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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 23, 2022 17:43:02 GMT -5
I have tried to explain that to Daleko for years.
Some "conspiracy theories" are kooky-- QAnon, moon landing, etc.
Some are historically accurate theories about military and intelligence black ops-- e.g., the JFK Assassination and 9/11 Truth movements.
The 9/11 Truth movement is comprised of accredited scientists, engineers, architects, and professors who have exposed the obvious holes in the Bush/Cheney/Zelikow 9/11 narrative.
Daleko still doesn't get it, and he keeps repeating the misleading CIA propaganda meme on the subject.
CIA contract journalists have repeated the meme endlessly in the mainstream media.
The CIA first began deploying the meme to ridicule of so-called "conspiracy theories" in the 1960s to discredit the research people who had begun to analyze and debunk the CIA's Warren Commission Report-- attorney Mark Lane, archivist Sylvia Meagher, and New Orleans DA Jim Garrison.
Today, every informed person knows that the Warren Commission critics-- the "conspiracy theorists"-- were correct.
The WCR has been thoroughly debunked.
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 23, 2022 18:35:24 GMT -5
Re-posting this for Fred.
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Post by oujour76 on Nov 23, 2022 19:12:53 GMT -5
I have tried to explain that to Daleko for years. Some "conspiracy theories" are kooky-- QAnon, moon landing, etc. Some are historically accurate theories about military and intelligence black ops-- e.g., the JFK Assassination and 9/11 Truth movements. The 9/11 Truth movement is comprised of accredited scientists, engineers, architects, and professors who have exposed the obvious holes in the Bush/Cheney/Zelikow 9/11 narrative. Daleko still doesn't get it, and he keeps repeating the misleading CIA propaganda meme on the subject. CIA contract journalists have repeated the meme endlessly in the mainstream media. The CIA first began deploying the meme to ridicule of so-called "conspiracy theories" in the 1960s to discredit the research people who had begun to analyze and debunk the CIA's Warren Commission Report-- attorney Mark Lane, archivist Sylvia Meagher, and New Orleans DA Jim Garrison. Today, every informed person knows that the Warren Commission critics-- the "conspiracy theorists"-- were correct. The WCR has been thoroughly debunked. Translation: “my” conspiracy theories are fact. “Yours” are fiction. And so it goes.
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 23, 2022 22:10:51 GMT -5
I have tried to explain that to Daleko for years. Some "conspiracy theories" are kooky-- QAnon, moon landing, etc. Some are historically accurate theories about military and intelligence black ops-- e.g., the JFK Assassination and 9/11 Truth movements. The 9/11 Truth movement is comprised of accredited scientists, engineers, architects, and professors who have exposed the obvious holes in the Bush/Cheney/Zelikow 9/11 narrative. Daleko still doesn't get it, and he keeps repeating the misleading CIA propaganda meme on the subject. CIA contract journalists have repeated the meme endlessly in the mainstream media. The CIA first began deploying the meme to ridicule of so-called "conspiracy theories" in the 1960s to discredit the research people who had begun to analyze and debunk the CIA's Warren Commission Report-- attorney Mark Lane, archivist Sylvia Meagher, and New Orleans DA Jim Garrison. Today, every informed person knows that the Warren Commission critics-- the "conspiracy theorists"-- were correct. The WCR has been thoroughly debunked. Translation: “my” conspiracy theories are fact. “Yours” are fiction. And so it goes. Get a clue, Harry. What is a theory, in the philosophy of science? A theory is a rational explanation of the facts. Do you and Daleko think that Newton and Einstein were "addicted to theories?" Ferdinand Braudel? Max Weber? People who are intellectually curious about any subject-- science, economics, history, crime, etc.-- will formulate explanatory theories. Next question. Do you and Daleko actually believe that people in military and intelligence agencies DON'T CONSPIRE to formulate and implement operations? Again, get a clue.
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Post by daleko on Nov 23, 2022 23:12:11 GMT -5
Translation: “my” conspiracy theories are fact. “Yours” are fiction. And so it goes. Get a clue, Harry. What is a theory, in the philosophy of science? A theory is a rational explanation of the facts. Do you and Daleko think that Newton and Einstein were "addicted to theories?" Ferdinand Braudel? Max Weber? People who are intellectually curious about any subject-- science, economics, history, crime, etc.-- will formulate explanatory theories. A theory is a rational explanation of the facts. Ambrose did you really type this w a straight face?
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 23, 2022 23:34:54 GMT -5
Get a clue, Harry. What is a theory, in the philosophy of science? A theory is a rational explanation of the facts. Do you and Daleko think that Newton and Einstein were "addicted to theories?" Ferdinand Braudel? Max Weber? People who are intellectually curious about any subject-- science, economics, history, crime, etc.-- will formulate explanatory theories. A theory is a rational explanation of the facts. Ambrose did you really type this w a straight face?Study some philosophy, dude. I can't believe you're dumb enough to continue believing that all conspiracy theories are the same--a monolith. In reality, some "conspiracy theories"-- about actual historical conspiracies-- are quite accurate. Are you dumb enough to think that intelligence agencies like the KGB, CIA, and Mossad don't "conspire" to conduct black ops? Do you think the CIA didn't "conspire" to kill Mossadeq and Allende, and remove Arbenz from office? How about the Mossad's King David Hotel bombing and Lavon affair? Put on your thinking cap and contemplate Swiss historian Daniele Ganser's accurate observation that, "All theories about 9/11 are conspiracy theories." See if you can finally figure that one out.
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Post by daleko on Nov 23, 2022 23:44:12 GMT -5
A theory is a rational explanation of the facts. Ambrose did you really type this w a straight face?Study some philosophy, dude. SO THEORIES ARE RATIONAL EXPLANATION OF FACTS. REALLY? THAT'S WHAT YOU TYPED.
In any case I'll wait for your next dance step
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 24, 2022 0:52:21 GMT -5
Daleko is too stupid to realize that conspiracy theories are not monolithic.
He got suckered by the CIA's old "conspiracy theory" propaganda trick in the media.
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Post by cbisbig on Nov 24, 2022 7:59:46 GMT -5
Daleko is too stupid to realize that conspiracy theories are not monolithic. He got suckered by the CIA's old "conspiracy theory" propaganda trick in the media. Who suckered you with this nonsense?
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Post by DrSchadenfreude on Nov 24, 2022 9:57:22 GMT -5
Daleko is too stupid to realize that conspiracy theories are not monolithic. He got suckered by the CIA's old "conspiracy theory" propaganda trick in the media. Who suckered you with this nonsense? You and Daleko need to pay attention to what I have posted for you here. Don't remain ignoramuses forever.
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