Who Are the Many Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth?

[DrSchadenfreude]

     Unlike numerous modern, kooky "conspiracy theories," the 9/11 Truth movement is comprised chiefly of highly-educated scientists and academicians who have realized during the past 19 years that the Bush-Cheney/PNAC narrative about what happened on 9/11 is fraudulent.

     Who are the scientists and scholars of the 9/11 Truth movement?  And why has the mainstream U.S. media aggressively censored their definitive research debunking the official government 9/11 narrative, while smearing them as "conspiracy theorists?"

     Remember that, as the Swiss historian Daniele Ganser first pointed out, "All theories about 9/11 are CONSPIRACY THEORIES"-- including the official Bush-Cheney-Zelikow narrative about Muslim hijackers working for long-time CIA asset Osama Bin Laden.

     Dick Cheney, Robert Mueller, and the FBI, ultimately, admitted that they "never found a scrap of evidence linking Osama Bin Laden to 9/11."

     The televised videos and tapes claiming that Bin Laden took credit for 9/11 are proven forgeries.  And Bin Laden's public disavowals of involvement in 9/11 were blacked out of the U.S. media.

     
1)  Cord Meyer, the Director of the CIA's domestic propaganda division-- called, "Operation Mockingbird"--  popularized the propaganda term, "conspiracy theory" in the 1960s to discredit the research of investigators-- including Sylvia Meagher, Mark Lane, and New Orleans DA Jim Garrison-- who had begun to debunk the obviously fraudulent Warren Commission Report.

2)  "Conspiracy theories" are not monolithic.  Some are truly kooky and ridiculous, (QAnon, Pizzagate, etc.) and others are firmly based on accurate scientific, forensic, and historical evidence (e.g., JFK's murder by the CIA and Joint Chiefs, the PNAC 9/11 op.)   Government propagandists involved in military ops, like the JFK assassination and 9/11, naturally want the public to believe that all "conspiracy theories" are equally absurd.  They go out of their way to lump accurate theories with kooky theories.

3)  There are good reasons why our "military-industrial complex" (including their mainstream media contractors) have been heavily invested in discrediting the truth about JFK's murder and 9/11.


      By focusing in the MSM and social media on attacking and discrediting the scientists, scholars, pilots, architects, and engineers of the 9/11 Truth movement, the U.S. and Israeli governments have effectively created a paradigm/mindset that prevents most people from ever perceiving and studying the actual scientific and forensic data.

      Nowhere in our mainstream media do we ever see articles or honest appraisals of the true nature and findings of the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth-- including the recent university study debunking the fraudulent U.S. government (NIST) 9/11 narrative.

      Ask yourselves why.  Why the total media black out of science?

      Examine firsthand the identity and research findings of these conscientious scientists and engineers.



www.ae911truth.org/evidence/evidence-overview

[Walter]

Unfortunately for them, other A&E pros out there have read their nonsense and branded it so.
Even I spent a weekend afternoon reading some of it and quickly noticed glaring holes in their conclusions.
But hey, don't let that get in the way of a good conspiracy.
Heck, since the 9/11A&E crew are such experts, perhaps they should branch out into election software conspiracy. After all, it 's the same Deep State characters running that scam as well, so they are already familiar with the Deep State MO.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Feb 10, 2021 18:13:36 GMT -5 Walter said:

Unfortunately for them, other A&E pros out there have read their nonsense and branded it so.
Even I spent a weekend afternoon reading some of it and quickly noticed glaring holes in their conclusions.
But hey, don't let that get in the way of a good conspiracy.
Heck, since the 9/11A&E crew are such experts, perhaps they should branch out into election software conspiracy. After all, it 's the same Deep State characters running that scam as well, so they are already familiar with the Deep State MO.

Get a clue, fella.  Have you even looked at their professional CVs?

For years now, you've reflexively resorted to an erroneous argument that the thousands of highly-educated scientist, engineers, architects, professors, physicians, and pilots for 9/11 Truth are either kooks or involved in this for financial reasons-- clickbait, etc.

It's a ludicrous argument.  Think, for a moment.

What do professional people (myself included) have to gain from supporting the scientific evidence debunking the false Bush-Cheney/PNAC 9/11 narrative?

Nothing.  On the contrary, trying to educate the public about the fact that we were all duped by the U.S., Saudi, and Israeli governments on 9/11 is a thankless, glamor less task.

For some people, like professional pilot Phillip Marshall and demolitions expert Danny Jowenko, speaking out about 9/11 has even been fatal.

The scholars and scientists in the 9/11 Truth movement are chiefly motivated by one thing-- a commitment to educating the public about 9/11 truth.

It is a noble, moral mission.

So, no.  Your take on the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth is dead wrong-- utter nonsense.

[Walter]

Feb 10, 2021 21:33:42 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Feb 10, 2021 18:13:36 GMT -5 Walter said:

Unfortunately for them, other A&E pros out there have read their nonsense and branded it so.
Even I spent a weekend afternoon reading some of it and quickly noticed glaring holes in their conclusions.
But hey, don't let that get in the way of a good conspiracy.
Heck, since the 9/11A&E crew are such experts, perhaps they should branch out into election software conspiracy. After all, it 's the same Deep State characters running that scam as well, so they are already familiar with the Deep State MO.

Get a clue, fella.  Have you even looked at their professional CVs?

For years now, you've reflexively resorted to an erroneous argument that the thousands of highly-educated scientist, engineers, architects, professors, physicians, and pilots for 9/11 Truth are either kooks or involved in this for financial reasons-- clickbait, etc.

It's a ludicrous argument.  Think, for a moment.

