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Post by beuycek on Oct 21, 2022 9:55:59 GMT -5
Why 154? Why not 140 or 130? Way too many games that cause the season to extend way too far into the cold weather. My question was somewhat rhetorical as I know money is the driver of all decisions these days. My point is, if cutting the season back is meant to solve a problem, then actually make a meaningful cut. Cutting 8 games does nothing, IMO. |
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Post by daleko on Oct 21, 2022 9:57:14 GMT -5
I get what you're saying and baseball purists would agree with you___then you have fans like me that sees other sports including wild card teams in the playoffs that involves more fan bases. NFL, NBA NHL and college basketball with the at-large teams for the 64 team tourney. Oh, I get why MLB is doing what they're doing. From a structural perspective it at least gives more teams on the bubble a reason not to just throw up their hands and sell off the team in July. Perhaps the answer is as simple as making all teams play a 7 game series every step of the way. Just spitballin'...Maybe cut down the season back to 154 games and make the playoffs double elimination with winner and loser brackets. Stretch the playoffs out to an entire month of playoff baseball. This season, the NL loser brackets would be say...Dodgers/Braves and Mets/Cardinals, for another shot at the Padres and Phillies. Let's see if SD and Philly can hang.  |
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Post by daleko on Oct 21, 2022 9:58:41 GMT -5
Why 154? Why not 140 or 130? Way too many games that cause the season to extend way too far into the cold weather. And assuming the consequences include reduced players salaries, the UNion. |
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Post by daleko on Oct 21, 2022 10:01:37 GMT -5
Simple answer is to pay the bills. My question was somewhat rhetorical as I know money is the driver of all decisions these days. My point is, if cutting the season back is meant to solve a problem, then actually make a meaningful cut. Cutting 8 games does nothing, IMO. |
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Post by Walter on Oct 21, 2022 10:16:06 GMT -5
My question was somewhat rhetorical as I know money is the driver of all decisions these days. My point is, if cutting the season back is meant to solve a problem, then actually make a meaningful cut. Cutting 8 games does nothing, IMO. If you are going to cut the season that drastically, then expand the playoffs. End the regular season in September and then seed an 8 team per league playoff, all best of 7, a la NBA and NHL. |
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Post by Buckeye Dale on Oct 21, 2022 11:11:36 GMT -5
Why 154? Why not 140 or 130? Way too many games that cause the season to extend way too far into the cold weather. Exactly...the simple answer to ALL this is the chase of the almighty dollar. Not just paying the bills, but padding wallets. I see I posted an answer way too early... To HELL with ALL traditions...put the damned thing into a computer with all the variables everyone wants to throw in, and let the 'puters spell out the most PROFITABLE answer...screw the traditions, the fans, and the sport. "LET'S MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS WE POSSIBLE CAN!!!" |
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Post by Mickey34jb on Oct 21, 2022 18:25:31 GMT -5
Nobody wants a consolation bracket...winners move on, losers go home. I agree with trimming down to 154 games and each round be a best of 7....To do that, expand the roster for teams to add more arms for those 7 game series.... Why 154? Why not 140 or 130? Way too many games that cause the season to extend way too far into the cold weather. |
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Post by Walter on Oct 21, 2022 19:26:37 GMT -5
Why 154? Why not 140 or 130? Way too many games that cause the season to extend way too far into the cold weather. I'd guess that average spending at a Dodger game is roughly $75-80 per person. Heck, a ticket in the bleachers is still only about $15. Average attendance is about 48,000/game, so say, $80x48,000 = $3.83 million x 18 = roughly $70 million, gross. If you figure overhead is 50% (just guessing), that's $35 million they are leaving on the table. Not a lot of money, but not chickenfeed either. |
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Post by Mickey34jb on Oct 21, 2022 19:47:40 GMT -5
144 games were played in the 1995 season due to the strike that carried over from '94___The Tribe was 100-44. I didnt read about owners losing money so 18 games less might work I'd guess that average spending at a Dodger game is roughly $75-80 per person. Heck, a ticket in the bleachers is still only about $15. Average attendance is about 48,000/game, so say, $80x48,000 = $3.83 million x 18 = roughly $70 million, gross. If you figure overhead is 50% (just guessing), that's $35 million they are leaving on the table. Not a lot of money, but not chickenfeed either.
