Fully vaccinated man gets covid

[Walter]

Jun 27, 2021 12:37:56 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

Jun 27, 2021 12:31:15 GMT -5 cbisbig said:

Plenty of those around here, have you seen my discussion with one on the pro football board

If you're not a leftist robot like he is, everything you say will be opposed, twisted, and quarterbacked.

Yeah, asking you to back up what you post does get tiresome, especially when it is wrong.
The latest?

"According to the CDC data for every 100,000 young people vaccinated 700 will require medical care and 200 will be hospitalized."

Your own post cited only 4000+ hospitalizations TOTAL of all people vaxed. So since more than 2 million kids have been vaxed already, the 200/100k numbers don't work.
So post the CDC stat of 200 hospitalizations per 100k doses.

[Panama pfRedd]

Jun 27, 2021 12:31:15 GMT -5 cbisbig said:

Jun 27, 2021 12:29:25 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

I know you're convinced. I would just rather respond to you than a crazy person.

Plenty of those around here, have you seen my discussion with one on the pro football board

What's lost in all of this is the following two factors: One, young people are almost diametrically opposed to doing any critical thinking regarding this topic most likely due to the fear sowed by everyone in charge for the last year plus. And two, related to one, young people are indoctrinated in a school system that teaches them to be fully obedient to doing whatever the government decrees. We older folks who think our way through life instead of reacting emotionally to it are in a small minority at this point.

This point needs emphasis because it affects everything that is happening in this country.

Public schools are socialist, by definition. So... they teach socialism.
It is the primary responsibility of PARENTS to educate children.
If you leave it to government and government schools, you will get little compliant socialists.

[cbisbig]

Jun 27, 2021 13:49:07 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

Jun 27, 2021 12:31:15 GMT -5 cbisbig said:

Plenty of those around here, have you seen my discussion with one on the pro football board

What's lost in all of this is the following two factors: One, young people are almost diametrically opposed to doing any critical thinking regarding this topic most likely due to the fear sowed by everyone in charge for the last year plus. And two, related to one, young people are indoctrinated in a school system that teaches them to be fully obedient to doing whatever the government decrees. We older folks who think our way through life instead of reacting emotionally to it are in a small minority at this point.

This point needs emphasis because it affects everything that is happening in this country.

Public schools are socialist, by definition. So... they teach socialism.
It is the primary responsibility of PARENTS to educate children.

We homeschooled past the 8th grade, there was too much drama in the hs ( i hate to say it but primarily from black kids, one threatened to kill my daughter) for our daughter She turned out just fine

[Panama pfRedd]

Jun 27, 2021 13:52:45 GMT -5 cbisbig said:

Jun 27, 2021 13:49:07 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

What's lost in all of this is the following two factors: One, young people are almost diametrically opposed to doing any critical thinking regarding this topic most likely due to the fear sowed by everyone in charge for the last year plus. And two, related to one, young people are indoctrinated in a school system that teaches them to be fully obedient to doing whatever the government decrees. We older folks who think our way through life instead of reacting emotionally to it are in a small minority at this point.

This point needs emphasis because it affects everything that is happening in this country.

Public schools are socialist, by definition. So... they teach socialism.
It is the primary responsibility of PARENTS to educate children.

We homeschooled past the 8th grade, there was too much drama in the hs ( i hate to say it but primarily from black kids, one threatened to kill my daughter) for our daughter She turned out just fine

Nothing like that here but my daughter's high school is around 45% Hispanic. This is the same school I attended '72-'75. I honestly don't remember ANY Hispanics when I went there. I'll have to get out my yearbooks and check that. Only one other high school on town (out of 5) has fewer Hispanics at 37%. The one with the most is over 90%.

