good news regarding the vaccine

[Panama pfRedd]

Dec 9, 2021 10:20:51 GMT -5 Walter said:

Dec 9, 2021 9:50:51 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

What happened to your back that it needed surgery?

Cancer ate a vertebrae and it collapsed.
I had surgery to cut out as much tumor as they could get at and then they installed a titanium bridge across the gap and started chemo.
And THAT was considered 'elective', like it was a nose job or something.

Damn... Really sorry to hear that. Successful outcome and regained mobility?

[Buckeye Dale]

The only good news for me would be that this horse crap has been discontinued...
At LEAST until final testing was conducted.

[Walter]

Dec 9, 2021 10:28:57 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

Dec 9, 2021 10:20:51 GMT -5 Walter said:

Cancer ate a vertebrae and it collapsed.
I had surgery to cut out as much tumor as they could get at and then they installed a titanium bridge across the gap and started chemo.
And THAT was considered 'elective', like it was a nose job or something.

Damn... Really sorry to hear that. Successful outcome and regained mobility?

Partially. I am a lot better, but there are some permanent neuropathy issues, so I'll never do some of the things I used to do.
I went on my first hike since surgery last summer; a test of just 6 miles and less than 2000 vertical, and even with frequent stops I was complete toast by the end, so I've go a ways to go.

[Panama pfRedd]

Dec 9, 2021 11:17:56 GMT -5 Walter said:

Dec 9, 2021 10:28:57 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

Damn... Really sorry to hear that. Successful outcome and regained mobility?

Partially. I am a lot better, but there are some permanent neuropathy issues, so I'll never do some of the things I used to do.
I went on my first hike since surgery last summer; a test of just 6 miles and less than 2000 vertical, and even with frequent stops I was complete toast by the end, so I've go a ways to go.

Well at least it didn't effect your brain... oh wait!

[dilligaf]

Dec 9, 2021 8:19:28 GMT -5 Walter said:

Dec 9, 2021 0:28:10 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

I got under the wire by two days last year for my back surgery. Even though I could barely walk even with a walker, my surgery was deemed 'elective'.
Elective surgeries were stopped two days after mine, because the hospital ran out of beds due to Covid. And an elective surgery is any surgery that isn't a life/death emergency.
So Chicken Little, in this case, gets it right.

Can't read, can you?

Where did I mention elective surgeries?  And I know EXACTLY what they are, Dr. DoNothing.

I was referring to other lief-threatening conditions.

Damn, you lieberals are DENSE.

[dilligaf]

Dec 9, 2021 9:19:29 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

Can the insanity ever find bottom?

In Germany, You Must Be Fully Vaxxed Vaccinated before Your Death by Assisted Suicide


The ironies of assisted suicide never end. Germany allows suicide on demand — including assistance — as a fundamental constitutional right. But now, you must be vaccinated against COVID before a euthanasia group will help you kill yourself. From the Spectator story:

As European countries battle to limit the spread of the virus, Verein Sterbehilfe – the German Euthanasia Association – has issued a new directive, declaring it will now only help those who have been vaccinated or recovered from the disease. In a statement, the association said:

“Euthanasia and the preparatory examination of the voluntary responsibility of our members willing to die require human closeness. Human closeness, however, is a prerequisite and breeding ground for coronavirus transmission. As of today, the 2G rule applies in our association, supplemented by situation-related measures, such as quick tests before encounters in closed rooms.”

‘Close encounters in closed rooms’ – what a fabulous German euphemism for assisted suicide.

Sometimes words even escape me!

It makes as much sense as sterilizing the IV sites before lethal injection.

Are they afraid the soon-to-be-deceased will develop an infection?

[Panama pfRedd]

Dec 9, 2021 15:50:12 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Dec 9, 2021 9:19:29 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

Can the insanity ever find bottom?

In Germany, You Must Be Fully Vaxxed Vaccinated before Your Death by Assisted Suicide


The ironies of assisted suicide never end. Germany allows suicide on demand — including assistance — as a fundamental constitutional right. But now, you must be vaccinated against COVID before a euthanasia group will help you kill yourself. From the Spectator story:

As European countries battle to limit the spread of the virus, Verein Sterbehilfe – the German Euthanasia Association – has issued a new directive, declaring it will now only help those who have been vaccinated or recovered from the disease. In a statement, the association said:

“Euthanasia and the preparatory examination of the voluntary responsibility of our members willing to die require human closeness. Human closeness, however, is a prerequisite and breeding ground for coronavirus transmission. As of today, the 2G rule applies in our association, supplemented by situation-related measures, such as quick tests before encounters in closed rooms.”

‘Close encounters in closed rooms’ – what a fabulous German euphemism for assisted suicide.

Sometimes words even escape me!

It makes as much sense as sterilizing the IV sites before lethal injection.

Are they afraid the soon-to-be-deceased will develop an infection?

They want to control you and get money for it right up until the second you're dead.

[dilligaf]

Dec 9, 2021 15:51:31 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

Dec 9, 2021 15:50:12 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

It makes as much sense as sterilizing the IV sites before lethal injection.

Are they afraid the soon-to-be-deceased will develop an infection?

They want to control you and get money for it right up until the second you're dead.

Strapped down, unable to move anything but your eyeballs, is pretty much "controlled."
    