No way could it be 75-$80 person__Are they selling pot? A beer and a hot dog is $15. My wife got a diet pepsi and a hot pretzel is $13. |
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Post by beuycek on Oct 21, 2022 22:10:42 GMT -5
I'd guess that average spending at a Dodger game is roughly $75-80 per person. Heck, a ticket in the bleachers is still only about $15. Average attendance is about 48,000/game, so say, $80x48,000 = $3.83 million x 18 = roughly $70 million, gross. If you figure overhead is 50% (just guessing), that's $35 million they are leaving on the table. Not a lot of money, but not chickenfeed either.
No way could it be 75-$80 person__Are they selling pot? A beer and a hot dog is $15. My wife got a diet pepsi and a hot pretzel is $13.Um, a beer is $15, the hot dog will cost you another $8. 🙂 |
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Post by Mickey34jb on Oct 21, 2022 22:55:10 GMT -5
No way could it be 75-$80 person__Are they selling pot? A beer and a hot dog is $15. My wife got a diet pepsi and a hot pretzel is $13.Um, a beer is $15, the hot dog will cost you another $8. 🙂 $9 for a 12oz....$6 for the dog....the tall boy is $16....in August promotion a $15 ticket came with a free 12oz beer... remember this is Cleveland not NY or LA |
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Post by Walter on Oct 21, 2022 23:04:17 GMT -5
I'd guess that average spending at a Dodger game is roughly $75-80 per person. Heck, a ticket in the bleachers is still only about $15. Average attendance is about 48,000/game, so say, $80x48,000 = $3.83 million x 18 = roughly $70 million, gross. If you figure overhead is 50% (just guessing), that's $35 million they are leaving on the table. Not a lot of money, but not chickenfeed either.
No way could it be 75-$80 person__Are they selling pot? A beer and a hot dog is $15. My wife got a diet pepsi and a hot pretzel is $13.I'd guess that average ticket price is about $35, parking is another $25-30, so I figured split that for a couple. Now you're at around $50 and you haven't bought beer yet. $70-80 isn't out of reach. Note I don't know the real number. I'm just pulling it outta my butt based on my experience. But I've spent $80 at a game after that second beer and a $7 bag o' peanuts around the 5th inning, a program and a hat, or some such thing.. |
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Post by Walter on Oct 21, 2022 23:06:52 GMT -5
No way could it be 75-$80 person__Are they selling pot? A beer and a hot dog is $15. My wife got a diet pepsi and a hot pretzel is $13.I'd guess that average ticket price is about $35, parking is another $25-30, so I figured split that for a couple. Now you're at around $50 and you haven't bought beer yet. $70-80 isn't out of reach. Note I don't know the real number. I'm just pulling it outta my butt based on my experience. But I've spent $80 at a game after that second beer and a $7 bag o' peanuts around the 5th inning, a program and a hat, or some such thing.. You could certainly get out for a lot less. Sit in the bleachers and take the shuttle saves a ton o' money. |
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Post by Mickey34jb on Oct 21, 2022 23:18:17 GMT -5
I'd guess that average ticket price is about $35, parking is another $25-30, so I figured split that for a couple. Now you're at around $50 and you haven't bought beer yet. $70-80 isn't out of reach. Note I don't know the real number. I'm just pulling it outta my butt based on my experience. But I've spent $80 at a game after that second beer and a $7 bag o' peanuts around the 5th inning, a program and a hat, or some such thing.. You could certainly get out for a lot less. Sit in the bleachers and take the shuttle saves a ton o' money. Wow.I didn't figure parking and merchandise... simply I never buy gear inside the park and I park out further from the ball field to save $ |
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Post by AlaCowboy on Oct 22, 2022 8:52:25 GMT -5
Why 154? Why not 140 or 130? Way too many games that cause the season to extend way too far into the cold weather. |
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