[Panama pfRedd]

Regarding Ivermectin.... This is truly how stupid people are today. Got in a bit of a debate with a friend's wife (he loves it when I smack her around verbally as he's too big a wimp to stand up to her). To set the table, she's a flaming Dem and Kamala lover. Anyway, I was suggesting we should be using Ivermectin to help prevent Covid spread instead of these experimental vaccines. She suggested she'd never use some unknown drug someone on the internet suggested. I asked her if she hates her dog (a Lhasa Apso lap dog she adores and dotes on). She was offended and triggered by my suggestion. I recommended she read the back of the heartworm medication package she was giving 'precious' monthly when she got home. My friend later told me she was shocked to find Ivermectin on that packaging as the primary drug. He also mentioned she was of course really pissed at me when she discovered this reality.

Yes, Dorothy, mentally ill morons do walk among us.

1 liter of Ivermectin at Tractor Supply last fall was $20.
That same exact product is now $43 at Tractor Supply.

The packaging last year said "pharmaceutical grade". The new packaging now says "for animal use only". Yeah - because you manufacture the animal version in a completely different factory than the human use version.

It's difficult finding a definitive dose-per-bodyweight and frequency chart.

Source doc here:
www.evms.edu/media/evm...OVID-19_Protocol.pdf

I have a lot of respect for Dr Marik. Diagram on second page identifies mg/kg and number of doses

The FLCCC website should be up-to-date:
covid19criticalcare.com/

Pierre Kory is part of the team. He has testified before the Senate at least twice, and been interviewed on podcasts and other forums.
That this is being suppressed the way it has been is nothing short of criminal in my mind. It's good to have Ivermectin on hand (in two veterinary forms) in case anyone gets symptoms. Still can't get a doctor I know to prescribe it. Most don't even know what it is. That is mind-boggling to me; it doesn't take much digging to learn about it.

[Panama pfRedd]

[Walter]

Jun 28, 2021 10:22:30 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

Regarding Ivermectin.... This is truly how stupid people are today. Got in a bit of a debate with a friend's wife (he loves it when I smack her around verbally as he's too big a wimp to stand up to her). To set the table, she's a flaming Dem and Kamala lover. Anyway, I was suggesting we should be using Ivermectin to help prevent Covid spread instead of these experimental vaccines. She suggested she'd never use some unknown drug someone on the internet suggested. I asked her if she hates her dog (a Lhasa Apso lap dog she adores and dotes on). She was offended and triggered by my suggestion. I recommended she read the back of the heartworm medication package she was giving 'precious' monthly when she got home. My friend later told me she was shocked to find Ivermectin on that packaging as the primary drug. He also mentioned she was of course really pissed at me when she discovered this reality.

Yes, Dorothy, mentally ill morons do walk among us.

1 liter of Ivermectin at Tractor Supply last fall was $20.
That same exact product is now $43 at Tractor Supply.

The packaging last year said "pharmaceutical grade". The new packaging now says "for animal use only". Yeah - because you manufacture the animal version in a completely different factory than the human use version.

It's difficult finding a definitive dose-per-bodyweight and frequency chart.

Source doc here:
www.evms.edu/media/evm...OVID-19_Protocol.pdf

I have a lot of respect for Dr Marik. Diagram on second page identifies mg/kg and number of doses

The FLCCC website should be up-to-date:
covid19criticalcare.com/

Pierre Kory is part of the team. He has testified before the Senate at least twice, and been interviewed on podcasts and other forums.
That this is being suppressed the way it has been is nothing short of criminal in my mind. It's good to have Ivermectin on hand (in two veterinary forms) in case anyone gets symptoms. Still can't get a doctor I know to prescribe it. Most don't even know what it is. That is mind-boggling to me; it doesn't take much digging to learn about it.

Glad to hear you are confident that heartworm medicine for dogs is a valid prophylactic against Covid because someone on the internet says so.
Good luck with that.

SMH....

[Panama pfRedd]

^^^^^ Yes, Dorothy, mentally ill morons who ignore information and shake their heads do walk among us.

[Walter]

Jun 28, 2021 10:33:02 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

^^^^^ Yes, Dorothy, mentally ill morons who ignore information and shake their heads do walk among us.

