The Logical Characteristics of Valid Theories

[Walter]

Feb 13, 2021 13:21:10 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Feb 13, 2021 12:59:19 GMT -5 Walter said:

Where are the flight crews of the 4 planes?

Let's assume that they're dead.

Now, explain who placed the steel-melting, concrete-pulverizing explosives in Larry Silverstein's WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7 skyscrapers prior to 9/11.

Your answer goes here:____________________________________________________________________________________.

Then explain why Dominick Suter's five Mossad agents were caught filming and celebrating the WTC demolitions.

And why the FBI secretly released them to Israel.

And why the MSM blacked out that story for 19 years.

And why the alleged Barbara Olson phone calls from flight AA77 never happened.

And why the USAF failed to intercept the hijacked flights according to established protocols.

And why none of the alleged Muslim "hijackers" were listed on flight manifests or seen on airport CCTV video cams (yet, their passports miraculously survived the plane crashes!)

Ready, go!

Hold up.
We are taking this methodically.
If we are to assume the fight crew is dead, shall we also stipulate that all the passengers on each of the four planes, and yes, that includes Ms. Olson, are dead as well?

[DrSchadenfreude]

Feb 13, 2021 13:50:47 GMT -5 Walter said:

Feb 13, 2021 13:21:10 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Let's assume that they're dead.

Now, explain who placed the steel-melting, concrete-pulverizing explosives in Larry Silverstein's WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7 skyscrapers prior to 9/11.

Your answer goes here:____________________________________________________________________________________.

Then explain why Dominick Suter's five Mossad agents were caught filming and celebrating the WTC demolitions.

And why the FBI secretly released them to Israel.

And why the MSM blacked out that story for 19 years.

And why the alleged Barbara Olson phone calls from flight AA77 never happened.

And why the USAF failed to intercept the hijacked flights according to established protocols.

And why none of the alleged Muslim "hijackers" were listed on flight manifests or seen on airport CCTV video cams (yet, their passports miraculously survived the plane crashes!)

Ready, go!

Hold up.
We are taking this methodically.
If we are to assume the fight crew is dead, shall we also stipulate that all the passengers on each of the four planes, and yes, that includes Ms. Olson, are dead as well?

Not necessarily.  We know the Barbara Olson phone calls from AA77 never happened, right?  That was a fictional Bush-Cheney narrative promoted in the M$M.

Meanwhile, you're still not even to first base in explaining 9/11-- yet you are trying to get to third base, regarding details of the PNAC 9/11 op which have been shrouded in secrecy.

SO... Answer my original questions debunking the Bush-Cheney 9/11 narrative -- the core issue of this thread-- which you have ducked for years.

Who planted the explosives in Silverstein's WTC skyscrapers prior to the 9/11 demolitions?  And why?

To get to first base, you must first acknowledge the definitive evidence proving that your Bush-Cheney-Zelikow 9/11 conspiracy theory about Osama Bin Laden and 19 Muslim hijackers is bunk.

[Walter]

Feb 13, 2021 14:24:13 GMT -5 DrSchadenfreude said:

Feb 13, 2021 13:50:47 GMT -5 Walter said:

Hold up.
We are taking this methodically.
If we are to assume the fight crew is dead, shall we also stipulate that all the passengers on each of the four planes, and yes, that includes Ms. Olson, are dead as well?

Not necessarily.  We know the Barbara Olson phone calls from AA77 never happened, right?  That was a fictional Bush-Cheney narrative promoted in the M$M.

Meanwhile, you're still not even to first base in explaining 9/11-- yet you are trying to get to third base, regarding details of the PNAC 9/11 op which have been shrouded in secrecy.

SO... Answer my original questions debunking the Bush-Cheney 9/11 narrative -- the core issue of this thread-- which you have ducked for years.

Who planted the explosives in Silverstein's WTC skyscrapers prior to the 9/11 demolitions?  And why?

To get to first base, you must first acknowledge the definitive evidence proving that your Bush-Cheney-Zelikow 9/11 conspiracy theory about Osama Bin Laden and 19 Muslim hijackers is bunk.

To leave open the door that the passengers are not dead but the flight crew is dead, you would need to conclude that the passengers either never boarded the flight, or they landed and deplaned the passengers and then took off again.
And that raises the question: then where are the passengers?
Any ideas?

