in Memphis many years ago, and the city had let it go to shit.
One of my cousins was a lower ball turret gunner in a B-24. That thing was a deathtrap, if it jammed in the wrong position. And if it jammed in a position that blocked the door and was in the extended position, the gunner would be crushed when the thing landed. My favorite WWII airplane is the one I happen to be focused on at any one time.
P-47, P-51, P-38, B-25, ANJ/AT6 (advanced trainer for all pilots), SBD, F4F/FM2, TBD/TBM, F6F, PBY --- they are ALL cool.
Outside of the Flying Fortress my next favorite is the F4U. My dad was in the USMC the entire duration and his job was propeller specialist. The Marines of course flew the F4U. Another storied airplane, not at least in some part thanks to Pappy Boyington. My dad was about 30 when he enlisted and he carried the same Pappy nickname. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2020 15:56:12 GMT -5
The B-17 was a great airplane. I got to see the Memphis Belle in Memphis many years ago, and the city had let it go to shit.
One of my cousins was a lower ball turret gunner in a B-24. That thing was a deathtrap, if it jammed in the wrong position. And if it jammed in a position that blocked the door and was in the extended position, the gunner would be crushed when the thing landed. My favorite WWII airplane is the one I happen to be focused on at any one time.
P-47, P-51, P-38, B-25, ANJ/AT6 (advanced trainer for all pilots), SBD, F4F/FM2, TBD/TBM, F6F, PBY --- they are ALL cool.
Outside of the Flying Fortress my next favorite is the F4U. My dad was in the USMC the entire duration and his job was propeller specialist. The Marines of course flew the F4U. Another storied airplane, not at least in some part thanks to Pappy Boyington. My dad was about 30 when he enlisted and he carried the same Pappy nickname. How in hell did I overlook the Corsair? Yeah that was another great one, too. The gullwing design was because of the huge propeller chosen for the plane. If it had been a straight midwing design, the landing gear would have had to be extraordinarily long, and possibly too weak to handle the controlled crash commonly known as a carrier landing.
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Post by canefan on Apr 10, 2020 15:58:58 GMT -5
My favorite warbird is the B17. Probably because my favorite uncle was a B17 pilot in WW2. He got hit over Germany but managed to limp his ship into Sweden and belly land. The B-17 was a great airplane. I got to see the Memphis Belle in Memphis many years ago, and the city had let it go to shit.
One of my cousins was a lower ball turret gunner in a B-24. That thing was a deathtrap, if it jammed in the wrong position. And if it jammed in a position that blocked the door and was in the extended position, the gunner would be crushed when the thing landed. My favorite WWII airplane is the one I happen to be focused on at any one time.
P-47, P-51, P-38, B-25, ANJ/AT6 (advanced trainer for all pilots), SBD, F4F/FM2, TBD/TBM, F6F, PBY --- they are ALL cool.
And yes, the guys who manned the lower turrent as well as the tail gunner had to be a special breed. I had a buddy in college who was a nose gunner on a chopper in Vietnam. Long story short, he had a new green pilot who decided to double back to look at something rather than just letting him blast it. Next thing he saw was a trail coming up at them. They were about 50 feet above the treetops and he released his belts and dove out. Chopper exploded above him and he crashed through the limbs of the trees wrecking his knee. But he survived. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2020 16:10:31 GMT -5
The B-17 was a great airplane. I got to see the Memphis Belle in Memphis many years ago, and the city had let it go to shit.
One of my cousins was a lower ball turret gunner in a B-24. That thing was a deathtrap, if it jammed in the wrong position. And if it jammed in a position that blocked the door and was in the extended position, the gunner would be crushed when the thing landed. My favorite WWII airplane is the one I happen to be focused on at any one time.
P-47, P-51, P-38, B-25, ANJ/AT6 (advanced trainer for all pilots), SBD, F4F/FM2, TBD/TBM, F6F, PBY --- they are ALL cool.
And yes, the guys who manned the lower turrent as well as the tail gunner had to be a special breed. I had a buddy in college who was a nose gunner on a chopper in Vietnam. Long story short, he had a new green pilot who decided to double back to look at something rather than just letting him blast it. Next thing he saw was a trail coming up at them. They were about 50 feet above the treetops and he released his belts and dove out. Chopper exploded above him and he crashed through the limbs of the trees wrecking his knee. But he survived. I would never have taken one of those turret gunner jobs. A lot of people have never heard of Loyce Deen. This is so sad.
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Post by gatr55555 on Apr 20, 2020 15:08:35 GMT -5
I absolutely love the SR71 and I had never heard this story before. Great story. I always liked the SR71 air speed story. Makes me laugh every time. lol |
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