Hey, Dottie! Did you miss the FDA memo citing lack of dosing research and testing and wildly inaccurate and variable quantities of the active ingredient in OTC available products, leading to instances of organ failure?
Oh, but guy-on-the-internet says it's all a dastardly plot by the Deep State and Big Pharma.
Again...good luck with that.

[Panama pfRedd]

Jun 27, 2021 13:52:45 GMT -5 cbisbig said:

Jun 27, 2021 13:49:07 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

What's lost in all of this is the following two factors: One, young people are almost diametrically opposed to doing any critical thinking regarding this topic most likely due to the fear sowed by everyone in charge for the last year plus. And two, related to one, young people are indoctrinated in a school system that teaches them to be fully obedient to doing whatever the government decrees. We older folks who think our way through life instead of reacting emotionally to it are in a small minority at this point.

This point needs emphasis because it affects everything that is happening in this country.

Public schools are socialist, by definition. So... they teach socialism.
It is the primary responsibility of PARENTS to educate children.

We homeschooled past the 8th grade, there was too much drama in the hs ( i hate to say it but primarily from black kids, one threatened to kill my daughter) for our daughter She turned out just fine

Holy shit. These people are vile.

The Make-A-Wish Foundation just announced that they will not be granting wishes to any children who are not fully vaccinated. Their families and siblings have to be fully vaccinated as well.

Yeah, that was a mistake. I realize all leftists are identical at their core. Their religion (their political beliefs) comes first always, but, it was a big mistake for them to show their ass like this in that realm.

As I've said before, I wish these people long life. I want them to be on this rock for decades, so that the time will finally come that society again begins to allow the truth to be spoken. If there's any honesty left in the human race, the day will come when the actions of these utterly insane people are widely condemned, and I want every last one of these destroyers of society to be here to receive all of it.

According to these hacks: www.newsweek.com/make-wish-flip-flops-wont-require-terminally-ill-kids-vaccinated-1604561?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3sCD-bHlaLVIIgi_3SdubkbIMaTpHkYSFnMPMfuLiCkFBjS07s7smNVAw#Echobox=1624854747 , the Braniacs at MAWF have reversed their decision.

Gee, who could have seen that coming? Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. Great job.

Too late, though. The damage is done.

[Panama pfRedd]

What is that old saying? Oh yeah!

Make a wish in one hand and shit in the other. See which one gets filled faster?

Well Mr. Make a Wish, put out your hand. I have something for ya! Ya ASSHOLE!.


I want these assholes to be around a long ass time. Because shit like this will always come back around and make you eat your words.

This quote from Hemmingway is appropriate for this douche nozzle. He puts it a lot nicer than I can.

"The world breaks everyone and afterward many are strong in the broken places. But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good and the very gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be sure it will kill you too, but there will be no special hurry." -Hemingway

[Walter]

Jun 28, 2021 14:31:13 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

What is that old saying? Oh yeah!

Make a wish in one hand and shit in the other. See which one gets filled faster?

Well Mr. Make a Wish, put out your hand. I have something for ya! Ya ASSHOLE!.


I want these assholes to be around a long ass time. Because shit like this will always come back around and make you eat your words.

This quote from Hemmingway is appropriate for this douche nozzle. He puts it a lot nicer than I can.

"The world breaks everyone and afterward many are strong in the broken places. But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good and the very gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be sure it will kill you too, but there will be no special hurry." -Hemingway

You are so right. They should listen to the right wing kooks like you, cuz making a wish happen for a kid that ends up killing someone is always a good strategy for success.

[Panama pfRedd]

May 10, 2021 13:16:05 GMT -5 cbisbig said:

I’m sure we will see more and more side effects from the hastily rushed to use vaccines

www.aol.com/sports/warriors-forward-damion-lee-despite-032701519.html

There’s an article on OANN re: a senator who is trying to raise awareness of adverse effects of the vaccine.