[Panama pfRedd]

Dec 9, 2021 15:58:54 GMT -5 dilligaf said:

Dec 9, 2021 15:51:31 GMT -5 Panama pfRedd said:

They want to control you and get money for it right up until the second you're dead.

Strapped down, unable to move anything but your eyeballs, is pretty much "controlled."
    

They don't DO any science at the NIH and CDC... they do PR for big Pharma.

Meanwhile... , the FDA approved booster shots for 16 and 17-year-olds this week. And the agency did it without having its vaccine committee make any recommendations or even meet to discuss the move. The CDC is expected to do the same thing and sidestep its own ACIP committee too. This avoids what would have been a significant discussion of myocarditis.

See folks, THIS is how you get things done. THIS is science. So stop complaining.

nypost.com/2021/12/08/nih-and-cdc-fail-on-omicron-as-they-have-throughout-pandemic/

NIH and CDC fail us on Omicron, as they have throughout the pandemic

By Marty Makary
December 8, 2021

Wednesday, nearly two weeks after news of Omicron ignited global panic, Pfizer announced its vaccine works against the variant but provided few details. Why couldn’t the National Institutes of Health or Centers for Disease Control mobilize any of their 7,000-plus scientists to answer this question rapidly and transparently as the world waited in limbo? What have our public-health leaders been doing?

They’ve been responding to Omicron with one simple message: We got this. They insist they’re following the new variant extremely closely. If so, why not immediately test antibodies from each of the vaccines against it, as well as antibodies from natural immunity? And where’s the real-time data dashboard of all known Omicron cases, including illness severity and whether the infected person was vaccinated, boosted or had previously had COVID. That would be a lot more useful than all the speculation.

The NIH has two of the nation’s highest-level virology labs, BSL-4 labs. They are part of the Biodefense Research Plan of Dr. Anthony Fauci’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. But if their current response time is any indication of how fast they’d respond in a real bioterrorism emergency, we’re in trouble.

The Omicron experiment the world has been waiting for is not exactly the Manhattan Project. It’s not solving the riddle of the Sphinx. It’s a simple lab experiment: test neutralizing antibodies induced by each vaccine against the new variant. Each experiment takes about four days, lab experts told me, and can be done in tandem. If the NIH and CDC were really on top of Omicron, they would have reported results for each of the vaccines by now. Instead, they deferred to Big Pharma.

While markets have been experiencing whiplash and businesses paused getting back to normal, our nation’s public-health officials are doing a lot of talking. They’ve been talking in White House briefings, on radio shows and television, eloquently explaining Omicron’s unknowns.

Friday, Fauci will give a distinguished lectureship for my alma mater, the Harvard School of Public Health, as New York City implements a universal vaccine mandate to pre-empt Omicron. Last week, Gov. Kathy Hochul halted some elective surgery in the state, citing Omicron’s unknowns. Surgeon colleagues I know throughout New York and Boston are beginning to ration surgical procedures. Much of this chaos could have been better managed with timelier laboratory and clinical data on Omicron.

Perhaps Fauci could have done fewer media interviews and university lectures this week and last and instead personally overseen an NIH Omicron-antibody-binding experiment. When a Texas nurse contracted Ebola in 2014, Fauci had her flown to the NIH clinical center (for no good reason), where he put on a space suit and visited her bedside. Dr. Fauci, the country needs you to put on your lab coat again.

We also need CDC chief Dr. Rochelle Walensky to create an Omicron case tracker, a Web site with real-time (not delayed) clinical information on case severity, hospitalization status (if any) and age and immune status. The NIH and CDC have more than 40,000 employees, supported by more than $50 billion in taxpayer funding. Surely someone can stop what he’s doing to help us get good data.

Throughout the pandemic, we’ve seen the turtle-speed bureaucracy of our public agencies consistently fail us. According to research my Johns Hopkins research team conducted, in 2020, the year the pandemic hit, the NIH pivoted just 5 percent of its $42 billion budget to COVID (less than half what it spent on aging research that year). More alarming was finding the average time for the NIH to hand off money to researchers was five months. The Food and Drug Administration is no speed-racer either. It sat in decision paralysis while looking into Johnson & Johnson vaccine complications — a prolonged pause that fueled vaccine hesitancy.

The CDC has not done much better. The original sin of the US COVID response was the CDC’s decision to not allow university and private labs to test patients, a policy it reversed months into the pandemic. Since then, the CDC has consistently put out tardy and incomplete data, missing key information on risk stratification, the role of obesity and a breakdown of child deaths by comorbidity as we imposed blanket restrictions on 72 million children. (Germany just reported that no healthy child 5 to 17 died of COVID — all deaths were in children with a comorbidity.) In fact, most of our COVID findings have come from Israel and scientists abroad.

GlaxoSmithKline and Vir Biotechnology recently found that their antibody product works against Omicron. That’s good news. But it raises the question: Why haven’t all pharma companies reported their results?

More than ever, we need the NIH and CDC to focus less on talking and more on what matters most: doing the science and being transparent with the public.

Marty Makary, MD, MPH, is a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine and author of the New York Times bestselling book “The Price We Pay.”

[dilligaf]

The only science I believe in right now is giving Dr. Falsi a lobotomy.

That motherfucker is nuts.

I don't understand.  Senile Sloppy Joe has gotten rid of everyone who worked under Trump.  WHY has he kept Falsi?