[DrSchadenfreude]

How did a precise, explicitly crafted, analytic thread about the invalidity of the official Bush-Cheney-Zelikow 9/11 conspiracy turn into yet another hijacked Wally World thread about the 9/11 passenger manifests and wreckage?

That takes a special kind of stupid.

Here's the thesis of this thread...

The official Bush-Cheney-Zelikow Osama Bin Laden conspiracy theory about 9/11 is false.  Period.

Larry Silverstein's newly-leased WTC skyscrapers were professionally demolished on 9/11 by pre-planted explosives.

Silverstein -- a close personal friend of Bibi Netanyahu, and long-time fund-raiser for Israel--collected $4.5 billion in insurance on his $15 million dollar August 2001 down payment to the Port Authority for the WTC leases.

Billions in put options were placed on United and American Airlines stock by CIA Comptroller Buzz Krongard's Alex Brown Investment Bank before 9/11.

Five Mossad agents (who worked for Mossad agent Dominick Suter's Urban Moving Systems company in Weehawken, N.J. ) were arrested at the Holland Tunnel on 9/11 after witnesses saw them filming and celebrating the WTC demolitions.  Suter conveniently fled to Israel before he could be questioned by the FBI.

The five Mossad agents were secretly released by the FBI to Israel, and the story was completely blacked out of the U.S. mainstream media for the past 19 and 1/2 years.

Saudi Prince Bandar "Bush"-- a close friend of the Bush family--- and the Saudi government directly funded the U.S. lodging and training of multiple alleged 9/11 hijackers in 2001. 

The FBI found no evidence linking Osama Bin Laden to the 9/11 op, nor was there any airport CCTV video or flight manifest evidence that the alleged hijackers boarded any airplanes in Boston, Newark, or D.C. (Dulles) on 9/11.

Alternate Theory:  9/11 was a U.S./Saudi/Israeli false flag op used as a pretext to launch the Bush-Cheney/PNAC wars n Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria.  The U.S. architects of 9/11 were Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and their PNAC associates.

Cui bono?  Who benefited from 9/11?

Answer:  Halliburton, and other U.S. oil and military corporations, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, and Israel.

[AlaCowboy]

The world renowned psychiatrist Dr. W. E. (name retracted) should go to Washington and demand an audience with President Biden. He could present his evidence and demand a federal investigation into The Bush/Cheney 9/11 Conspiracy. That will ease the minds of the millions of Americans that have been duped by this Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (where have I heard that before?).

[AlaCowboy]

Feb 14, 2021 10:37:35 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

The world renowned psychiatrist Dr. W. E. (name retracted) should go to Washington and demand an audience with President Biden. He could present his evidence and demand a federal investigation into The Bush/Cheney 9/11 Conspiracy. That will ease the minds of the millions of Americans that have been duped by this Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (where have I heard that before?).

I just reread my post and thought what that conversation between Biden and Billy N. would be like.

[DrSchadenfreude]

Feb 14, 2021 10:37:35 GMT -5 AlaCowboy said:

The world renowned psychiatrist Dr. W. E. (name retracted) should go to Washington and demand an audience with President Biden. He could present his evidence and demand a federal investigation into The Bush/Cheney 9/11 Conspiracy. That will ease the minds of the millions of Americans that have been duped by this Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (where have I heard that before?).

 
    Yo, Ra mey, the last POTUS who really tried to re-assert civilian control over the U.S. military-industrial complex and put the kibosh on CIA and Joint Chiefs military ops died on 11/22/63.

    Obama simply turned covert military matters over to Bush and Cheney's post-Rumsfeld CIA man at the Pentagon, Robert Gates.

    I have to give Donald Trump some credit for pulling the plug on CIA Operation Timber Sycamore in Syria in 2017.

    Meanwhile, if you're really interested in the aviation issues on 9/11, try reading a book on that subject by a former CIA (and commercial airline) pilot named Phillip Marshall.

    (As a footnote, Marshall was murdered in his California home shortly after he published his 2012 book about 9/11, The Big Bamboozle.)


www.amazon.com/Big-Bamboozle-11-War-Terror-ebook/dp/B007NZRLO8/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1OPU05WGZ60GY&dchild=1&keywords=the+big+bamboozle&qid=1613333736&s=books&sprefix=The+Big+Bamboozle%2Caps%2C180&sr=1-2


P.S.  In 2012, Marshall didn't seem to know anything about the remote-piloting technology for Boeings that had been successfully tested in Arizona by the summer of 2001.  But he had a lot of insight into FAA protocols and procedures relevant for 9/11.