What do professional people (myself included) have to gain from supporting the scientific evidence debunking the false Bush-Cheney/PNAC 9/11 narrative?

Nothing.  On the contrary, trying to educate the public about the fact that we were all duped by the U.S., Saudi, and Israeli governments on 9/11 is a thankless, glamor less task.

For some people, like professional pilot Phillip Marshall and demolitions expert Danny Jowenko, speaking out about 9/11 has even been fatal.

The scholars and scientists in the 9/11 Truth movement are chiefly motivated by one thing-- a commitment to educating the public about 9/11 truth.

It is a noble, moral mission.

So, no.  Your take on the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth is dead wrong-- utter nonsense.

I have challenged you to show us where parts of NIST have been debunked; you wave CVs around and then post a piece of nonsensical pseudo-engineering that you don't understand enough to know is nonsense; eventually you bail with a non-sequitor "Yeah, but what about..." or two, and we start over.
That is precisely what Fred and Kaz do with their election fraud bullshit.
That you and they cannot see the parallels in the two circular conspiracy arguments is, at best, amusing.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Feb 11, 2021 10:42:56 GMT -5 Walter said:

Feb 10, 2021 21:33:42 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Get a clue, fella.  Have you even looked at their professional CVs?

For years now, you've reflexively resorted to an erroneous argument that the thousands of highly-educated scientist, engineers, architects, professors, physicians, and pilots for 9/11 Truth are either kooks or involved in this for financial reasons-- clickbait, etc.

It's a ludicrous argument.  Think, for a moment.

What do professional people (myself included) have to gain from supporting the scientific evidence debunking the false Bush-Cheney/PNAC 9/11 narrative?

Nothing.  On the contrary, trying to educate the public about the fact that we were all duped by the U.S., Saudi, and Israeli governments on 9/11 is a thankless, glamor less task.

For some people, like professional pilot Phillip Marshall and demolitions expert Danny Jowenko, speaking out about 9/11 has even been fatal.

The scholars and scientists in the 9/11 Truth movement are chiefly motivated by one thing-- a commitment to educating the public about 9/11 truth.

It is a noble, moral mission.

So, no.  Your take on the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth is dead wrong-- utter nonsense.

I have challenged you to show us where parts of NIST have been debunked; you wave CVs around and then post a piece of nonsensical pseudo-engineering that you don't understand enough to know is nonsense; eventually you bail with a non-sequitor "Yeah, but what about..." or two, and we start over.
That is precisely what Fred and Kaz do with their election fraud bullshit.
That you and they cannot see the parallels in the two circular conspiracy arguments is, at best, amusing.

Walter,

    Huh?  I have, repeatedly, posted scholarly debunking of the NIST computer "simulation," by Hoffman and others.

    Here are some specifics...

1)   The NIST computer "simulation" never even pretended to explain the observed abrupt, symmetrical, total, free fall collapse of WTC7.  (see video below)

       All they did was concoct a fraudulent computer "simulation" which claimed to model an alleged "pile driver" initiation of an upper floor collapse onto a lower floor.

       But anyone with an IQ above 120 can tell that their phony "pile driver" computer simulation doesn't even begin to explain the abrupt free fall collapse of the entire 47 floor steel structure!

       What abruptly demolished the lower steel sub-structures?

       The buildings were NOT... NOT... brought down by a pancaking collapse of upper floors onto lower floors!  Look at the video (below.)  The distance between floors remains constant as the entire building collapses!  Put on your glasses and your thinking cap, dude!

2)   The NIST computer simulation is an example of what a computer-programmer friend of mine used to jokingly call the "modified output technique."

       The NIST fraudsters working for the Bush-Cheney/PNAC team played around with a bunch of ridiculously unrealistic parameters until their computer "simulation" achieved something vaguely resembling the observed demolitions of the buildings.

       THAT'S WHY THE NIST REFUSED TO PUBLISH THE PARAMETERS THEY USED FOR THEIR COMPUTER "SIMULATION!" 

       If they published the parameters, everyone would know that their model was ludicrous.

[AlaCowboy]

Feb 11, 2021 10:42:56 GMT -5 Walter said:

Feb 10, 2021 21:33:42 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Get a clue, fella.  Have you even looked at their professional CVs?

For years now, you've reflexively resorted to an erroneous argument that the thousands of highly-educated scientist, engineers, architects, professors, physicians, and pilots for 9/11 Truth are either kooks or involved in this for financial reasons-- clickbait, etc.

It's a ludicrous argument.  Think, for a moment.

What do professional people (myself included) have to gain from supporting the scientific evidence debunking the false Bush-Cheney/PNAC 9/11 narrative?

Nothing.  On the contrary, trying to educate the public about the fact that we were all duped by the U.S., Saudi, and Israeli governments on 9/11 is a thankless, glamor less task.

For some people, like professional pilot Phillip Marshall and demolitions expert Danny Jowenko, speaking out about 9/11 has even been fatal.

The scholars and scientists in the 9/11 Truth movement are chiefly motivated by one thing-- a commitment to educating the public about 9/11 truth.

It is a noble, moral mission.

So, no.  Your take on the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth is dead wrong-- utter nonsense.

I have challenged you to show us where parts of NIST have been debunked; you wave CVs around and then post a piece of nonsensical pseudo-engineering that you don't understand enough to know is nonsense; eventually you bail with a non-sequitor "Yeah, but what about..." or two, and we start over.
That is precisely what Fred and Kaz do with their election fraud bullshit.
That you and they cannot see the parallels in the two circular conspiracy arguments is, at best, amusing.

Live eye witness testimony accompanied by video would convince some people. Why doesn't The FDFD supply that to us?