There is a quote from one mother whose daughter seems seriously affected:


…
After being part of a Covid vaccine trial for 12-15 year-olds, Maddie has been to the ER 9 times and hospitalized 3 times for a total of 2 months.
…
“We are pro-vaccine and pro-science, which is why we agreed to let Maddie and her two older brothers volunteer for the trial,” one mother expressed. “Before Maddie got her final dose of the vaccine she was a healthy 12-year-old… She had a life. She was energetic. She was not like this.”


Why are they pro-vaccine? For a 12 year old? By what measure are they pro-science given they are pro-vaccine and allowed their preteen to get the vaccine? How could they let their 12 year old decide to volunteer - a 12 year old is not capable of making an informed decision and calculated risk here? Or if they made the decision for her, then wow.

I feel sorry for the daughter. Very tragic outcome and I hope she fully recovers. I can’t say in words how I feel about the mom.

[Panama pfRedd]

Employers may require you to Just take the jab...
But you're on your own if you have any adverse side effects:


Employers Are No Longer Required by OSHA to Record Worker Side Effects from COVID Vaccine

Yesterday, Human Events News did a report on vaccine injuries and how some are turning to the crowdfunding site GoFundMe to raise money to assist in replacing lost income caused by the vaccine.

In the article, we cited Dr. Janelle Routhier, former executive within the pharmaceutical and medical device industries with experience in clinical trials, research & development, and marketing. She speculated that many people may be forced to crowdfunding sites owing to vaccine injuries not being covered under conventional workman’s compensation insurance.

Separately yesterday, it was reported that the Occupational Safety and Health Administration’s new guidance states that they will not enforce requiring any employers to record worker side effects from the vaccine.

According to the Horton Group, prior OSHA guidance indicated that employers were required to record an employee’s reaction to a vaccine if it was work related, a new case, and met one or more of the agency’s general recording criteria.

The new guidance says the following:

Are adverse reactions to the COVID-19 vaccine recordable on the OSHA recordkeeping log?
The DOL and OSHA, as well as other federal agencies, are working diligently to encourage COVID-19 vaccinations. OSHA does not wish to have any appearance of discouraging workers from receiving COVID-19 vaccination, and also does not wish to disincentivize employers’ vaccination efforts. As a result, OSHA will not enforce 29 CFR 1904’s recording requirements to require any employers to record worker side effects from COVID-19 vaccination through May 2022. We will re-evaluate the agency’s position at that time to determine the best course of action moving forward.

Employers can rely on the statement that the recording requirement will not be enforced through May 2022.

humanevents.com/2021/06/29/employers-are-no-longer-required-by-osha-to-record-worker-side-effects-from-covid-vaccine/

Meanwhile...
Sharyl Attkisson attempts to summarize adverse events around the world:

(UPDATED) Exclusive Summary: Covid-19 Vaccine Concerns

If you find yourself confused about the mixed guidance when it comes to Covid-19 vaccines and safety concerns, you’re not alone.

While the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) is marketing widespread use of the emergency-use vaccines in the U.S. for both old and young alike, many other countries are limiting Covid-19 vaccine use. Health officials around the world are giving varying advice on safety issues as Covid-19 vaccines are given to more people, and more information can be collected.

sharylattkisson.com/2021/06/exclusive-summary-covid-19-vaccine-concerns/
Dated: June 30, 2021 by Sharyl Attkisson





Meanwhile, I'll just continue working remotely from now on if my employers (who are all conservatives, amazing in CA, huh? Yes, there are plenty of us here...) decide only poked idiots will be allowed back in the office. I'm still working remotely and will do so in a year when we move out of state. The plan is to retire in '27 so I can collect max SS bennies, if SS even exists after dem squandering of the national treasure and crashing the world economy. At least the house is paid off and no debt to speak of, and gold going through the roof in such a scenario.

[Panama pfRedd]

Re: Democrats will try to use the Delta variant to do lockdowns again: Saw a news item on OAN that claimed Creepy Uncle Joe has already raised that possibility.

In other news: Remember the claims the experimental vaccines would be effective against the Delta variant--and possibly other variants? Well, it seems they're beginning to back-pedal on that one.

BOHICA - just as we knew it would.